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Offline madires

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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #75 on: January 08, 2017, 01:41:42 pm »
I don't know how accurate this is, but it is interesting. Windows 10 is not on top of the list though being spyware and all. Who would have thought that?  :-DD

One has to be careful with those numbers, because it's apples vs. bananas (not oranges) quite often. The linux distributions come with a ton of applications, Windows doesn't. Take firefox for example. For Windows it's a third party application, so any security issues in firefox aren't counted. Ubuntu comes with firefox, so firefox' security issues are added. Another point is how each OS defines a security issue or its severity.
 
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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2017, 01:44:51 pm »
No I am not talking about a task scheduler in the sense of some scheduled task you make the OS run some software as a service at a predefined time/interval.

We can make a 6 year study out of this OS talk.

For people who has never written or attempted to write their own OS from scratch, have no clue what a operating system for modern computers today are built of, have no idea how many OS architectures there could possibly exist, have no idea how modern computers work internally at a bit level, and how both the bits and the OS glues it all together, I'd suggest to just keep quiet.

But that is just my opinion. I'm not stopping anyone from making a fool out of them selves. :)

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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2017, 01:45:42 pm »
I don't know how accurate this is, but it is interesting. Windows 10 is not on top of the list though being spyware and all. Who would have thought that?  :-DD

One has to be careful with those numbers, because it's apples vs. bananas (not oranges) quite often. The linux distributions come with a ton of applications, Windows doesn't. Take firefox for example. For Windows it's a third party application, so any security issues in firefox aren't counted. Ubuntu comes with firefox, so firefox' security issues are added. Another point is how each OS defines a security issue or its severity.

Yes you are correct, this is why a proper and detailed report on this would be important.
 

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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2017, 02:00:10 pm »
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I just checked few of your posts... It seems you have a really high opinion of yourself, even saying lot of BS.
Great, but what does this have to do with computer security?  :-//

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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2017, 05:19:55 pm »
Security through obscurity. Yep. That absolutely works. :popcorn:

In a system which you personally control it's pretty good. As soon as other people get their hands on it, not so much.

Insecurity is other people.
 

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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2017, 05:22:29 pm »
Security through obscurity. Yep. That absolutely works. :popcorn:

In a system which you personally control it's pretty good. As soon as other people get their hands on it, not so much.

Insecurity is other people.
The fallacious statement was that he (slicendice) thinks he would know he'd been hacked.
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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2017, 10:12:49 pm »


I don't know how accurate this is, but it is interesting. Windows 10 is not on top of the list though being spyware and all. Who would have thought that?  :-DD

Had they spell Ubuntu correctly it could be more appealing.


Linux Kernel as an operating system  :palm:
Interesting how in this chart Windows is the only OS where each version is separated from the others, while for every other OS all their versions are apparently bundled together.
 

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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2017, 11:01:18 pm »


I don't know how accurate this is, but it is interesting. Windows 10 is not on top of the list though being spyware and all. Who would have thought that?  :-DD

Had they spell Ubuntu correctly it could be more appealing.


Linux Kernel as an operating system  :palm:
Interesting how in this chart Windows is the only OS where each version is separated from the others, while for every other OS all their versions are apparently bundled together.

Would be interesting to list the individual vulnerabilities and how easy it is to use them. For Linux there were some vulnerabilities known which could be only used if you have shell access to a system, and of course they were fixed fast. And for Windows there were lots of issues that could be exploited over the internet, and some got only fixed really late, if at all.

They cited CVE details. Found it for Android, 523:

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224

Lots of entries specific to some mobile phones.

Right, Windows 8.1 has 154 entries for 2016:

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/26434/Microsoft-Windows-8.1.html?vendor_id=26

Ok, why didn't they use Windows 10 (172) or Windows 7 (134)? Well, 172 is worse than the 161 from iPhone iOS. I wonder if Microsoft financed this report.

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/17153/Microsoft-Windows-7.html?vendor_id=26
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/32238/Microsoft-Windows-10.html?vendor_id=26

Sum is 460 entries for 2016. Lots of entries usable on any PC.
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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #83 on: January 09, 2017, 03:53:23 am »
One has to be careful with those numbers, because it's apples vs. bananas (not oranges) quite often. The linux distributions come with a ton of applications, Windows doesn't. Take firefox for example. For Windows it's a third party application, so any security issues in firefox aren't counted. Ubuntu comes with firefox, so firefox' security issues are added. Another point is how each OS defines a security issue or its severity.
Firefox is a bad example since Windows comes with IE ;) Advantage Ubuntu.
 

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Re: Computer security bullshit
« Reply #84 on: January 09, 2017, 06:33:58 am »
Thanks FrankBuss, that DB looks great. Huge collection! Awesome!

The bar graph I sent agree with the stats found @cvedetails.com
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