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Re: New web site!
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2015, 12:43:54 am »
It is horribly slow, jerky, and crushes my iPhone Safari native browser. Mind I practically do not have any applications installed on my phone, I do not play games, nothing, just literally a bare OS. No, sorry, I am not "getting a better phone".

Sorry, I do not have an iPhone to test it on.
It works fine on my Android phone, near instant load, as it does in my browser as well, no slower than the old website.

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Still, I do not understand what was wrong with the original site.

The old website was not mobile compatible, that means that google now punishes websites that aren't compatible, not showing up in search results any more etc.
It also did not support drop down menus and other more flexible stuff including the shopping cart I want to use.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2015, 12:51:22 am »
They are investigating the use of this plugin to consolidate the javascript files:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/bwp-minify/
Hopefully that will improve page load times. But like I said, it's no slower for me than the old site. On my desktop or phone.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2015, 12:54:24 am »
Thanks. Even with a dozen eevblog tabs the CPU now flatlines down in the usual low single digits.

OK, thanks, that solves that.

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Not to want to beat up on you at this time but I think you should leave the tweets to your twitter followers.

The idea is that people might see tweet they find interesting and go follow me on twitter. Just a link doesn't do much in that respect.

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Maybe just put a static "follow Dave on Twitter" banner in place of the rolling tweets.

The old site had a static list of my last three tweets in the sidebar that loaded when the page loaded. Perhaps I can do that again.

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Although I am not on Twitter I do sometimes look at your twitter feed and it seems to me that a lot of your tweets are dominated by a photo. Which makes the text just a caption.

Yes, good point, I do tweet a lot of photos.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2015, 01:02:46 am »
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150820_RS_18FD/

10 seconds load time, 3.5mb for the front page. yep, this has to suck for people with older computers :(


Why? What's so different from before?
for starters it was working before, now this is how it looks for me : https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/new-web-site!/msg735894/#msg735894

Looks fine for me on Opera.

http://www.eevblog.com/wp-content/themes/sahifa/style.css :
Code: [Select]
#slide-out {
height: 100%;

by default aside tag "slide-out" (search bar) has a full page height declared, combine with z-index 1 and you get the result documented in my picture
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Re: New web site!
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2015, 01:16:34 am »
10 seconds load time

It loads in well under 1 second for me.
4 seconds on my phone with just mobile reception which is very typical of websites. As fast or faster than most I visit.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2015, 01:19:37 am »
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150820_RS_18FD/

From that same test, most of the size is images, just it's always been, so I don't think the new site is a huge amount bigger.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2015, 01:20:23 am »
10 seconds load time

It loads in well under 1 second for me.
4 seconds on my phone with just mobile reception which is very typical of websites. As fast or faster than most I visit.

Cache, maybe? It is noticeably slow to load for me on a fresh browser, but after it's cached it's not so bad.
 

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« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2015, 01:22:41 am »
I have never used the site but may start using it... :-+

I went there with java disabled, picture below and then enabled it and refreshed, it's all good now.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2015, 01:37:24 am »
It loads in well under 1 second for me.
4 seconds on my phone with just mobile reception which is very typical of websites. As fast or faster than most I visit.

10 sec is on a fresh browser with no cache

http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150820_RS_18FD/

From that same test, most of the size is images, just it's always been, so I don't think the new site is a huge amount bigger.

-do you really really need custom fonts?
-css is a total mess right now, 12 separate files + bugs like the one with search bar 100% height. If someone goes thru them manually, prunes unused crap and consolidates into one file its going to make a lot of difference
-same for javascript
-not to mention there are 14 trackers (ghostery) :scared:
-images appear to be already optimized, you could maybe squeeze another 200-300KB converting to webp, so its rather pointless. their size and amount is another thing.
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Re: New web site!
« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2015, 01:47:41 am »
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150820_RS_18FD/
10 seconds load time, 3.5mb for the front page. yep, this has to suck for people with older computers :(
Its more an issue of internet speed than computer speed. That said, the front page is presenting a number of videos, with a reasonable resolution image from each. Its not going to be a small page, and if you have trouble with its download speed, you probably aren't going to get very far with playing the videos anyway.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2015, 02:13:32 am »
Its more an issue of internet speed than computer speed. That said, the front page is presenting a number of videos, with a reasonable resolution image from each. Its not going to be a small page, and if you have trouble with its download speed, you probably aren't going to get very far with playing the videos anyway.

Oh ok, I get it now.
The old site had just the embedded video links, but the new sites has these as images that link to pages instead.
I've already asked if this can be changed back to embedded video links.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2015, 02:44:50 am »
Its more an issue of internet speed than computer speed. That said, the front page is presenting a number of videos, with a reasonable resolution image from each. Its not going to be a small page, and if you have trouble with its download speed, you probably aren't going to get very far with playing the videos anyway.

Oh ok, I get it now.
The old site had just the embedded video links, but the new sites has these as images that link to pages instead.
I've already asked if this can be changed back to embedded video links.

Seems that's not a good idea.
The developers said:
1. Mobile users hate this as it means they have to download the YouTube image and the multiple copies of the video player (hard for machines with limited RAM) and they may accidental start a video they did not want to watch when scrolling.
2. Google hates multiple YouTube embeds on a homepage.
3. Google dislikes it where you repeat the exact content of a post on your home page.

