The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition

[timofonic]

4th edition will be released on 2040, it will be a brain implant to make you an EE expert able to build populated PCBs with the power of your mind.


But some components will be outdated and you'll need some extra volumes for all details


Each volume will cost 5000000000qubits, the average monthly salary of an high-end engineer. These days it will be a low wage job, mostly all not very qualified jobs will be automated and done by androids.

[Kjelt]

Just a prediction then, lets see in 25 years
[nerd mode on]
Ah lets use the resistor tolerance color band code than:

1st edition  black  first draft no tolerance
2nd edition silver  10% tolerance
3rd edition  gold     5% tolerance

then the 4rd edition will be red  with 2% tolerance
[nerd mode off]

[Kjelt]

My copy has arrived 
Now I read inside that this is the final! Edition, figures these guys must be getting old.

[Blofeld]

My copy has arrived 
Now I read inside that this is the final! Edition, figures these guys must be getting old.

Hopefully not too old to finish the X-Chapter book, or whatever they may call it.

[Smokey]

My copy has arrived 
Now I read inside that this is the final! Edition, figures these guys must be getting old.

Being dead doesn't stop the publishers from releasing new editions in your name.....

http://www.amazon.com/Shigleys-Mechanical-Engineering-Design-McGraw-Hill/dp/0073398209

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Edward_Shigley&prev=search

(Sorry for the translated Wikipedia page.  Best I could come up with)

[jpb]

I made the trek into Cambridge this morning to buy myself a copy from the CUP bookshop. I get a 20% discount as an ex student, also I like to look at physical copies before buying.

I told the lady at the checkout that I had waited over 35 years (my existing copy is the first edition which came out in 1980) - she smiled nervously and humoured me with a suitably bland remark whilst edging to the security button!

I look forward to actually reading it (I've still not read all the first edition - you can't rush these things!)

[schopi68]

Today i got my copy from Amazon Germany.
Is this normal behaviour for Cambridge University Press? The paper is totally warped. For me this is not acceptable for this price. From what i can see on some other postings it looks as other copys does show this behaviour too?

[jippie]

Received my copy op the bible this afternoon, just in time for Easter.

Today i got my copy from Amazon Germany.
Is this normal behaviour for Cambridge University Press? The paper is totally warped. For me this is not acceptable for this price.

Got mine from Amazon Germany too, the pages are a little bit wobbly too, but not as bad. I thought it'd be caused by the humid weather today and I expect it to flatten under weight.

[schopi68]

Got mine from Amazon Germany too, the pages are a little bit wobbly too, but not as bad. I thought it'd be caused by the humid weather today and I expect it to flatten under weight.

Maybe the paper soaked humidity during oversea shipment too. Why couldn't they shrink-wrap the book before shipment? Terrible to think of about hundreds of brand-new books in this shape for the next decades because of such a shipment error.
I do not think that my version will flatten - even during pressing the book with my whole body weight the amplitude does not change.

[8086]

Got mine today from Amazon UK, the pages are wobbly like above.

I don't care though, it's a reference book not a show piece.

[schopi68]

Got mine today from Amazon UK, the pages are wobbly like above.

I don't care though, it's a reference book not a show piece.

Well, for me it's the same as if i bought a scope from Agilent Keysight and when unpacking there is a big scratch over the front side. Yes, i could work with that - but i payed the full price for a new, not a used item. 

[8086]

Got mine today from Amazon UK, the pages are wobbly like above.

I don't care though, it's a reference book not a show piece.

Well, for me it's the same as if i bought a scope from Agilent Keysight and when unpacking there is a big scratch over the front side. Yes, i could work with that - but i payed the full price for a new, not a used item. 

I would care too if I paid thousands for a scope and it arrived with a big scratch on the front; but I paid £59 for a book and the pages are slightly wavy.

Big deal. 

Plus it is new, not used. Not sure why you said that.

[schopi68]

I would care too if I paid thousands for a scope and it arrived with a big scratch on the front; but I paid £59 for a book and the pages are slightly wavy.

