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My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« on: April 18, 2017, 04:09:13 am »
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 04:22:14 am »
When you said your new channel was banned and then read out the reason the first thought that entered my head was that it might have been because of the format and name of the new blog, i.e. with Discover in the name and hence the deceptive part of the reason. For while I don't know how fussed Discovery Channel would be about channel names that bear some passing resemblance to theirs I know other main stream media and entertainment sites tend to be quite heavy handed about such things. But no doubt we'll find out soon enough but it is typical of Youtube, just shoot first and screw asking any questions at all.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2017, 04:24:14 am »
Well as someone said here recently:
definition: "cloud": someone else's computer.

If you aren't paying for it, you're not the customer.  So there's no reason to believe that any 3rd party company is going to act in a way that corresponds to what you think is best.  However nonsensical their actions are and even if they're just "mistakes" that they ultimately rectify, you're the one that ends up hurt and frustrated.  At least your content is high enough profile that maybe one day / week soon they might "generously" fix your case.  Most aren't so lucky when some uncaring corporate bureaucracy or worse indiscriminate algorithm / heuristic decides to mess up their stuff.

Anyway the point is, you've got a perfectly fine web server and you know how to use it.  Rather than contribute to youtube's success while they increasingly inhibit yours maybe reconsider why you'd even want to do business with such a company / "service".
They're making it pretty clear that in some machination of their heuristics and algorithms they decided they don't want / need you, so why do you want them? 

Near monopolies are almost always in nobody's best interests other than the proprietors, that's even more of a global problem on the internet infrastructure.  Don't create a "monster" and then complain that you got eaten by it.  Take control of your own media / service while you still can and expect the worst but hope for the best if you're including needless middlemen and "cloud" services in the mix.


 
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 04:24:29 am »
Unbelievable Dave, treated like you're a learner or something not somebody with ~1K YT vids over how many years ?  :scared:
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 04:24:36 am »
EEVdiscover looks to be up and working to me. Not sure if it has been restored rather quickly, or they have a weird definition of 'banned' and 'terminated' at Youtube...

Edit; just read the other thread, so they got it back up smartly. Seems google ain't got their smartest bot working on detecting scams...
« Last Edit: April 18, 2017, 04:29:32 am by hendorog »
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 04:32:18 am »
EEVdiscover looks to be up and working to me. Not sure if it has been restored rather quickly, or they have a weird definition of 'banned' and 'terminated' at Youtube...

Edit; just read the other thread, so they got it back up smartly. Seems google ain't got their smartest bot working on detecting scams...
The channel is there, but with no videos.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 04:34:49 am »
Crap! Posted a new thread right after I posted my joke in the old one!

Well, it applies here too so double the funny.

Sometimes I feel that Youtube's :bullshit: servers should get hit by lightning and go
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2017, 04:41:53 am »
Yep, it's back up now, all videos there it seems

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkGvUEt8iQLmq3aJIMjT2qQ
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2017, 04:47:36 am »


Quote from: evb149 on Today at 03:24:14
...Don't create a "monster" and then complain that you got eaten by it.  Take control of your own media / service while you still can and expect the worst but hope for the best if you're including needless middlemen and "cloud" services in the mix.



I don't disagree with regard to monopolies but what you say about taking control is fine if you're just running a site with a few hundred or so members downloading or streaming the odd few videos per day. However, with the popularity of Dave's sites, just maintaining such a site would be a full time job for at least one someone, let alone the cost of other resources such as bandwidth etc etc. For all its faults, and I have little time for the way they react in circumstances like these, Youtube does at least allow a creator to just concentrate on content creation leaving the rest of the hassle of publishing to them.
 

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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2017, 04:56:20 am »
Ah - It's back!

 :-+ :-+ :-+


Just out of curiosity - did YouTube give an explanation as to what happened?
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2017, 05:17:25 am »
Yep, it's back up now, all videos there it seems

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkGvUEt8iQLmq3aJIMjT2qQ

Looks like that guy finally figured out what he was supposed to do with that fire extinguisher. :P
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2017, 06:08:26 am »
I wish they would put more effort into banning the scammers with their free energy crap. If you keep clicking through technology videos the suggestions eventually lead to one.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2017, 06:29:16 am »
I wish they would put more effort into banning the scammers with their free energy crap. If you keep clicking through technology videos the suggestions eventually lead to one.

