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Re: Youtube DELETED Jordan Pier's Electronics Repair Channel
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2020, 03:12:21 pm »
The doom and gloom in here is astounding.  What exactly do people expect from YouTube? They have to walk a very delicate tightrope balancing the rights of copyright holders vs those of 'creators'; and need to do it at a scale that has never been seen before.

All of the secondary 'media' outlets that offer less oversight are simply going to get their asses sued out of existence for not having their controls, it's just a matter of time.
Most likely the alternative would be based in a country that could care less about the DMCA.
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« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2020, 05:52:59 pm »
The doom and gloom in here is astounding.  What exactly do people expect from YouTube? They have to walk a very delicate tightrope balancing the rights of copyright holders vs those of 'creators'; and need to do it at a scale that has never been seen before.

All of the secondary 'media' outlets that offer less oversight are simply going to get their asses sued out of existence for not having their controls, it's just a matter of time.
Most likely the alternative would be based in a country that could care less about the DMCA.

And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country). Think of what the US did to 'legal online poker', hosted outside of the US.  In the land of the free, it's all blocked

No large media publishing company, who's very income depends on US based views, would want to stop working in the US.
 

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« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2020, 07:51:56 pm »
The doom and gloom in here is astounding.  What exactly do people expect from YouTube? They have to walk a very delicate tightrope balancing the rights of copyright holders vs those of 'creators'; and need to do it at a scale that has never been seen before.

All of the secondary 'media' outlets that offer less oversight are simply going to get their asses sued out of existence for not having their controls, it's just a matter of time.
Most likely the alternative would be based in a country that could care less about the DMCA.

And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country). Think of what the US did to 'legal online poker', hosted outside of the US.  In the land of the free, it's all blocked

No large media publishing company, who's very income depends on US based views, would want to stop working in the US.

The US rules are very simple:  Anything that has even a slight chance of interfering with US corporate profits are automatically a Bad Thing, and will be stamped out.  Other than that, you have extensive freedom to do pretty much what you want.
 

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« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2020, 09:02:48 am »
From 2006 and like Fran Blanche I never came across it.

I did like the Servicing a 1974 Zenith 17" Chromacolor II Color tv 6 videos where he'd spend many hours looking for faults and at the same time trying to conserve and only replace fauly/worn out components. To me it is like mystery in finding the faults and it seems exciting.
 

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Re: Youtube DELETED Jordan Pier's Electronics Repair Channel
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2020, 05:01:50 am »
The biggest issue with YouTube seems to be that they lack a way to grey or white list long established reliable channels. People with a long track record of causing no trouble should be given substantial latitude. Even more so, channels that keep getting content blocked for copyright violation, where an appeal normally gets the content back, should be given a great deal of latitude.

Back in the "old days" you used to get benefits from being a chosen (back then you had to be invited!) monetised priority creator. You got longer video lengths and others tools that the beginners creators didn't. It was something to shoot for.
Now every creator is given everything from day one, and proven long time creators get little to nothing extra at all.
If youtube wanted to turn themselves around in the eyes of creators they begin by instituting protections for established channel.
I mentioned in my video that the CEO should have to sign off on every protected channel termination, and some say that would be too much work. Bullshit. All the channel the bots are trying to kill are the new ones, the spammers, the scammers etc, not established creators. It should be impossible to automatically terminate say a 100k+ channel.
You could still have the existing system were individual videos could get automatically nuked, like if say Jake Paul went beyond usual skitzo in one video. But to nuke an entire channel built up over a decade with no egregious history is just asinine.

I understand what you're saying. But you have to realize the awkward position that places the person tasked with pushing the delete button.

Easy, if it's not illegal under US law then you don't push the delete button. You just have to learn to not giving a flying photon about the blue checkmarks on Twitter.
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Re: Youtube DELETED Jordan Pier's Electronics Repair Channel
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2020, 05:04:34 am »
Dave, you know what you can and cannot say on Y/T. Just imagine what would happen if you woke up one day and thought "you know what....?"

I'd expect them to delete that video. Why should my entire channel get deleted as a result?
 

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« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2020, 06:52:34 am »
Dave, you know what you can and cannot say on Y/T. Just imagine what would happen if you woke up one day and thought "you know what....?"

I'd expect them to delete that video. Why should my entire channel get deleted as a result?

