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Offline dunkemhigh

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2015, 11:10:25 pm »
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If it bothers you that much why not...

I suspect you haven't been introduced to some of the deranged and malicious elements of humankind who populate the interwebs. Even people who are quite meek and normal in real life can turn into serious fuckwits on forums - there are plenty of examples.

If you do get on the wrong end of their stick you'll find that the ability to stalk, to know exactly what you're doing and where you're doing it, is a delicious tool for them.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2015, 11:12:31 pm »
The whole concept of privacy on the Internet is an oxymoron From the moment you turn on your computer or your smart phone and become connected who you are is known by everyone from your ISP to a dozen or more ad servers at any given time.

Why do you think some of us who go back to before the publicly available Internet call it
The Worldwide Wiretap.
If privacy is that important to you, perhaps a life in the woods, no driver license, credit cards, no phone of any kind and, with cash only to make transactions with is more your style.

Even using onion routers; there is no way to insure privacy.
Life comes with a measure of risk, if it is to be fully experienced.
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2015, 11:15:01 pm »
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If it bothers you that much why not...

I suspect you haven't been introduced to some of the deranged and malicious elements of humankind who populate the interwebs. Even people who are quite meek and normal in real life can turn into serious fuckwits on forums - there are plenty of examples.

If you do get on the wrong end of their stick you'll find that the ability to stalk, to know exactly what you're doing and where you're doing it, is a delicious tool for them.

Tell me about it.
I bear the scars from such sociopaths and psychopaths, in the end if they really want to find you they can, at least the smarter of them....
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2015, 03:58:40 am »
No need to help them along, though.

But one thing I haven't yet mentioned is that it is just common courtesy. I was brought up to respect other people's privacy, so I wouldn't dream, for instance, of asking you how much you earn or watching you take a dump. Nowadays, youth seems to be much more uncouth and apparently have no respect and few morals. Plus Google will sell their souls for them (and retain the dosh, of course).

However, even with people of my generation who wouldn't be caught dead looking over your shoulder to see what you're typing or who you're calling, if they think no-one will see them they'll do it anyway. Human nature or something.

Who was it that went on about the single sign-on Google+ and how it was ruining comments on his videos? I'm sure there's irony involved in that.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2015, 04:07:05 am »
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/who/

Holy shit.

Does Dave get a kickback from TT (or, indeed, anywhere by leaving out this privacy option which other boards enable)?

Holy shit!  Who gives a toss?  Suggest you slacken off your tin foil hat.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2015, 04:10:32 am »
No need to help them along, though.

But one thing I haven't yet mentioned is that it is just common courtesy. I was brought up to respect other people's privacy, so I wouldn't dream, for instance, of asking you how much you earn or watching you take a dump. Nowadays, youth seems to be much more uncouth and apparently have no respect and few morals. Plus Google will sell their souls for them (and retain the dosh, of course).

However, even with people of my generation who wouldn't be caught dead looking over your shoulder to see what you're typing or who you're calling, if they think no-one will see them they'll do it anyway. Human nature or something.

Who was it that went on about the single sign-on Google+ and how it was ruining comments on his videos? I'm sure there's irony involved in that.

I agree with you regarding this issue.
Keep in mind we are here on the Internet along with many other cultures that feel it is fine to pry into one's private business and lie about everything from the color of the sky to the condition of what they are selling. Some countries if you don't lie cheat or pry into everyone's business you will be considered the oddball.

The United states is sinking to this level, a nation of liars, cheaters and nosy people.
When the rights of the individual, and corruption accompanied by lawlessness is the order of the day, the country is already lost.
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2015, 04:47:10 am »
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Who gives a toss?

Plainly not you, so why bother to comment? But your reply is illustrative of this and similar problems:

* I want the option, then people can use it or not as they like.

* You want to ban anyone else from  not being exactly like you, and prevent them from exercising choice, even when it doesn't affect you and doesn't bother you.



 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2015, 06:29:36 am »
Maybe I am somewhat naive, but what possible bad consequences can there be to someone knowing you are browsing the test equipment section of an electronics forum?
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2015, 06:33:14 am »
Maybe I am somewhat naive, but what possible bad consequences can their be to someone knowing you are browsing the test equipment section of an electronics forum?

I suppose if the OP was Amish there could be fallout..
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2015, 07:46:23 am »
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what possible bad consequences can there be

Doesn't need to be any, IMO - the simple fact that I don't want to have my private actions broadcast for public consumption should be enough.

Nevertheless, wouldn't it be cool to know the CEO of Siglent had spent 4 hours reading that topic and not said anything at all in there. Thing of the implications the more rabid in that topic could make out of that.

Would you mind if the neighbourhood watch chap followed you with a camera as you leave your house, broadcasting to all the other residents  all your actions in the road, the way you put out your rubbish, which garden you tip your cat's mess into, etc. You wouldn't stand for that, would you? Yet the same thing electronically is fine.

