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IMPORTANT - New Channel Announcement (Voyager 2 Videos)
« on: April 15, 2017, 11:52:30 pm »

 
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 06:44:40 am »
As a space geek I would just like to say a big THANK YOU for this!
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 07:57:45 am »
As a space geek I would just like to say a big THANK YOU for this!

Thank Richard!
He stayed back after a 12 hour night shift to shoot this.
Couldn't get more footage as the powers that be wanted him to be able to drive home safely which is completely understandable.
 

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2017, 08:58:08 am »
Subscribed.
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Which is saying something, considering I only have one other subscription.
 

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2017, 08:59:22 am »
Can you do a video showing the microwave oven at the Parkes Observatory? http://www.wired.co.uk/article/microwave-parkes-observatory  :)
 

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Re: IMPORTANT - New Channel Announcement (Voyager 2 Videos)
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2017, 09:31:16 am »
just seen your  -Let's Find Out !  on YT.
Analog TV Transmission Facility Tour wow!  :-+ :-+ :-+
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what is the air filtration system used?  must be good after 30 years in that building.
not a single bit of dust or rust anywhere too be seen. looks like carpet on the floor too.  but its not!
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Re: IMPORTANT - New Channel Announcement (Voyager 2 Videos)
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2017, 12:37:27 am »
Ok, I've had many emails about the new channel name. Most think it's ok-ish, but they wanted the familiar EEV branding, and fair enough.
So I present EEVdiscover!

Now at 8k subs for 24k video views, that's only a 1/3 conversion rate.
Does that mean the idea is a flop? or would that be the natural expected interest rate on these types of videos? Hard to tell...
 
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2017, 01:29:30 am »
Might be a bit early to draw conclusions, I think.
 

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2017, 06:06:35 am »
Give it time, it's brand spanking new.
Perhaps a better metric would be a view count on (one of) the videos on the new channel vs subscribers. Keep in mind that your main audience is electronics crowd, not space nuts (your first two videos on the channel being space related). While there sure is an overlap, present company included, that is not to be expected for majority of your regular audience. Different interests and all that, perfectly reasonable.

Your next two videos are not related to space, so they will attract a different crowd. Give it time.
 

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2017, 09:53:22 am »

So I present EEVdiscover!

Now at 8k subs for 24k video views, that's only a 1/3 conversion rate.
Does that mean the idea is a flop? or would that be the natural expected interest rate on these types of videos? Hard to tell...
24k views? Do you get a different statistics that us, normal viewers, 'cause for what I see the count is at 9175 views (and 8528 subscribers), see screenshot below.

Channel creation date January 27th 2017, i.e. you were 'cooking' this new idea since a few months already?
 

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Re: IMPORTANT - New Channel Announcement (Voyager 2 Videos)
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2017, 10:38:44 am »

So I present EEVdiscover!

Now at 8k subs for 24k video views, that's only a 1/3 conversion rate.
Does that mean the idea is a flop? or would that be the natural expected interest rate on these types of videos? Hard to tell...
24k views? Do you get a different statistics that us, normal viewers, 'cause for what I see the count is at 9175 views (and 8528 subscribers), see screenshot below.

I meant the number of views on the EEVblog channel for the announcement video. i.e. the number of people watched the announcement and bothered to go watch the Voyager videos or subscribe.

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Channel creation date January 27th 2017, i.e. you were 'cooking' this new idea since a few months already?

Since late last year.
I originally had much bigger plans for it, but have backtracked on those for now.
 

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Re: IMPORTANT - New Channel Announcement (Voyager 2 Videos)
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2017, 11:51:00 am »
I LOVE space related stuff. Thanks for taking the time to do this Dave.  :-+

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Re: IMPORTANT - New Channel Announcement (Voyager 2 Videos)
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2017, 12:46:47 pm »
 Didn't get a chance to watch yet but as soon as I watch the first one I know I am going to hit the Subscribe button. So, maybe early to judge how many current EEVBlog subscribers/forum participants actually like the idea. I love the concept, getting to see things I have no connections with which to be able to gain access for myself. And of course space stuff. Usually watch the vintage NASA videos Homer posts, rarely watch Vintage Space because something about Amy annoys me.

 

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2017, 01:15:16 pm »
Just subscribe........
 