Cos all it takes is a SJW having a bad day* masquerading as a bot with an itchy trigger finger.

Why delete just a video when you have the power to nuke the channel? In our scenario, the creator has indicated a massive change in their world view and a crate's worth of fuck-it attitude. More vids of the same are certain to follow. You'd nip it in the bud.

It's not like a video or a channel is ever deleted:deleted. The word used by y/t should be 'hidden'.

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Re: Youtube DELETED Jordan Pier's Electronics Repair Channel
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2020, 12:30:19 pm »
From 2006 and like Fran Blanche I never came across it.

I did like the Servicing a 1974 Zenith 17" Chromacolor II Color tv 6 videos where he'd spend many hours looking for faults and at the same time trying to conserve and only replace fauly/worn out components. To me it is like mystery in finding the faults and it seems exciting.

I agree, fault finding is like detective work...  fascinating to watch a good detective work, learn something every time!
 

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« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2020, 03:38:00 pm »
Dave, you know what you can and cannot say on Y/T. Just imagine what would happen if you woke up one day and thought "you know what....?"

I'd expect them to delete that video. Why should my entire channel get deleted as a result?

Look, you're the youtube guy not me, so don't beat on me for this. I spent an hour going through some of the YT terms of service - in some respects a winding and roving cacophony of litigious projective tests.

Up front I want to acknowledge that you immediately replied, in several places, some mitigation practices (back up your content, post to more than one place). You also, if I recall correctly, suggested a policy of human intervention before a channel was snuffed - ostensibly to avoid a faulty AI trigger. All good stuff.

I read about a strike system https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802032 and if they were adhering to that system in your hypothetical example, then I would expect them to only delete that one video and not your channel and to notify you.

But, I also read that there are certainly SINGLE case violations that can result in a channel being removed.https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802168?hl=en&ref_topic=9387060

Now, who decides what "severe abuse is" YT or the user? [rhetorical]

What we don't know is why the channel was removed, why the channel was restored, whether there was an email that the channel was removed, whether the removal decision was appealed. Nobody seems to be saying much about those questions.

If he (the channel owner) was a blueberry muffin that looked like a chihuahua to some bad coding, he may not want to go on the offensive about that (blueberry muffins may not want to bite the hand that feeds them).

If he (the channel owner) was ratted out for something that was simply not true, he may not want to go on the offensive about that either.

If it was an "oops, sorry about that", he may feel the same.

As to all the whining about how bad YT is in this thread (and not by you @EEVblog) why isn't there the infamous "if you don't like it, don't use it" or "if you don't like it, start your own" ? All variations on the, "as long as you live under my roof, you will follow my rules".

I propose that the reason is that YT is the biggest game in town and if you want the $$$ and notoriety and audience, that is where you go. If YT is so bad than they will go the way of many others after they have run their course (e.g., AOL).

So, does the whining help make a better product? Does it at least make the whiner feel good?
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Re: Youtube DELETED Jordan Pier's Electronics Repair Channel
« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2020, 04:38:09 pm »
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So, does the whining [about Youtube] help make a better product? Does it at least make the whiner feel good?

In my case, the whining is really just reminiscing about the Internet of old, where ads on Youtube was not a "thing" at all!

And yes,  I have cut my usage of Youtube down to almost nothing.   The ads had the effect of tipping the "marginally interesting" videos into the "not worth spending time on" category, I'd literally rather be doing something else.  Now, I primarily watch videos that are linked from some other site, e.g.  EEVblog videos or search engine results -  I rarely go to www.youtube.com directly.
 

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Re: Youtube DELETED Jordan Pier's Electronics Repair Channel
« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2020, 09:57:46 pm »
Dave, you know what you can and cannot say on Y/T. Just imagine what would happen if you woke up one day and thought "you know what....?"

I'd expect them to delete that video. Why should my entire channel get deleted as a result?

Look, you're the youtube guy not me, so don't beat on me for this. I spent an hour going through some of the YT terms of service - in some respects a winding and roving cacophony of litigious projective tests.

Up front I want to acknowledge that you immediately replied, in several places, some mitigation practices (back up your content, post to more than one place). You also, if I recall correctly, suggested a policy of human intervention before a channel was snuffed - ostensibly to avoid a faulty AI trigger. All good stuff.

I read about a strike system https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802032 and if they were adhering to that system in your hypothetical example, then I would expect them to only delete that one video and not your channel and to notify you.

