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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2014, 08:49:46 am »
If I was selling stuff at a hamfest (or similar) and didn't want to lug the stuff home again, then I'd be more than happy to give it to someone who had expressed interest in it, asked questions etc. Much better that giving it to someone who'll just try to sell it.

Also better than dumping it, which happens a lot due to the a-fore mentioned wife saying the stuff "has to go"
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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2014, 09:00:49 am »
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then I'd be more than happy to give it to someone who had expressed interest in it, asked questions etc.
Oh, of course. Me to.
But to go there with the attitude "I ask around, act interested, so they give it to me" is (in my opinion) not very nice to the people selling their stuff.
If you want it, pay. If you can't afford it, ask. If the seller rather dumps it than selling it to someone with little money he is an asshole.

I like the more honest way, like the OP.
If he was here in Europe/Germany I'd give him the mentioned Philips-Scope. It has some fault in the PSU (noisy rails, and does the SPSU-Humm), but the rest is ok and working.
 

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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2014, 02:50:38 pm »
I bagged 2 bargains on ebay and ebid last night. No begging needed.

If people are watching Daves video about getting free or cheap stuff and then thinking "I know, he must mean sign up on his own forum and then ask people for free stuff" then they are missing the point of the video, and also are quite naive and have some high expectations.
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2014, 03:26:00 pm »
I bagged 2 bargains on ebay and ebid last night. No begging needed.

If people are watching Daves video about getting free or cheap stuff and then thinking "I know, he must mean sign up on his own forum and then ask people for free stuff" then they are missing the point of the video, and also are quite naive and have some high expectations.

I get the feeling that either, you've been screwed over really bad in the past, or have been on the other end of things and no one wanted to help you out.  I've seen rich people with this same attitude, "I worked really, really hard for my millions and you should too".  You know, sometimes circumstances are beyond peoples control as to why they just don't have the means, even $50.  I'm one of those people but I offered something first because I don't like to ask for things, makes me uncomfortable.  I hope someone helps Tallie out personally.
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2014, 03:27:31 pm »
I bagged 2 bargains on ebay and ebid last night. No begging needed.

If people are watching Daves video about getting free or cheap stuff and then thinking "I know, he must mean sign up on his own forum and then ask people for free stuff" then they are missing the point of the video, and also are quite naive and have some high expectations.

I get the feeling that either, you've been screwed over really bad in the past, or have been on the other end of things and no one wanted to help you out.  I've seen rich people with this same attitude, "I worked really, really hard for my millions and you should too".  You know, sometimes circumstances are beyond peoples control as to why they just don't have the means, even $50.  I'm one of those people but I offered something first because I don't like to ask for things, makes me uncomfortable.  I hope someone helps Tallie out personally.

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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2014, 03:38:19 pm »
I get the feeling that either, you've been screwed over really bad in the past, or have been on the other end of things and no one wanted to help you out.  I've seen rich people with this same attitude, "I worked really, really hard for my millions and you should too".  You know, sometimes circumstances are beyond peoples control as to why they just don't have the means, even $50.  I'm one of those people but I offered something first because I don't like to ask for things, makes me uncomfortable.  I hope someone helps Tallie out personally.

I think you're misunderstanding what I've said.

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2014, 04:01:34 pm »
For a while now, I've considered buying a cheap oscilloscope. I live in the metro area of Atlanta, Georgia.

BK Precision 2522 Oscilloscope - $40
http://athensga.craigslist.org/tls/4256151308.html
theres this one over in "eastside" whatever that is. I assume its in the zone 6 or eav area, maybe l5p. Its a bit shit (only 20mhz) but its the only cheap one ive ever seen come with probes.

eta: if youre going to pass on it, let me know, Im considering picking it up myself.
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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2014, 06:57:24 pm »
I could use it, to convert my drill press to a better motor than the current single phase one.
Input requires 460V three phase power.

I bagged 2 bargains on ebay and ebid last night. No begging needed.

If people are watching Daves video about getting free or cheap stuff and then thinking "I know, he must mean sign up on his own forum and then ask people for free stuff" then they are missing the point of the video, and also are quite naive and have some high expectations.
There's no missing the point. This is the video that lead me here:
The pertinent clip begins at 4:10 and he mentions asking around the eevblog forums specifically at 4:20. Perhaps my expectations were too high; however, I say this not because I haven't been showered with free things but because I never expected to be called a vulture, a beggar, or a charity case. Maybe I'm naive, maybe Dave is too. Despite what you may think, several members have offered to help; the distance between us being the limiting factor. I'm appreciative of them and of others who have offered helpful advice.

