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Offline RetroDan™

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #225 on: April 12, 2015, 06:11:22 pm »
Funny that they wrote that this will be the final version of this book.

Just ordered my copy. 

Why are they saying that the third edition will be the final one?  I mean, sure, it's been around since 1980 (I think that was the first edition), and 35 years is a long time to be updating the same book, but technology advances steadily.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #226 on: April 12, 2015, 06:52:43 pm »
Why are they saying that the third edition will be the final one?
They are probably retiring?  :-//
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #227 on: April 12, 2015, 07:47:19 pm »
Funny that they wrote that this will be the final version of this book.

Just ordered my copy. 

Why are they saying that the third edition will be the final one?  I mean, sure, it's been around since 1980 (I think that was the first edition), and 35 years is a long time to be updating the same book, but technology advances steadily.

It is not surprising that they are thinking that. I was surprised they wrote that in the forward for the third edition. With that said they are still planning on writing another book with the chapters they had to leave out as well as a student lab book.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #228 on: April 15, 2015, 06:20:36 pm »
FYI do not order from Amazon seller ---SuperBookDeals. I placed an order on the 12th at a price of $77 + S&H. Today, I received a notice that my order has been canceled due to the book being "out of stock". Upon visiting their seller store today, I see that the book is still listed as in stock, but the price has gone up $20. Very unscrupulous seller -- unwilling to honor a sale having already taken my money.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #229 on: April 18, 2015, 07:02:56 am »
Finally got mine from local distributor. I am wondering how many of these are in the country.  :)

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #230 on: May 29, 2015, 06:03:42 am »
In their latest 'Ask an Engineer' show, Adafruit showed their signed copy of all three editions of AoE (and also a copy of the 'edition 0' manuscript):



a quite exclusive gift from the author:



and they announced that soon will post a 45-minutes interview with Horowitz. Should be interesting.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #231 on: May 29, 2015, 08:16:42 am »
I'm very surprised that nobody scanned their 3rd edition and did some OCR on it.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #232 on: June 01, 2015, 12:27:10 pm »
^^^
All 1100 odd pages? For what?

No way!
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #233 on: June 01, 2015, 12:46:57 pm »
Well people have scanned the old book and it hasn't been to much work for them.

It's really simple actually,  you just have to sacrifice one. Take the binding apart, but the staple of paper in a modern office copier and wait till it sends you the scanned pdf. Will take a few days, but no manpower required. We do it at work for old physics books. Many are not sold any more but we want to preserve them (for gems like "The enigmatic cathode radiation..." and "...the two forms of energy, one proportional to the speed, and one to its square...").
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #234 on: June 01, 2015, 01:21:22 pm »
In many countries that would be illegal.

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #235 on: June 01, 2015, 01:29:44 pm »
I'm very surprised that nobody scanned and their 3rd edition and did some OCR on it.

Maybe they have respect for the author or something silly like that...

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #236 on: June 01, 2015, 01:55:39 pm »
I've got an ADF scanner, double sided 50 sheets at a time. I guess I could sacrifice my copy and toil over the scanner for hours for the greater good of piratekind.

I mean, come on, Horowitz & Hill are up to their eyeballs in coke and hookers, laughing at all the hard-earned from us nerds while they cruise the world on their luxury yachts. Cambridge University Press are rolling in it too, the snobby elitist fascists they are.

Just tell me when, con-f-use, and I'll take an unpaid day off work for you and all our comrades. We can overthrow the capitalist pigs if we all make a little sacrifice  ;)
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #237 on: June 01, 2015, 02:10:19 pm »
I didn't say I condone piracy (although I mostly do, thinking society could be re-organized  to have an incentive other than money - freedom of knowledge, age of technology with enough for everyone and no need for as much menial labour and all this neo-socialist crap - why artificially make something sparse, that can be copied effortlessly? But that is another discussion and would require substantial change). No, I own a copy myself. What I said is, I was surprised there isn't a torrent. You can download so many science books, hell, even crappy World of Warcraft fiction. Prior to my AoE3 purchase, I wasn't sure, if I wanted to spend the money. It's a substantial amount for a book, me being on a PhD income. Plus my university will buy it for the library soon. Would have helped to look through the book online to see if it's worth it (to me) and it is.

In our present age of technology, you wouldn't have to take a day off work, provided you have access to the proper machine (as I said). I suspect Horowitz and Hill aren't exactly starving ether. If they were, I'd be happy to donate some money to them. I also suspect, they didn't go into academia for bitches and money.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #238 on: June 10, 2015, 04:17:57 am »
In our present age of technology, you wouldn't have to take a day off work, provided you have access to the proper machine (as I said). I suspect Horowitz and Hill aren't exactly starving ether. If they were, I'd be happy to donate some money to them. I also suspect, they didn't go into academia for bitches and money.