But, I also read that there are certainly SINGLE case violations that can result in a channel being removed.https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802168?hl=en&ref_topic=9387060

Now, who decides what "severe abuse is" YT or the user? [rhetorical]

What we don't know is why the channel was removed, why the channel was restored, whether there was an email that the channel was removed, whether the removal decision was appealed. Nobody seems to be saying much about those questions.

If he (the channel owner) was a blueberry muffin that looked like a chihuahua to some bad coding, he may not want to go on the offensive about that (blueberry muffins may not want to bite the hand that feeds them).

If he (the channel owner) was ratted out for something that was simply not true, he may not want to go on the offensive about that either.

If it was an "oops, sorry about that", he may feel the same.

As to all the whining about how bad YT is in this thread (and not by you @EEVblog) why isn't there the infamous "if you don't like it, don't use it" or "if you don't like it, start your own" ? All variations on the, "as long as you live under my roof, you will follow my rules".

I propose that the reason is that YT is the biggest game in town and if you want the $$$ and notoriety and audience, that is where you go. If YT is so bad than they will go the way of many others after they have run their course (e.g., AOL).

So, does the whining help make a better product? Does it at least make the whiner feel good?

Yep. But you're reviewing the current rules and forgetting that some creators 'bought in' when those rules were vastly different or in some cases, quite contrary to what they are now.



 

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« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2020, 03:50:07 pm »
Back in the "old days" you used to get benefits from being a chosen (back then you had to be invited!) monetised priority creator. You got longer video lengths and others tools that the beginners creators didn't. It was something to shoot for.
Now every creator is given everything from day one, and proven long time creators get little to nothing extra at all.
Back when I applied to become a YouTube Partner in 2011 and was approved (on my second try -- the first time I applied I was rejected!) I did a video showing all the benefits and special features Partners got back then -- virtually all of which are now either given to all monetized creators, or are gone entirely. Even back in 2011 some of the former Partner benefits were by then universal. I should re-upload the video just for the nostalgic value.

These recent cases of channels being deleted for no reason (Jordan Pier, CraigTube) are definitely due to the "machine learning" algorithm FUBARing. I'm almost certain that no human was involved in the process except to reverse the mistake. YouTube has even admitted as such:

https://youtube-creators.googleblog.com/2020/03/protecting-our-extended-workforce-and.html

"As a result of the new measures we're taking [re: COVID-19], we will temporarily start relying more on technology to help with some of the work normally done by reviewers. This means automated systems will start removing some content without human review, so we can continue to act quickly to remove violative content and protect our ecosystem, while we have workplace protections in place.

As we do this, users and creators may see increased video removals, including some videos that may not violate policies."
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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2020, 11:39:20 pm »
These recent cases of channels being deleted for no reason (Jordan Pier, CraigTube) are definitely due to the "machine learning" algorithm FUBARing. I'm almost certain that no human was involved in the process except to reverse the mistake. YouTube has even admitted as such:

It is such a convenient excuse that I treat it as an admission that they did it deliberately.  Will they make it future policy to have a human review these?  Of course not, therefor it is deliberate.
 

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« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2020, 01:02:52 am »
These recent cases of channels being deleted for no reason (Jordan Pier, CraigTube) are definitely due to the "machine learning" algorithm FUBARing. I'm almost certain that no human was involved in the process except to reverse the mistake. YouTube has even admitted as such:

It is such a convenient excuse that I treat it as an admission that they did it deliberately.  Will they make it future policy to have a human review these?  Of course not, therefor it is deliberate.

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« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2020, 01:41:38 am »
It is such a convenient excuse that I treat it as an admission that they did it deliberately.  Will they make it future policy to have a human review these?  Of course not, therefor it is deliberate.

You may not be correct, but I would need some mighty fine odds to bet against you.

Another way to put it is that YouTube has the authority over their algorithm so they also have the responsibility for what it does.  The dog ate your channel is as bad an excuse for them as it is for a student.
 

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« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2020, 06:10:33 am »
And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country).

Rubbish. No company outside the US, and that has servers outside the US, has any legal obligation at all to abide by a US law like DMCA. It is specifically for US companies and/or servers on US soil.
 

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« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2020, 06:34:48 am »
And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country).