Plus, big privacy or security transgressions don't happen in a single jump. They ratchet up, so you get used to a slight transgression that isn't really that bad, and then it's a bit more and a bit more, and before you know it it's quite normal for what would have been a huge problem previously. Don't believe me? Look at the shitstorm that Phorm created, yet even worse stuff is the norm now. We are oblivious and happy that the likes of Google mine our data and know more about us than our partners do. It is not that long ago that the bloody Stasi had wet dreams about being able to do a fraction of what Google achieves, you know. What happened to make it alright? People thinking "How bad could this very minor thing actually be" and the ratchet effect doing the rest, is what.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2015, 08:03:38 am »
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/who/
Holy shit.
Does Dave get a kickback from TT (or, indeed, anywhere by leaving out this privacy option which other boards enable)?

Huh? I don't see the problem?
The Who page is a standard part of SMF
Why would I get some "kickback" from that page?  :-//
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2015, 08:06:04 am »
Go in and modify your profile settings, there is an option called "Show others my online status"
I think that does what you want.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2015, 08:13:40 am »
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/who/
Holy shit.
Does Dave get a kickback from TT (or, indeed, anywhere by leaving out this privacy option which other boards enable)?

Huh? I don't see the problem?
The Who page is a standard part of SMF
Why would I get some "kickback" from that page?  :-//

Some are sick and tired of pushy companies who use their paying customers to advertise for them.

Go in and modify your profile settings, there is an option called "Show others my online status"
I think that does what you want.

No.. there isn't. That's the problem.

Don't use privileged accounts to check for this stuff.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2015, 08:26:20 am »
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/who/
Holy shit.
Does Dave get a kickback from TT (or, indeed, anywhere by leaving out this privacy option which other boards enable)?

Huh? I don't see the problem?
The Who page is a standard part of SMF
Why would I get some "kickback" from that page?  :-//

Some are sick and tired of pushy companies who use their paying customers to advertise for them.

What on earth are you talking about? Are you getting a secret second version of that page that just flashes advertisements in your face?
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2015, 08:36:06 am »
Go in and modify your profile settings, there is an option called "Show others my online status"
I think that does what you want.

As Monkeh says, that option doesn't appear for us mere mortals. It used to, now it doesn't.

 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2015, 08:41:01 am »
it's not an option that i need but yap ... it's not there  ::)
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2015, 10:39:36 am »
It isn't there, as I said in my last post:

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go to admin, features and options and make sure the box "Allow non-administrators to hide their online status?" is checked.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2015, 10:45:23 am »
It isn't there, as I said in my last post:
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go to admin, features and options and make sure the box "Allow non-administrators to hide their online status?" is checked.

OK, it's not checked.
But now I'm in two minds whether or not to enable this.
I like that the forum displays who's online, it shows that the forum has active participants.
What is everyone goes and disables it?, bam, does the forum then show that no one is viewing anything?
Would the number of users online data suddenly vanish" or drop?
And to my knowledge no one has ever complained about it before.
And people have privacy in the fact that no one is forcing them to use their real name or real contact details on this forum.
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2015, 10:46:13 am »
It isn't there, as I said in my last post:
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go to admin, features and options and make sure the box "Allow non-administrators to hide their online status?" is checked.

OK, it's not checked.
But now I'm in two minds whether or not to enable this.
I like that the forum displays who's online, it shows that the forum has active participants.
What is everyone goes and disables it?, bam, does the forum then show that no one is viewing anything?
And to my knowledge no one has ever complained about it before.

It will show everyone as 'hidden'.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2015, 11:09:27 am »
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I like that the forum displays who's online, it shows that the forum has active participants.
What is everyone goes and disables it?, bam, does the forum then show that no one is viewing anything?

It would show 176 hidden + 23 guests
It's the same as now, you just don't get the user names for those that have it ticked (and, from this thread, you can believe most won't have it ticked, or they are hypocrites).
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2015, 11:26:20 am »
It would show 176 hidden + 23 guests
It's the same as now, you just don't get the user names for those that have it ticked (and, from this thread, you can believe most won't have it ticked, or they are hypocrites).

Ok, it's now enabled. We'll see how it goes.
I think it will look crappy though if everyone goes and enables it and the entire forum userbase is "hidden". I don't like that at all, very impersonal and non-inviting to new people.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2015, 11:28:12 am by EEVblog »
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2015, 11:29:27 am »
Most people won't enable it. Consider that most people abandoned begging you to implement SSL as well, despite the fact that a password is exchanged...

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2015, 11:30:56 am »
I suppose everyone has the right to traverse the Internet wearing a burka if they wish.
The Internet is a public space.

Wearing a bag over one's head only attracts attention.
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2015, 11:31:33 am »
Yeah, it's pretty scary. Especially when it's on the front page of the forum and even guests can see it.

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about?  :-//
What can guests see?
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2015, 11:35:25 am »
Do like I did;
Make up a completely factitious person, nobody has the slightest idea who I really am.
The more fake information you put out the more you can hide who you really are.

Truth be told;
I am a former executive of a large test equipment manufacturer who is running for president of the United States. Sure I made some mistakes but that was in my pre-menopausal life, now that my hormonal status has stabilized, and I don't fire people due to extreme PMS I am more than capable. ;)

Sue,they can find out exactly who you & I are by checking our Amateur Radio callsigns.

I agree,though,they don't know our back stories.
I could be (I wish) a multimillionaire---but I guess some of my comments on this & other forums has made that bit a pretty hard sell! ;D
 


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