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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #325 on: January 13, 2016, 04:46:08 pm »
It arrived; and it's a beast. Wow.  Going to take me a little bit of time to absorb all of that.


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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #326 on: February 15, 2016, 03:56:26 pm »
News on Kindle Reader edition:  We're told that it will be in Amazon's hands by the end of this week, so availability likely this month.  Note that it is in "Print Replica" format, thus readable on laptops, desktops, and tablets, etc., but not on e-ink devices like Kindle Paperwhite.
Here's how Amazon describes it:
"Kindle Print Replica textbooks maintain the formatting and layout of their print editions while also offering many of the advantages of Kindle books.
Each page in a Print Replica textbook displays words and images in the same position as the corresponding print edition, while adding features such as notes, highlights, and the ability to sync your last page read across multiple Fire tablets, Kindle e-readers and Kindle reading apps. Kindle Print Replica textbooks also have most of the same features as PDF-formatted books, including zoom and pan functions.
Kindle Print Replica textbooks are supported on: Fire tablets, Kindle for PC, Kindle for Mac, Kindle for iPhone, iPad, & iPod touch, Kindle for Android, Kindle for Samsung."
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #327 on: February 16, 2016, 05:55:56 am »
News on Kindle Reader edition:  We're told that it will be in Amazon's hands by the end of this week, so availability likely this month.  Note that it is in "Print Replica" format, thus readable on laptops, desktops, and tablets, etc., but not on e-ink devices like Kindle Paperwhite.
Here's how Amazon describes it:
"Kindle Print Replica textbooks maintain the formatting and layout of their print editions while also offering many of the advantages of Kindle books.
Each page in a Print Replica textbook displays words and images in the same position as the corresponding print edition, while adding features such as notes, highlights, and the ability to sync your last page read across multiple Fire tablets, Kindle e-readers and Kindle reading apps. Kindle Print Replica textbooks also have most of the same features as PDF-formatted books, including zoom and pan functions.
Kindle Print Replica textbooks are supported on: Fire tablets, Kindle for PC, Kindle for Mac, Kindle for iPhone, iPad, & iPod touch, Kindle for Android, Kindle for Samsung."

Nice.

Will there be an upgrade program from print replica to the (live?) one?
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #328 on: February 16, 2016, 06:46:48 am »
News on Kindle Reader edition:  We're told that it will be in Amazon's hands by the end of this week, so availability likely this month.  Note that it is in "Print Replica" format, thus readable on laptops, desktops, and tablets, etc., but not on e-ink devices like Kindle Paperwhite.

Well, that seems like a misstep, since it doesn't have any advantages over the pirate PDF that people can get for free.  If it were a true ebook, people would be more likely to pay for it (again, since they probably have the paper book already).



I would prefer a LIVE ePUB3 version: Your book gets updated and fixed, your book gets updated by paying a yearly fee.

Of course this would require a team dedicated to AoE, but it would make it the DEFINITIVE and MOST UPDATED book :)
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #329 on: February 16, 2016, 11:55:42 am »
Y so much y ninig
The title of the book is ingenious.
It's not a cookbook, a datasheet or a how to.

Simple Definition of art
    : something that is created with imagination and skill and that is beautiful or that expresses important ideas or feelings

and yet hre we are talking about e-ink, pdf, kindle alphabet soup.
Buy it, read it, know it. B done.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #330 on: February 23, 2016, 01:41:46 pm »
Kindle (print replica edition) of 3rd edition AoE is now up on both UK and US sites; don't be confused by 2nd ed Kindle, which is there also.

The streaming version, served from the CUP site, will probably come out in another six months or so; it will have links, and a much larger index (plus an index of part numbers).  Those indexes will also be posted on our website, when I've got them done ('nuther month or two, it's a lot of work!)

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #331 on: February 23, 2016, 06:05:03 pm »
Kindle (print replica edition) of 3rd edition AoE is now up on both UK and US sites; don't be confused by 2nd ed Kindle, which is there also.

The streaming version, served from the CUP site, will probably come out in another six months or so; it will have links, and a much larger index (plus an index of part numbers).  Those indexes will also be posted on our website, when I've got them done ('nuther month or two, it's a lot of work!)

paul
Congratulations on now having an official eBook version available! :-+

I tried the "look inside" feature on Amazon and it seems that linking was not implemented at all in this version. Even clicking on a table of contents entry doesn't take you to the designated page. If this is the case on the actual product it's, in my opinion, a real pity, since I believe this is one of the most sought after features in eBooks.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #332 on: February 23, 2016, 06:47:28 pm »
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this is one of the most sought after features in eBooks.
Ahhh, yes.
It's a all too common misconception that e-books were created for the reader's convenience and not the publisher's.