The average pay for a professor at Harvard is around $200k, fwiw.  Although that's entirely besides the point - creators of work should be compensated for said work, regardless of what kind of work it is.  There is more than one way of compensating someone though, but it has to be something they agree to.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #239 on: June 14, 2015, 12:09:02 pm »
 There was a digital file (aka "pdf" or whatever,...) of this Book, long before it was pulp-n-paper'd from a bunch of tree's.

ok, so, if I have to pay +$100 for this book, which I don't mind although it is overly expensive, then at least give me a "pdf" version,
 for obvious CONVENIENCE reasons ?!
 Or, since GREED is the ONLY thing that drives even Educational Instituions today, then fine, can you please sell me an "e"-version of this Book Please?  I'll even pay triple for it, instead of a bunch of hardcopy papers !
I mean,...,  :wtf:

 It's pathetic that they don't.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #240 on: June 14, 2015, 12:10:47 pm »
There was a digital file (aka "pdf" or whatever,...) of this Book, long before it was pulp-n-paper'd from a bunch of tree's.

ok, so, if I have to pay +$100 for this book, which I don't mind although it is overly expensive, then at least give me a "pdf" version,
 for obvious CONVENIENCE reasons ?!
 Or, since GREED is the ONLY thing that drives even Educational Instituions today, then fine, can you please sell me an "e"-version of this Book Please?  I'll even pay triple for it, instead of a bunch of hardcopy papers !
I mean,...,  :wtf:

 It's pathetic that they don't.

I have no reason to doubt that you would pay $100 for a PDF. But that's not the problem, is it!
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #241 on: June 14, 2015, 12:26:40 pm »

I have no reason to doubt that you would pay $100 for a PDF. But that's not the problem, is it!

 yes, some people will no doubt torrent it, but that doesn't stop iTunes, Linnrecords, Ponomusic, HDTracks, ... and a thousand others from $elling Music files,..., nobody I know buys Audio-CD's anymore, hollywood will be the last old corrupt fortress to fall, plus almost every other book on the planet is downloadable.

 Modern AOE, sold only from the Dark Ages, how wonderful.

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #242 on: June 14, 2015, 12:38:48 pm »
I have no reason to doubt that you would pay $100 for a PDF. But that's not the problem, is it!

...anyway, thanks for the quick reply.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #243 on: June 14, 2015, 12:46:06 pm »
Having never stopped using paper myself, it's always bizarre to me when someone gets his panties in a twist over the lack of an electronic version of something. You can use the paper book dude, we all manage as we have for a very long time...
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #244 on: June 14, 2015, 01:01:15 pm »
Having never stopped using paper myself, it's always bizarre to me when someone gets his panties in a twist over the lack of an electronic version of something. You can use the paper book dude, we all manage as we have for a very long time...

 I like to curl up into my mind with a paper-book too, when I need to study or focus on specific problems, and I'm open-minded.
 But when the light comes on, within a bigger inter-twined project, and I need to continually multi-reference many docs/schematics/.... I like to have them all readily available in multiple windows. but that's the difference,
your photographic-memory is better than mine, since I tend to always have to re-understand some things...?

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #245 on: June 14, 2015, 01:10:10 pm »
Both have their merits. Less distraction, easier on the eyes, no charging, ... for paper. Easier transport of many, lighter, less space, text-search for eBooks. I'd love to have an electronic version of the 3rd edition.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #246 on: June 14, 2015, 01:54:40 pm »
I have to scan in books now anyway, due to failing eyesight, although I more often buy Kindle editions where available. As I read a lot of out-of-print or pre-Kindle stuff, that's often not an option. On the upside, the British Library (among others) now allows photography of books, and I've got quite an efficient JPG->OCR pipeline set up, so it is getting easier and more legal.

As for this being the last edition of H&H, I'm not surprised. Analogue electronics hasn't changed much since 1980, the same techniques are just as valid and while areas like RF have progressed enormously they're specialisms. And all the digital advances have taken place within chips, again a specialist area, with software taking over more and more of analogue's domain. I'm sure that H&H will continue to be an essential work for engineers, but I think it's evolved to where it needs to be.

 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #247 on: June 14, 2015, 02:46:43 pm »
I have hopes for Learning the Art of Electronics.

They should sell a digital version and a companion app for Windows/Linux/Android/iOS/WP with tons of tests, stuff found in apps such as Electrodroid/ElectroBuddy/KarnMap/Morgana/Droid Circuit Calc/Electronics Toolbox/Secuential Circuits/MOS Circuit/Electro Quiz

- Games: Electronic Jam, Electronic Memory symbols, HexToBinary Practice, Binary Sudoku, Binary Practice, Binary Challenge, Cisco Binary Game, Binairo Solver, Bimoxxo, The Binary Game, Circuit Breakers, DC Run and others are a good start. They could make learning easier for novices.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #248 on: June 14, 2015, 02:55:13 pm »
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Some throwaway account you have there... you wouldn't be brave enough to give out a real e-mail address or something, would'ja? ;D

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #249 on: June 24, 2015, 02:54:38 pm »
Book Depository has 10% off via booko.com.au for 3 days; brings AoE v3 down to $95au.
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