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Offline mikerj

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #100 on: October 27, 2015, 08:02:09 pm »
* You want to ban anyone else from  not being exactly like you, and prevent them from exercising choice, even when it doesn't affect you and doesn't bother you.

I don't want to ban anyone, I'm just surprised at the level of paranoia you are displaying.  I appreciate a reasonable level of privacy, and I don't like the invasive antics of Google, Microsoft etc. but getting panicky because your username is in a "logged in" list on a random forum isn't normal or healthy.  Professional help might be a better solution.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #101 on: October 27, 2015, 11:35:34 pm »
May I suggest to the OP a possible answer that will put them at rest...
Perhaps the answer is to go and download one of the onion routers such as TOR.
Set up a new account and use the network of routers to hide your originating IP address.
There is a price to pay for this, you give up a substantial amount of your bandwidth, but if privacy is al that important this may be the answer.
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #102 on: October 27, 2015, 11:47:06 pm »
As for "Tapatalk" just enable desktop mode on the phone/tablet browser, usually works around those "we have an app for this" popups.

This works on my iPhone Safari browser, showing up only for couple times after browser restart, but I recall it did not work for a Samsung Android phone I tried, it kept popping up in desktop mode. It was very annoying.

Works fine on my Samsung S3 phone with the latest Chrome browser installed.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #103 on: October 27, 2015, 11:47:56 pm »
May I suggest to the OP a possible answer that will put them at rest...
Perhaps the answer is to go and download one of the onion routers such as TOR.
Set up a new account and use the network of routers to hide your originating IP address.
There is a price to pay for this, you give up a substantial amount of your bandwidth, but if privacy is al that important this may be the answer.

Or for an extra layer of privacy, go and live in a field and send encrypted messages via a carrier pigeon.  (example fjehgbriejvbvbfuejs = send more tin foil)
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #104 on: October 28, 2015, 12:02:13 am »
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Perhaps the answer is to go and download one of the onion routers such as TOR.

I appreciate the thought, but if you believe that this kind of thing is the answer then you don't understand the issue.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #105 on: October 28, 2015, 12:20:06 am »
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What a ridiculous suggestion and comparison, and you know it.
It is only ridiculous because you don't see the snooping as a breach of privacy.

You chose whether to register and post on this forum.
You chose whether to use an anonymous account or not.
This forum has had this feature from day 1, it was there two years ago when you registered and have since made 500+ posts. Now you want to say it invades your privacy?
Sorry, but no, it doesn't.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2015, 01:56:41 am »
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This forum has had this feature from day 1, it was there two years ago when you registered and have since made 500+ posts. Now you want to say it invades your privacy?

1. The previous thread you referred to shows it was enabled and being used earlier this year, so obviously it was recently turned off and active before that.

2. If I wasn't aware before that this was going on (and I didn't know about the real-time who page), does that make it alright now I am aware? Of course not - just because you get away with something for a while doesn't mean it's acceptable. Maybe someone likes to use a particular racial epithet in their post and they do that for months before you notice. Are you saying you'd have to keep letting them because you didn't call them out instantly? I suspect not.

2a. Maybe I didn't realise I could bring it up and ask. There has actually been something bugging me for a while (nothing to do with this, and I resolved it just last week after puzzling over it for months), and I was about to ask about that having figured that I could ask. Before, I didn't think I could.

2b. I normally turn off stuff like this automatically (and enable email notifications, plus other usual things one does when one joins a new forum). If, indeed, the option wasn't available at that time I would have assumed that would be because the info isn't publicised. Later, when I notice it /is/ publicised (I wouldn't automatically be looking for it every page) I would assume that it didn't apply to me since I automatically turn that stuff off. I mean, I don't have a country or sig, so anything relating to those are not applicable to me so why would I bother looking at that stuff? If I then found the system had automatically allocated me a sig or country, that would be a big surprise because I would still be ignoring stuff I should have been looking at. Same with this - the option is 'don't show' as far as I would be concerned, so no reason to investigate anything. Then I notice I am in that list, and raise the query.

So, not having tackled you about it in two years or whatever is perfectly legitimate with several pukka explanations (one of which is your fault), and doesn't in and of itself invalidate my query.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2015, 12:12:15 pm »
May I suggest to the OP a possible answer that will put them at rest...
Perhaps the answer is to go and download one of the onion routers such as TOR.
Set up a new account and use the network of routers to hide your originating IP address.
There is a price to pay for this, you give up a substantial amount of your bandwidth, but if privacy is al that important this may be the answer.

Or for an extra layer of privacy, go and live in a field and send encrypted messages via a carrier pigeon.  (example fjehgbriejvbvbfuejs = send more tin foil)
That works fine also. :)
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #108 on: October 28, 2015, 02:46:35 pm »
May I suggest to the OP a possible answer that will put them at rest...
Perhaps the answer is to go and download one of the onion routers such as TOR.
Set up a new account and use the network of routers to hide your originating IP address.
There is a price to pay for this, you give up a substantial amount of your bandwidth, but if privacy is al that important this may be the answer.

Or for an extra layer of privacy, go and live in a field and send encrypted messages via a carrier pigeon.  (example fjehgbriejvbvbfuejs = send more tin foil)
That works fine also. :)

fjehgbriejvbvbfuejs!!
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #109 on: October 28, 2015, 04:47:50 pm »
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This forum has had this feature from day 1, it was there two years ago when you registered and have since made 500+ posts. Now you want to say it invades your privacy?
1. The previous thread you referred to shows it was enabled and being used earlier this year, so obviously it was recently turned off and active before that.