BK Precision 2522 Oscilloscope - $40
http://athensga.craigslist.org/tls/4256151308.html
theres this one over in "eastside" whatever that is. I assume its in the zone 6 or eav area, maybe l5p. Its a bit shit (only 20mhz) but its the only cheap one ive ever seen come with probes.

eta: if youre going to pass on it, let me know, Im considering picking it up myself.
I saw that last night. Is it worth it?
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2014, 07:17:16 pm »
My advice here, if everyone is making such a big fuss about getting a purely free one is to
1. pay shipping + a bit extra for one, buy lunch or something, IDK make their time worth it. Engineers love food.
2. Buy something broken and repair it, then it becomes your problem and you've showed interest in actually using it.

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2014, 07:57:25 pm »
Tallie - Ignore the haters. Good luck in your quest. You'll find one.


I don't think I've seen a single positive post from Lurch.

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2014, 10:20:20 pm »
I sent the B&K Precision guy an email but he hasn't responded and the listing has been deleted.
 

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Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2014, 11:35:20 pm »
Set up a saved search on eBay - Dave did a video showing a few near features that help narrow down the search or allow you to see what 'scopes are going for near you ('completed listings').

I got my Hitachi V-223 (excellent scope although no service manual for that specific model, only lesser models) for £15 ($25) buy it now on eBay after watching my saved search for a few weeks. It was fairly close to me (that was one of my search criteria) and pick-up only, which saved me an arm and a leg for shipping. Although I may have been lucky, deals like this crop up every now and then - you just need to know they're there!

Be patient (unless someone here has a scope they're willing to donate, in which case have fun with your 'new' scope!). This sort of strategy also works with other types of test equipment; I've got a saved search for used items matching 'Fluke' which has been useful ;).
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2014, 12:20:49 am »
I'll do that. Thanks for the suggestion.
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2014, 12:35:36 am »
Set up a saved search on eBay - Dave did a video showing a few near features that help narrow down the search or allow you to see what 'scopes are going for near you ('completed listings').

I got my Hitachi V-223 (excellent scope although no service manual for that specific model, only lesser models) for £15 ($25) buy it now on eBay after watching my saved search for a few weeks. It was fairly close to me (that was one of my search criteria) and pick-up only, which saved me an arm and a leg for shipping. Although I may have been lucky, deals like this crop up every now and then - you just need to know they're there!

Be patient (unless someone here has a scope they're willing to donate, in which case have fun with your 'new' scope!). This sort of strategy also works with other types of test equipment; I've got a saved search for used items matching 'Fluke' which has been useful ;).
I just did this as well, thanks for the tip.  I've got five set up so far and figure I've had the patience to wait this long, I can save and wait for a good deal within my limits.
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2014, 12:47:35 am »
I get the feeling that either, you've been screwed over really bad in the past, or have been on the other end of things and no one wanted to help you out.  I've seen rich people with this same attitude, "I worked really, really hard for my millions and you should too".  You know, sometimes circumstances are beyond peoples control as to why they just don't have the means, even $50.  I'm one of those people but I offered something first because I don't like to ask for things, makes me uncomfortable.  I hope someone helps Tallie out personally.

I hope Tallie goes and buys a scope, no matter what age or financial position He is in.
You liquibyte are not asking for charity, but the most people that do (unless they are in a dire food/shelter situation) are not deserving of it because they are trying to take a short cut.  Get what they want with no or less effort.  Any expectation you have that people with extra gear should give it away for free is delusional.

Noone has or should do or expect anything from anyone else (unless their paying taxes for it).  This is how society works.
Even if you gave money to a perfectly legitimate charity how many of them would stop and say "are you sure that you don't need this money?".  They would take every last penny you had in the bank and not look back.  People who are used to charity or welfare also do this because they start to expect it, no effort for reward.

You don't need to have been screwed over in the past either.  You just need to be charitable with your time, money or possessions a few times and watch how people will line up for it and take it with no thanks or second thought and come back for more.

You want to know why millionaires say "I worked for it you should too?"  its because they are teaching a lesson, that with some effort (and not always financial) you can get whatever you need.



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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2014, 02:10:58 am »
You want to know why millionaires say "I worked for it you should too?"  its because they are teaching a lesson, that with some effort (and not always financial) you can get whatever you need.
"whatever you need"---do they need to be a millionaire?

Many millions of people work hard all their life & never become millionaires,or even mildly affluent.

Some of the Millionaire "Entrepeneurs" we are urged to emulate had family money to start with.
Some got their start by cadging "freebies" wherever they could.
Others end up in Gaol.