Rubbish. No company outside the US, and that has servers outside the US, has any legal obligation at all to abide by a US law like DMCA. It is specifically for US companies and/or servers on US soil.

Nope, that is BS Dave, you know it, its just theoretical, in real world especially countries which are member of Five Eyes comprise of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, all belong to Uncle Sam.

Too lazy to google, should be easy to find tons of examples, like US FBI that can grab someone in above countries easily, and just bring them back to US, no one at those countries dare to ask question or challenge, nor judge approval needed at all  :-DD. Or should I remind you an Ozzy bloke named Julian Assange ? Or Kim Dotcom (HERE) ? Or US ambassador's wife driving a car ran over a kid in UK and got killed, and she could fly back home at US untouched while escaping UK law >:D, poor Canadians that are enduring retaliation from China which is fair, as their gov. was ordered to act as a thug, to take hostage of Huawei's boss daughter on behalf of again, Uncle Sam, and Canadians to face the consequences alone, and etc.
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« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2020, 08:14:25 am »
And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country).

Rubbish. No company outside the US, and that has servers outside the US, has any legal obligation at all to abide by a US law like DMCA. It is specifically for US companies and/or servers on US soil.

Nope, that is BS Dave, you know it, its just theoretical, in real world especially countries which are member of Five Eyes comprise of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, all belong to Uncle Sam.

Too lazy to google, should be easy to find tons of examples, like US FBI that can grab someone in above countries easily, and just bring them back to US, no one at those countries dare to ask question or challenge, nor judge approval needed at all  :-DD. Or should I remind you an Ozzy bloke named Julian Assange ? Or Kim Dotcom (HERE) ? Or US ambassador's wife driving a car ran over a kid in UK and got killed, and she could fly back home at US untouched while escaping UK law >:D, poor Canadians that are enduring retaliation from China which is fair, as their gov. was ordered to act as a thug, to take hostage of Huawei's boss daughter on behalf of again, Uncle Sam, and Canadians to face the consequences alone, and etc.

Those cases are pure international politics.
If I have a server in Australia or anywhere else outside the US, I am not legally obligated in any way to comply with any DMCA request, nor is any host provider, and you know it.
 

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« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2020, 08:23:29 am »
Those cases are pure international politics.
If I have a server in Australia or anywhere else outside the US, I am not legally obligated in any way to comply with any DMCA request, nor is any host provider, and you know it.

You have not read the Kim Dotcom case, are you ? That is purely business dispute, and no politic here, and FBI has no jurisdiction in NZ what so ever, yet, they treated NZ as one of the US state.  :-DD

Why there is no massive demonstration in Oz on freeing Julian, at least demand a fair and open trial in Oz, I guess no even single soul at Oz dare to organize that movement, or end up in Guantanamo Bay. :-DD

But I understand the width of your POV and paradigm, just live on what you want to believe.

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« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2020, 11:20:10 am »
Those cases are pure international politics.
If I have a server in Australia or anywhere else outside the US, I am not legally obligated in any way to comply with any DMCA request, nor is any host provider, and you know it.
You have not read the Kim Dotcom case, are you ? That is purely business dispute, and no politic here, and FBI has no jurisdiction in NZ what so ever, yet, they treated NZ as one of the US state.  :-DD

I've followed him closely for years and follow him on Twitter, and know all about that case. It's business with enforcement via international politics.

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Why there is no massive demonstration in Oz on freeing Julian, at least demand a fair and open trial in Oz, I guess no even single soul at Oz dare to organize that movement, or end up in Guantanamo Bay. :-DD
But I understand the width of your POV and paradigm, just live on what you want to believe.

WTF, I'm a huge Julian Assange supporter, and once again know a lot about the case, to the point of making a public video supporting him.

But this has nothing to do with the discussion about the legality of DMCA internationally, and you know it. Don't bait me with politics, and don't assume I don't know what's going on with international politics. Not only will you be wrong, but you'll come-a-gutsa.

 

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« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2020, 03:51:30 pm »
And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country).

Rubbish. No company outside the US, and that has servers outside the US, has any legal obligation at all to abide by a US law like DMCA. It is specifically for US companies and/or servers on US soil.

Tell that to the online poker sites (Poker Stars, Party Poker etc), or RojaDirecta that are fully outside of the United States. All of them had domain names seized, and directors indicted, The companies have to walk a delicate line to ensure they're not blocked in the 'land of the free'.  I believe Aruba(?) has an outstanding $1b seizure against the US for breaking WTO rules by locking out various Aruban gambling sites.