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2017, 06:44:16 pm »
[snip]
Now at 8k subs for 24k video views, that's only a 1/3 conversion rate.
Does that mean the idea is a flop? or would that be the natural expected interest rate on these types of videos? Hard to tell...
I saw your announcement video while watching on my living room TV with a Roku 3.  Since the channel was only subscribable (is that a word?) via the link you gave, I had to wait until I was back at my computer (just now) to actually subscribe because the Roku YouTube channel does not show any video description data and thus I was not able to subscribe that way.
Other devices may have similar limitations, so I wouldn't take 1/3 conversion rate as negative yet.
At least wait until the channel becomes fully live and searchable before drawing conclusions.
I like EEVdiscover as a name.
 

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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2017, 07:32:34 pm »
Uh, Channel Terminated?

What happened?
 

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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2017, 07:36:10 pm »
Youtube pulled out the plug, Ouch, that hurts!
 

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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2017, 07:38:22 pm »
"This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube's policy against spam, deceptive practices, and misleading content or other Terms of Service violations. "
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2017, 07:52:51 pm »
WTF?! Why Youtube terminated the account??
 

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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2017, 08:19:05 pm »
What the flying fuck....
YouTube really messed up big time.

I guess this is the result of having a "new channel" having to have 100.000 views before they let you manage it more. I would guess that if any complaint is raised in that time frame, its instant death?

Are they insane?
 

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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2017, 08:42:00 pm »
I was looking forward to watching part 2 of the voyager contact after I came home  :wtf:  |O
 

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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2017, 09:34:14 pm »
That big red banner suggesting the account owner is deceptive is computer/auto generated libel.

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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2017, 09:58:09 pm »
I just woke up to find the new channel is GONE!  :-//  :scared:

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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2017, 10:00:24 pm »
I got this email:
 

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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2017, 10:22:47 pm »
Dave please stop your deceptive practices!  :-DD
 

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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2017, 12:04:21 am »
Wow. As with others, I was just sitting down to watch the Voyager and DSN vids. Scratching my head looking for the new channel in my subscriptions and/or my history on Apple TV, and it's gone! Went to browser on comp to get the link through EEVblog and *boom*. 😟

I just can't imagine what triggered the lockout. Crazy.  :wtf:
 

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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2017, 12:05:48 am »
Prohibited from accessing, possessing or creating any other YouTube accounts?   WTF?

So now Dave isn't allowed to post EEVBlog videos?   Or even access his account?

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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2017, 12:12:18 am »
Prohibited from accessing, possessing or creating any other YouTube accounts?   WTF?

So now Dave isn't allowed to post EEVBlog videos?   Or even access his account?
Yeah it stinks.
Watched both and they were very good. More like them please.
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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2017, 12:18:18 am »
Might be something to do with the name. "ediscovery" is another name for the legal term "Electronic Discovery" - something that Youtube's laywers would be drowning in. Basically "EEVdiscover" may be too close and may have tripped a whole series of automatic alerts.
 

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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2017, 12:26:58 am »
It seem to me that YouTube is putting advertisers front and center instead of YouTubers that made this platform viable in the first place, effectively muting folks' voices by demonitizing creators' videos that advertisers don't like. The EEVdiscover channel may have triggered someone.

And no do not expect this way-too-broad auto banning to go away as it is there to satisfy the advertisers (aka megacorporations.)
 

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« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2017, 12:44:40 am »
Is there any viable alternative to YouTube?

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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2017, 12:48:42 am »
Is there any viable alternative to YouTube?
Business-wise probably not

I bet Dave is already contacting them to get this sorted.
 

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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2017, 01:48:24 am »
Dave,

I'm guessing that your channel name was too close the the "Discovery Channel," which is an American cable channel (if you don't get it down there).
 

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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2017, 01:54:32 am »
Dave,

I'm guessing that your channel name was too close the the "Discovery Channel," which is an American cable channel (if you don't get it down there).

We do, and I think you may be right.....

The other flag might be a cruise ship named "Voyager 2" selling trips ....that's the trouble with algorithm driven judgements.......they need a human to check the results before bans are acted upon....... or this will just happen again and again.
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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2017, 02:03:12 am »
Wow Youtube has really gotten ridiculous with their copyright bullshit, that's the only thing I can see that they could use as an excuse.  Maybe it sounds too close to "Discovery Channel"?  Or it's not considered family friendly enough? (that is apparently a new policy now). 

There really needs to be a competitor to Youtube, since as long as they have monopoly they'll keep being able to pull off crap like this.  idealy said site would need to be outside the US.  The US is too insane when it comes to IP laws.
 