I don't recall changing it at all.

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2. If I wasn't aware before that this was going on (and I didn't know about the real-time who page), does that make it alright now I am aware? Of course not - just because you get away with something for a while doesn't mean it's acceptable.

You have every right to find it unacceptable.
I have looked into it, thought about it, and decided that it is as acceptable as it always has been. This is also evidenced by not a single other complaint about it that I can recall in 5+ years.
So that's that, I'm not changing it. Sorry.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2015, 09:51:17 pm »
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I don't recall changing it at all.

Drunk in charge of a web forum one night?

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I have looked into it, thought about it, and decided ...

Yes, indeed. I am appreciative that you did listen and even tried the change, which is far more than many places would bother with. We have each given robust defenses of our particular position on this and I am also appreciative that we haven't come to blows (or bans!). Thanks  :-+
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2015, 11:28:31 pm »
This is really a very simple situation;
Dave's Forum
Dave's Website
Dave's House, in effect
Dave's Back yard
Dave's Football
Dave's Rules....

Any Questions?
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2015, 11:52:12 pm »
Any Questions?
Can somebody please explain what the problem was? I've read most of this thread and I am none the wiser (except for now understanding that the OP has some paranoia about people knowing where he tips his cat crap!)
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #113 on: October 29, 2015, 12:08:56 am »
Can somebody please explain what the problem was? I've read most of this thread and I am none the wiser (except for now understanding that the OP has some paranoia about people knowing where he tips his cat crap!)

The OP does not want to be seen to be online when online ... I think  :-//
« Last Edit: October 29, 2015, 12:11:17 am by GNU_Ninja »
 

Offline mikerj

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #114 on: October 29, 2015, 01:01:19 am »
Any Questions?
Can somebody please explain what the problem was? I've read most of this thread and I am none the wiser (except for now understanding that the OP has some paranoia about people knowing where he tips his cat crap!)

Either:

1) An unreasonable level of paranoia.
2) The OP is on the run from the NSA, but feels the need to log into the eevblog forum to discuss electronics with random people.

It's a great forum, so I'm voting for 2).
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #115 on: October 29, 2015, 01:08:53 am »
Let me ask from a different angle:

What is the purpose to see one's online status?

What is the benefit to me to advertise im online? If this serves me no purpose then it is just a bell/wistle and as such is a useless feature.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #116 on: October 29, 2015, 01:15:06 am »
Let me ask from a different angle:

What is the purpose to see one's online status?

What is the benefit to me to advertise im online? If this serves me no purpose then it is just a bell/wistle and as such is a useless feature.

What Difference does it make?
Maybe I want to see if my friend is online so I can PM them or call them on the phone...
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Re: Privacy
« Reply #117 on: October 29, 2015, 04:59:22 pm »

Maybe I want to see if my friend is online so I can PM them or call them on the phone...

And if they don't want to be contacted, then you've got one good reason why some people are asking for privacy (it's not all that difficult to understand, really).
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #118 on: October 29, 2015, 05:35:56 pm »
Either:

1) An unreasonable level of paranoia.
2) The OP is on the run from the NSA, but feels the need to log into the eevblog forum to discuss electronics with random people.

It's a great forum, so I'm voting for 2).

Snowden is that you?  ;)
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #119 on: October 29, 2015, 06:34:33 pm »
Let me ask from a different angle:
What is the purpose to see one's online status?

I explained that before:
1) To new people it gives sense of active forum, a more social feel.
2) It lets you see if someone is (potentially) still reading the thread you just replied to, if so you might want to hang around for a reply from them or more chat etc. If you see that no one is reading the thread but you, then, well, maybe better off heading to bed.

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What is the benefit to me to advertise im online?

Reverse of the above, people might reply to you quicker.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #120 on: October 30, 2015, 09:19:42 am »
So I am not allowed to be below the ramparts because it would cause the "(+1 hidden)" to spoil the look of things, but nevertheless there is a "(+1 hidden)" all the same. Fancy that, eh:

 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #121 on: October 30, 2015, 09:50:38 am »
Just give it up and start reading the forum logged out. Some people just can't understand the meaning of privacy. (It's not hiding, it's just not generating data where there's no NEED. It's called "Datensparsamkeit" in german, it translates to something like "principle of data economy". Also it is about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informational_self-determination)
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #122 on: October 30, 2015, 10:16:20 am »
Fancy that, eh:

Can I seriously ask why?  It's not like your viewing the chronic masterbaiter support form.   :-//

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #123 on: October 30, 2015, 10:34:50 am »
@Ruffy91 et al.: This doesn't affect you at all. I have no idea why you feel the need to poke your nose into it other than so you can take a contrary stance. Probably some ego thing, and of course there is the mob bullying aspect where juvenile insults just have to be made because... well, because that gives you a hard on.

Just ignore this thread if it bothers you so much.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #124 on: October 31, 2015, 09:35:21 pm »
So I am not allowed to be below the ramparts because it would cause the "(+1 hidden)" to spoil the look of things, but nevertheless there is a "(+1 hidden)" all the same. Fancy that, eh:
Hmm... I wonder if you can register on the forum with the handle "(+1 hidden)"  ;D
 


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