Even an fully off-shore YT equivalent would still want to be in the business of selling advertising to US companies, and hence the delicate balance must be obtained, as the US would obtain injunctions against the advertisers etc etc, or seize monies destined for US based content creators.





 

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« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2020, 04:00:10 pm »
And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country).

Rubbish. No company outside the US, and that has servers outside the US, has any legal obligation at all to abide by a US law like DMCA. It is specifically for US companies and/or servers on US soil.

Tell that to the online poker sites (Poker Stars, Party Poker etc), or RojaDirecta that are fully outside of the United States. All of them had domain names seized, and directors indicted, The companies have to walk a delicate line to ensure they're not blocked in the 'land of the free'.  I believe Aruba(?) has an outstanding $1b seizure against the US for breaking WTO rules by locking out various Aruban gambling sites.

Even an fully off-shore YT equivalent would still want to be in the business of selling advertising to US companies, and hence the delicate balance must be obtained, as the US would obtain injunctions against the advertisers etc etc, or seize monies destined for US based content creators.

Basically what you are saying is that the USA can prevent US citizens and businesses from interacting with whatever other country, business, or individual that they see fit? 


 

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« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2020, 01:52:51 am »
And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country).

Rubbish. No company outside the US, and that has servers outside the US, has any legal obligation at all to abide by a US law like DMCA. It is specifically for US companies and/or servers on US soil.

Tell that to the online poker sites (Poker Stars, Party Poker etc), or RojaDirecta that are fully outside of the United States. All of them had domain names seized, and directors indicted

Indicted by whom? And for what?
Once again, this has nothing to do with DMCA jurisdiction, which legally only applies to companies within the US, and servers and other assets that operate within the US.
There are other ways (often arguably illegal) the US government can go after foreign individuals and organisations, but the DMCA is not one of them.
 

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« Reply #73 on: July 27, 2020, 05:43:19 pm »
And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country).

Rubbish. No company outside the US, and that has servers outside the US, has any legal obligation at all to abide by a US law like DMCA. It is specifically for US companies and/or servers on US soil.

Tell that to the online poker sites (Poker Stars, Party Poker etc), or RojaDirecta that are fully outside of the United States. All of them had domain names seized, and directors indicted

Indicted by whom? And for what?
Once again, this has nothing to do with DMCA jurisdiction, which legally only applies to companies within the US, and servers and other assets that operate within the US.
There are other ways (often arguably illegal) the US government can go after foreign individuals and organisations, but the DMCA is not one of them.

The US will do whatever they need to do in order to try and enforce US laws, even if the company is wholly outside of the USA.

Example RojaDirecta.  Their  .COM name was seized by the US as the root .com servers are housed/administered in the USA. For more details, see the Wiki page for the US's  "Operation in Our Sites" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_In_Our_Sites

Example PokerStars (this isn't copyright, but doing business on the internet).  The US seized the domain name, and indicted (in the US) one of the directors.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PokerStars#Domain_name_seizure


 

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« Reply #74 on: July 28, 2020, 08:05:19 am »
And if a country cared less about the DMCA, the US Govt would simply obtain an order to block the site and/or indict the CEO of the company (even if he were out of the country).

Rubbish. No company outside the US, and that has servers outside the US, has any legal obligation at all to abide by a US law like DMCA. It is specifically for US companies and/or servers on US soil.

Tell that to the online poker sites (Poker Stars, Party Poker etc), or RojaDirecta that are fully outside of the United States. All of them had domain names seized, and directors indicted

Indicted by whom? And for what?
Once again, this has nothing to do with DMCA jurisdiction, which legally only applies to companies within the US, and servers and other assets that operate within the US.
There are other ways (often arguably illegal) the US government can go after foreign individuals and organisations, but the DMCA is not one of them.

The US will do whatever they need to do in order to try and enforce US laws, even if the company is wholly outside of the USA.

Example RojaDirecta.  Their  .COM name was seized by the US as the root .com servers are housed/administered in the USA.

There's your problem  :palm:
Again, DMCA does NOT apply outside the US.
Show me one case where someone has been prosecuted under the DMCA act when they don't live in the US and do not have any commercial entity or infrastructure within the US.
 


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