So it seems like the current format is best in terms of Google compatibility. So if you want to watch the
The post images don't seem to take up much bandwidth, 44KB or so each.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2015, 02:53:13 am »
Please get rid of the smooth scrolling. It looks nice... for the first five seconds. The it just gets annoying. On websites without that rubbish, the page scrolls with the scroll wheel, ie the page follows the scroll wheel/finger movement closely. On eevblog.com, it now feels like the page resists scrolling, as if the computer was lagging. Scrolling a longer distance down the page also becomes jerky.

Likewise, the dropdown menu has a fade/scroll in effect. Another thing that looks nice the first time but then gets annoying. Why should I wait maybe 200 ms extra for a menu to appear if I don't have to?
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Re: New web site!
« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2015, 03:00:55 am »
Please get rid of the smooth scrolling.

I see no issues with the scrolling  :-//
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2015, 03:07:02 am »
I see no issues with the scrolling  :-//
Maybe you're using a browser that does smooth scrolling natively so you're not noticing a difference from other pages, or maybe you're using a mouse/mousepad with a scroll function that makes this less noticeable. The js module is called "SmoothScroll for websites v1.2.1". Not sure if you had to add it manually or if it was part of the new theme by default.
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Re: New web site!
« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2015, 04:02:47 am »
Hmmm, although I understand your motivation in terms of wanting to exploit the latest benefits of Google's search optimisation, do you have to make it so apparent that they seem to have the upper hand? Google has trancended just being a verb to some form of sentient being. It hates, it dislikes  it's alive!
OK, a bit dramatic I agree

Yes, way too dramatic.

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but it does make me wonder if you're on the right track and there isn't a better way. I have found that when you're onto something "right" the obstacles seem to fall away. It just doesn't seem to be right just yet.  Just saying. I don't know the answer. But the focus (however inadvertant or not) on meeting Google's needs just prompted the question.

I would be a fool not to have website that meets Google's requirements for SEO.
It's like people who hate Youtube and Google+ when that whole thing went down, and they told me to switch to Vimeo or something else instead. It's just an insane notion, I'd be out of business overnight, youtube is the only game in town just like Google is the only search game in town.

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I can live with the changes but it will be mostly by trying to bypass them as much as I feel I need to. Getting me off your home page asap must be a counterproductive outcome particularly if I am not alone.

Sorry, but no matter what I do, there will always be people who don't like the changes for whatever reason. It is impossible, not just hard, but actually impossible to have a website that pleases everyone and meets their needs and desires.

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Do you have current stats on what percentage of your viewers use a mobile device and how often they do if they use both mobile and PC?

I do somewhere I think, but if you don't use a mobile to view the site then it's not of a concern to you how it looks when rendered on a mobile. I actually think it works pretty well on my mobile. And now the site is mobile friendly and acceptable to Googles requirements.
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Re: New web site!
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2015, 04:12:23 am »
Looks good ... and i did make few sites in my life :) .. better than before for sure.


Two small recommendations:


1) Current Video and Last Post are the same - it is basically taking the whole view of the first page with two images that are identical. So you end up displaying same info twice => real estate waste.


2) Move site options under Archives - last down on the right column. That unless you don't have that many ppls logging in ...


So far look OK to me, no visible bugs, in for Ffox and Chrome on Linux. 





 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2015, 04:15:11 am »
I've now turned Cloudflare back on with AutoMinify and RocketLoader options enabled. This should make the issues with all the Javascript files much faster.
Could take a little bit to start working.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2015, 04:17:08 am »
Looks good ... and i did make few sites in my life :) .. better than before for sure.
Two small recommendations:
1) Current Video and Last Post are the same - it is basically taking the whole view of the first page with two images that are identical. So you end up displaying same info twice => real estate waste.

Yeah, I know, that's kinda bugging me a little bit. Not quite sure what to do here yet. I like having the ability to feature a video like that though.
I can fiddle with all this stuff in the template, more experimentation required.
One big thing I want to do it categorise every single video and then have them available as categories. If you like teardowns, all teardowns can be listed etc.
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Re: New web site!
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2015, 04:20:39 am »
I've now turned Cloudflare back on with AutoMinify and RocketLoader options enabled. This should make the issues with all the Javascript files much faster.
Could take a little bit to start working.

The page is now loading practically instantly for me now. Seems much faster.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2015, 04:25:12 am »
Please get rid of the smooth scrolling.

Smooth scrolling is now removed.
Could still be in a cache somewhere though.
 

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Re: New web site! ---> LINKS
« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2015, 05:18:35 am »
Links

Since this is a long post, I am not sure this has been said.

Clicking on links does not open a new tab.  It is easy to lose a site this way.  I like this forum, when you click on a link a new tab opens and you do not lose your original page.

Wordpress has an option to do it either way so it is a simple change to make
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Re: New web site!
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2015, 05:39:57 am »

For last video thing ... Here is one idea. Make the video smaller, put it on the right hand side under the facebook, twitter and youtobe counters with title Latest video and get rid of the past posts title.
Not 100% sure is gonna look good but it is an idea.
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2015, 06:00:50 am »
Dave, the new, modernized style is très chic!

No problems on edge, IE11, chrome on my low power machine.

Windows Smartphone is also ok, I'm only missing your portrait / logo top left corner.

Frank
 

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Re: New web site!
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2015, 06:05:58 am »
Lookin' good.
 


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