Why should Youtube ban these channels? Usually they are just crackpots who don't hurt others and they should have the right to ridicule themselves. And even if they try to sell something, this will be a good lesson for people who buy this crap. But maybe Youtube should add a red warning below such selling videos: "attention: because of the laws of physics, this device won't work as advertised" and with a link to the Simpsons clip "in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics".
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2017, 06:32:18 am »
Don't hurt others? We live in a society of people hurt by ignorance and misinformation plus they are just making money off the adds.

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2017, 06:41:27 am »
Usually there are some useful comments for such videos. And where would you draw the line for banning videos? Would you ban religious crap, too?
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2017, 07:01:50 am »
Why should Youtube ban these channels? Usually they are just crackpots who don't hurt others and they should have the right to ridicule themselves. And even if they try to sell something, this will be a good lesson for people who buy this crap.
Don't think so. Many of those who buy that crap will never learn it was a scam.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2017, 07:38:53 am »
Warm fraud is fraud. And i extend the definition to include being defrauded of time. At the end of the day you have to believe someone if you are to learn but the line between reality and false i formation has become hard to determine.

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2017, 07:50:57 am »
Ah - It's back!
 :-+ :-+ :-+
Just out of curiosity - did YouTube give an explanation as to what happened?

Nope  :-//
 

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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2017, 07:52:47 am »
That's helpful.   :--
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2017, 07:56:57 am »
Warm fraud is fraud. And i extend the definition to include being defrauded of time. At the end of the day you have to believe someone if you are to learn but the line between reality and false i formation has become hard to determine.

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Doesn't youtube have a policy against scams and fraud? If they are selling anything or promoting a scam then techically, yes, they should be banned. If not, can't bust them.

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2017, 08:12:21 am »
I wish they would put more effort into banning the scammers with their free energy crap. If you keep clicking through technology videos the suggestions eventually lead to one.

Google is a for profit company. Just like banning homemade porns, YT makes money on them, only the law requests them to ban such contents. Unless there is a government request saying that YT must ban these warm scams, they have no reason to do so. They generate PV clicks and AD income for YT. Another reason is that viewers are protesting these contents. If there is no social stress, nor governmental stress, why giving up chance to make money?
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2017, 08:51:08 am »
If we replaced morals and common decency with laws everyone would complain. You can't legislate for everything but telling lies seems to be completely acceptable these days.

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2017, 09:19:29 am »
The same thing happened to one of my videos two months ago.
YouTube deleted the video without any warning and only with the same general statement.
They even warned me, that if I violate their guidelines again, they will delete my whole account; but I don't even know what kind guidelines I supposed to have violated!  :-//

The video was online again after two hours without any excuse and without any explanation.  :-\

Every time I upload a video, I have that fear that it gets deleted again  :--
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2017, 09:41:16 am »
My guess is that whoever implemented the algorithm finding duplicated videos forgot to add a simple check for the uploader's account (same account -> ok / different accounts -> fishy). It's obvious that YouTube have to automate everything to deal with the gazillions of videos, but they should put more effort into reducing false positives. Things like this banned channel are embarrassing for YouTube. Playing with AI and quantum computing they've messed up a simple check |O
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2017, 09:51:53 am »
My guess is that whoever implemented the algorithm finding duplicated videos forgot to add a simple check for the uploader's account (same account -> ok / different accounts -> fishy).
I think they implemented such an algorithm, but the other way around. There are a lot of accounts on YouTube that upload videos from other channels without any problems.
BUT:
Once I uploaded a video and realized that its audio and video on YT were out of sync, although the original video on my PC did not have that problem.
I rendered the video again and uploaded it again without publishing it, only as private video. I wanted to check if that sync problem remains.
The second video was blocked some minutes after uploading!! Even Though it was private and not published!!   :o
 


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