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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2017, 02:06:28 am »
I have watched a few of Dave's videos over the years but I just am not that much into electronics anymore and am not interested in reviews of test equipment. My dad was a technician who maintained analog tv transmitters so I really enjoyed the old tv transmitter vid and I am obsessed with space so enjoyed the new videos on the DSN. I have trimmed back by YT subscriptions to more relevant content and channels like EEVblog didn't make the cut because as I said I am just not that into electronics anymore. But I would definitely sub to this new channel for content similar to this. Unfortunately Youtube has ripped the videos out of my history and killed the new channel so I can't share the videos with people. I hope it gets resolved soon and the new channel does well.
 

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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2017, 02:23:47 am »
Dave,

I'm guessing that your channel name was too close the the "Discovery Channel," which is an American cable channel (if you don't get it down there).

I had wondered if that might be the cause as well, but doing a channel search for "Discovery" on youtube turns up 30 pages of results. Many are related to the Discovery Channel proper, but a significant number are not. Of the ones with no affiliation several had larger subscriber counts than EEVDiscovery and have been up for a lot longer. I think something else is going on
 

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« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2017, 02:35:21 am »
Tell us where to send inquiries to YT asking for explanations. I watched both videos and that generic message does not make sens to me. If a few thousand people will ask they cant ignore it.
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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2017, 03:15:43 am »
As annoying as his voice is, he usually racks up tasty muck, so maybe there's been some collateral damage from the Ministry of Information's latest airstrikes...

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« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2017, 03:57:37 am »
I started watching the first Voyager 2 video, but had to go before finishing it.

Now I can't see what happened next!!!!!  :scared:
 

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« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2017, 04:24:30 am »
Dave,

I'm guessing that your channel name was too close the the "Discovery Channel," which is an American cable channel (if you don't get it down there).

We do, and I think you may be right.....

The other flag might be a cruise ship named "Voyager 2" selling trips ....that's the trouble with algorithm driven judgements.......they need a human to check the results before bans are acted upon....... or this will just happen again and again.

Doubt it's discovery channel. They don't have a monopoly on the word discovery. It was most likely Voyager 2 that triggered it and sent it to some idiot in a poor country for review who knows nothing about space probes and just went "dis ain't no cruise! Totes scam!". Sometimes I wish the servers handling this :bullshit: would get hit by lightning and go
*BZZZZZZAAAAAP*
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« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2017, 04:47:16 am »
EEVdiscover is back again!
 

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« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2017, 07:47:03 am »
Is there any viable alternative to YouTube?

No.
 

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« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2017, 07:49:36 am »
Yes it's back now, no idea why.
It was not the form I filled in because they replied with "We see no problem with this account" so they obviously reviewed it after someone else had hit the reinstate button.
And no it would not have been a Discovery Trademark thing. No way they would have just ignored a Trademark claim and gave me my channel back.
 

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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2017, 12:34:32 pm »
As Dave alluded in his video:
  • New channel.
  • Four videos uploaded quickly, two of which had a checksum match to existing videos on another channel.  (Never mind that it was the same account owner)
  • Very fast rise in subscriptions over a short period of time.
  • Monetization is enabled.
  • No channel icon.
Taken individually these are normal things that can occur to a channel, but together they likely triggered the auto-delete bot.
The highest offenders were that it was a brand new channel and multiple video checksums matched another channel's content and monetization is enabled.

It is not normal for a new channel to contain 50% content taken from another channel and gain 10K subscribers that fast.  Triggered.

Glad it's back.
 

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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2017, 01:17:57 pm »
Absolutely love the DSN/Voyager videos (I had a home built 8 meter parabolic dish in my backyard bouncing 1296 MHz signals of the moon, so love this stuff)  :-+
 

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« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2017, 01:46:50 pm »
As Dave alluded in his video:
  • New channel.
  • Four videos uploaded quickly, two of which had a checksum match to existing videos on another channel.  (Never mind that it was the same account owner)
  • Very fast rise in subscriptions over a short period of time.
  • Monetization is enabled.
  • No channel icon.
Taken individually these are normal things that can occur to a channel, but together they likely triggered the auto-delete bot.
The highest offenders were that it was a brand new channel and multiple video checksums matched another channel's content and monetization is enabled.

It is not normal for a new channel to contain 50% content taken from another channel and gain 10K subscribers that fast.  Triggered.

Glad it's back.

Yep, I'd put money on that being the reason...
 

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« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2017, 09:37:16 am »

Dave,

Thanks for EEVdiscover.

I like the DSN videos. I’ve never seen any part of the DSN this close-up before. I would’ve loved to see some footage from the radio room with the cryogenic LNA and transmitters, but these where probably off limits. 

The synchrotron video brought back memories as I did some work at the Eindhoven technical University cyclotron accelerator facility during my study.

Keep up de good work. :-+

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