Well, slightly is (for me) different that that. From the hundreds of books i bought during the years i never got any in such a shape - and even books i use frequently for many years do not have a water damage like this one. I can accept that damage if i know that this is the standard for this book or the book is sold with a reduced price. But why accepting bad quality for the same price as others get good quality?

Plus it is new, not used. Not sure why you said that.

I just wanted to express that when i pay the price for a new book i do not want do get a book in the shape of a used one. 

[8086]

I guess I am more forgiving of people's small mistakes. As far as I'm concerned I paid £59 for the content of the book, not for perfectly straight pages. I guess we just value different things in a book.

[schopi68]

Well i can understand your point of view too. If it were a computer book with a half-life period of two years i would completely agree with you. But as more a book becomes a long-time reference it's physical value rises for me.

[Macbeth]

Just checked and mine has the wavy pages when viewed side on too. Not something I noticed before and not something that bothers me in the least. The pages are flat enough on reading. To call it water damage is extreme.

My advice to the perfectionists is to not read it and keep it locked in a safe. It will surely gain much value as, for example, numismatists pay a fortune for coins with early production flaws from the mint.

Consider the rare value of this early production run from the printers. Keep a copy of these posts to add to the authentic provenance that your future antique book is the genuine article. 

[schopi68]

Just checked and mine has the wavy pages when viewed side on too. Not something I noticed before and not something that bothers me in the least. The pages are flat enough on reading. To call it water damage is extreme.

so you're lucky to have a smaller damage. It took me one second to open the book to see and feel the waves (~2mm in Amplitude). I've asked a person who's working in a printing office and he agreed to my first impression that this is likely a water damage. It could also be due to production as book printing isn't a "dry" process.

[Grapsus]

Haha this is becoming so anal, maybe we need to build a paper flatness reference with 5 ppm precision ?

[schopi68]

okay.. i see - production quality is not everyone's cup of tea. 

[mtdoc]

Today i got my copy from Amazon Germany.
Is this normal behaviour for Cambridge University Press? The paper is totally warped. For me this is not acceptable for this price. From what i can see on some other postings it looks as other copys does show this behaviour too?

Looks sinusoidal. Think of it as the carrier wave.

[jpb]

I bought mine from the CUP bookshop in Cambridge and, though I didn't notice it at the time, the pages are slightly wavy from the top (though not from the bottom).

I am very fussy about books and papers and so on (I don't like even folding a newspaper) but I really think this can't be described as "water damage" - it is only noticeable when pointed out.

I'd be much more concerned if the pages looked like they might fall out (as I have found with some other books) but they look to be properly bound.

It is not expensive for a hardbound reference book of over a thousand pages and I suspect it may be an artifact of using lightweight paper to keep the weight (and perhaps cost) down.

Perhaps it was a flaw with the paper prior to printing. The printing doesn't seem to be in any way distorted and there is certainly no staining.

Still it is nice to find some one even more fastidious than I am!

It may be an artifact of the binding process. Running my fingers over the page I can feel that they are slightly bumpy in the vertical direction as well so maybe they use hot glue to bind them which then shrinks a bit and puts the pages under slight compression.

[JackOfVA]

Still waiting on my copy to be delivered - ordered 29 Jan 2015 from Amazon, should be here within the next two weeks.

I've seen the wavy paper artifact on some books manufactured in India -- are the AoE 3rd books delivered in Europe manufactured (printed and bound) in the UK or in another country?

[rolycat]

Still waiting on my copy to be delivered - ordered 29 Jan 2015 from Amazon, should be here within the next two weeks.

I've seen the wavy paper artifact on some books manufactured in India -- are the AoE 3rd books delivered in Europe manufactured (printed and bound) in the UK or in another country?

Printed in the United States of America, just like the second edition.

[Kjelt]

I think if you put a heavy stack of books on top of it during a fourthnight it will probably flatten out.
I myself am reading it.

[tggzzz]

I think if you put a heavy stack of books on top of it during a fourthnight it will probably flatten out.

No need: it weight 2.3kg and is therefore sufficiently heavy to flatten itself  - and anything underneath it when it is dropped.

I expect to see a rash of EEs visiting their doctors - because of upper limb strain developed while trying to hold it in a comfortable reading position.