 
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #333 on: March 01, 2016, 01:56:25 am »
Is this documented? I copied it from Winfield Hill reply in Amazon

4th printing most of the errors
5th printing most of the typos


6th printing (hardcover)
7th printing (Kindle)

They haven't had an error reported to us since Dec 4th, 2015, now approaching 3 months.

Quote from: Winfield Hill on February 24, 2016
Hi Bob, Winfield here.

Errors and typos? You must have gotten an old printing. We received hundreds of emails with multiple hundreds of suggestions and we responded by updating the book before each printing.
[ http://artofelectronics.net/errata/ ]

By the 4th printing most of the errors were found and fixed, and by the 5th printing most of the typos as well. We're on the 6th printing (hardcover) and 7th printing (Kindle) now, and we haven't had an error reported to us since Dec 4th, 2015, now approaching 3 months.

At any rate, if you have an older printing, we've updated our errata page so you can select your sort preference, and make a pdf file to print and keep with the book.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #334 on: March 01, 2016, 02:22:05 pm »
We received hundreds of emails with multiple hundreds of suggestions and we responded by updating the book before each printing.
Do I understand right that different printings exists of the 3rs edition?
How can you figure out which printing you have?
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #335 on: March 01, 2016, 03:55:16 pm »
Is this documented? I copied it from Winfield Hill reply in Amazon

4th printing most of the errors
5th printing most of the typos


6th printing (hardcover)
7th printing (Kindle)

They haven't had an error reported to us since Dec 4th, 2015, now approaching 3 months.

Quote from: Winfield Hill on February 24, 2016
Hi Bob, Winfield here.

Errors and typos? You must have gotten an old printing. We received hundreds of emails with multiple hundreds of suggestions and we responded by updating the book before each printing.
[ http://artofelectronics.net/errata/ ]

By the 4th printing most of the errors were found and fixed, and by the 5th printing most of the typos as well. We're on the 6th printing (hardcover) and 7th printing (Kindle) now, and we haven't had an error reported to us since Dec 4th, 2015, now approaching 3 months.

At any rate, if you have an older printing, we've updated our errata page so you can select your sort preference, and make a pdf file to print and keep with the book.

Erm, I've an email from Winfield, dated 30th Dec 2015, acknowledging an error I found sometime between then and the 25th as a newly spotted error. (Figure 5.59 on page 344  - differential outputs from a differential source follower pair connected vice-versa to the rest of the circuit, if anybody's interested).
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #336 on: March 03, 2016, 10:03:48 pm »
To clarify Winfield's comment on errata: Our sharp readers continue to find errors, all of which are corrected in successive printings.  However, for the "Errata" page we list only those that we consider "serious."  For the Kindle version (and the 7th printing, not yet ordered) all errors (serious or otherwise) received through 4 Feb 2016 have been included.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #337 on: March 04, 2016, 03:25:37 am »
I can understand that to keep the main errata brief one may choose to list just the most serious errors. However, in my opinion, many owners of earlier printings, myself included, would like to also have a list of the other errors. Unless I'm missing something regarding the way this is currently being handled, anyone that wants this information will have to buy the latest printing! Is that correct?
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #338 on: March 04, 2016, 04:16:42 am »
I finally got mine! Since I have gone paperless as far as books go, I waited for the Kindle edition to buy it. Kind of disappointed to be honest. Not in the content but in how they handled the Kindle edition.

- $82, it's a bit pricey. Same price as a physical book, makes no sense.

- Format is not supported on my e-paper kindle (2nd edition Kindle I believe). First book I ever ran into that isn't supported by my Kindle.

- On my iPad I can't increase the text size.

- I usually read at night, and black on white can be tiring. I prefer white text on black paper. Can't change that either.

Whatever format they used it's barely compatible with the Kindle app. For $82, the production of the eBook leaves a lot to be desired. Meanwhile the previous edition of the book had no issues.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #339 on: March 04, 2016, 06:07:44 pm »
To clarify Winfield's comment on errata: Our sharp readers continue to find errors, all of which are corrected in successive printings.  However, for the "Errata" page we list only those that we consider "serious."  For the Kindle version (and the 7th printing, not yet ordered) all errors (serious or otherwise) received through 4 Feb 2016 have been included.
Is there any word on Learning the Art Of Electronics for the 3rd edition?   Amazon still says Feb 26/2016 for shipping but that's came and gone and my copy hasn't shipped yet. 
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #340 on: March 04, 2016, 07:27:18 pm »
Got email from Amazon yesterday saying it is delayed but not estimated ship date.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #341 on: March 05, 2016, 07:17:03 pm »
Just got new ship date of  March 21 from Amazon.   :-+
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #342 on: March 05, 2016, 07:22:14 pm »
Is there any word on Learning the Art Of Electronics for the 3rd edition?   Amazon still says Feb 26/2016 for shipping but that's came and gone and my copy hasn't shipped yet.
http://learningtheartofelectronics.com/category/news/
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #343 on: March 05, 2016, 07:24:47 pm »
Just got new ship date of  March 21 from Amazon.   :-+

Sorry!!!

Learning the Art of Electronics: A Hands on Lab Course
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #344 on: March 05, 2016, 08:00:21 pm »
Absolutely the best blend of electronic education and wisdom I have found so far.  I wish I discovered the 2nd Edition while I was in school.  This book should be considered as critically important as your equipment.   :-+

Furthermore, looking forward to the X chapters in the Lab Course; these books are worth every penny, and I have read literally hundreds of technical books.  :popcorn: 
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #345 on: March 05, 2016, 08:09:39 pm »
We use this book in school as a reference book and to reinforce what we learn in class. I wish we could use this as our primary book.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #346 on: March 24, 2016, 06:13:22 pm »
I guess I was asleep at the wheel, and did not realize the Kindle version has now been released.

I bought the 3rd edition hardback in May of last year, and thought I could convince myself to read a physical book--but this book is just too heavy to read!

Bought the 3rd edition Kindle book last night (already had the 2nd edition Kindle book), and it is spectacular. It is the print replica version, but I find this easier to read due to the sheer  number number of tables/diagrams/schematics.

I don't necessarily regret purchasing the physical book, but the Kindle edition is so much easier to read/practical  :-+

Edit: Thought I would add that the print replica still supports searching, highlighting, notes etc.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #347 on: March 25, 2016, 01:16:42 am »
I bought the dead tree version, but honestly, as much as I'd like to actually ready through the whole thing (instead of using it as a reference book at my desk, as I do now) I can't. It's just too damn heavy to lay in bed and read. I guess I've been so spoiled by eBooks. Nothing quite like laying in bed with a library at your disposal.

That said, I'm not forking out another $85 for the privilege of the electronic version of a book I already own. That's absolutely crazy.
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« Reply #348 on: March 25, 2016, 08:43:47 pm »
I bought the dead tree version, but honestly, as much as I'd like to actually ready through the whole thing (instead of using it as a reference book at my desk, as I do now) I can't. It's just too damn heavy to lay in bed and read. I guess I've been so spoiled by eBooks. Nothing quite like laying in bed with a library at your disposal.

I'm so with you on that one. There's somehow something different about reading lying down that makes it easier to absorb what you have in front of you.

At university I developed the habit of lying down to read anything I really needed to get my head around. Usually it was a photocopy of a paper that was sufficiently beyond my current understanding of the topic at hand that it needed all my comprehension and visualisation skills to get to grips with.

I never did that with textbooks until ebook versions became available; simply because most textbooks are two unwieldy to handle lying down. Hence I don't think I ever read a textbook end to end until there were ebooks but now I regularly do so. There are two notable exceptions "The New Science of Strong Materials or Why you Don't Fall Through the Floor" and "Structures" both by J.E. Gordon and both available as Penguin paperbacks in the same size as normal fiction paperbacks.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #349 on: March 25, 2016, 11:04:35 pm »
I bought the dead tree version, but honestly, as much as I'd like to actually ready through the whole thing (instead of using it as a reference book at my desk, as I do now) I can't. It's just too damn heavy to lay in bed and read. I guess I've been so spoiled by eBooks. Nothing quite like laying in bed with a library at your disposal.

I'm so with you on that one. There's somehow something different about reading lying down that makes it easier to absorb what you have in front of you.

Yeah, exactly. I wonder if it has to do with lack of distractions? Nobody's calling or texting you, there's no TV blaring, no kids screaming or dogs barking (or dogs screaming and kids barking).

Another thing I notice is a lot of times whatever I was reading before bed will make an appearance in my dreams. Even if in a vague or distorted way. This leads me to believe that my mind is certainly processing the information while I sleep, so perhaps that's why we retain it so much better, because we're immediately given time to process it.

Either way, I totally concur.
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