Of course,if we were all rich,nobody would be rich! ;D
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2014, 05:40:18 am »
This was back from August when I got my $50 Tenma scope. Those Pintek scopes below both sold for $10USD! They are direct clones of the BK Precision scopes of that era.

Cheap scope alert!

20Mhz JDR scope currently at 99 cents, ends 8/9 (Same as my Tenma 72-720 scope)

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-cheap-jdr-20mhz-scope-(us)-ends-80913

40Mhz Pintek scope currently at 99 cents auction ends 8/6 afternoon US

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-cheap-pintek-40mhz-scope-(us)-auction-ends-8613-evening-no-bids-yet/

Another 40Mhz Pintek ending 8/6 afternoon US

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Pintek-40MHz-Dual-Channel-Portable-Analog-Oscilloscope-Model-PS-405-/281145426207?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item417592c11f

2 BK 1522 20MHz scopes $50 each buy it now or best offer.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-2-bk-1522-scopes-$50-each-buy-it-now/
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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2014, 05:53:25 am »
Many millions of people work hard all their life & never become millionaires,or even mildly affluent.

If you think about what we (most of us) who live in first world countries have, and compare it to the stinking rich of 100 years ago, we're better off aside from living in a smaller house on a smaller plot of land and not having jewels.

If we want French food, we don't have to go to France or hire a French chef to be on our staff, we just drive into town and whip out $50-$100 and have a first class meal. But the next day, we want Italian, ok we drive into town again and go to an Italian place.

Do we all need a study filled books from floor to ceiling? Nah, we have a Kindle.

Cars? Most of us have one. Electricity? Yep.

Though we don't have phone sanitizers, but I think they were sent away.
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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2014, 01:18:15 pm »
You want to know why millionaires say "I worked for it you should too?"  its because they are teaching a lesson, that with some effort (and not always financial) you can get whatever you need.
"whatever you need"---do they need to be a millionaire?

Many millions of people work hard all their life & never become millionaires,or even mildly affluent.

Some of the Millionaire "Entrepreneurs" we are urged to emulate had family money to start with.
Some got their start by cadging "freebies" wherever they could.
Others end up in Gaol.

Of course,if we were all rich,nobody would be rich! ;D

Does Tallie need a free scope on his second forum post to start his hobby?
No-ones urging me to emulate them.  People that work to become millionaires are motivated by success.  Coincidentally a similar chemical/neural activity occurs in the brain when someone receives charity (aside from the thanking part it).  So does Tallie need a free scope. To the best of our knowledge Daves video caused that need and created and unrealistic expectation that these things are just lying around unloved everywhere and just by asking you can get one. Dave has far more success and at acquiring free or cheap test equipment than most people here.

I see your point and many people scoff at others accumulated wealth for being greedy.  For me I personally I don't care how much money someone has or where they got it.  There is always going to be wealthy people if they stole it, inherited it or worked harder or brought a lottery ticket.  I believe you create your own success and happiness by working for what you have and taking pleasure in small successes.

So it could sound to some that I'm a mean spirited person.  Well I've volunteered since a young age probably years now of helping people unconditionally with the only reward being sometimes thanked and me knowing I tried my best.  It has taught me that educating, counseling or mentoring people is far more valuable than giving them materialistic items.  I spent half a day volunteering today as it happens (and I'm not talking about forum posts lol).

But look I hate to be the odd guy out with insanely radical ideas.  Lets just everyone post what they want for free. I'll start it.
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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2014, 01:50:25 pm »
I think nothing is wrong by Talli asking for a free scope. Scopes are like Multimeters a product every dumpster-diver has quite a few.
In the last 10 years of my electronic hobby-carrer i had about 8 scopes (the 9th is on it's way) and many additional ons wandered through my hands into the hands of friends, fellow students, family. If i was greedy and didn't give them away I could have a stack of maybe 20. And I only bought one (OK, now the Hantek... two).

And I know several people who have "the right nose for junk" and end with 3-4 scopes during some "reorganization" in their company.

So why not ask? The possibility that someone remembers some old stuff down in the basement is not that low. And as I said, It's a bloody scope not a Network-Analyzer.

He asked kind, polite and I did not have the feeling in the whole thread he "demanded" or expected someone to give him something. I personally was annoyed by the second post which was much more offensive, but not enough to bother writing.
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2014, 02:37:07 pm »
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I personally was annoyed by the second post which was much more offensive, but not enough to bother writing.
Exactly how was what I said offensive to you or anyone?

You know what I find offensive.  People that sit and snipe Ebay auctions because they have tons of disposable income.  People that tell others that don't have the means about what they think in a thread asking for something for free while sitting on nine scopes.  Friends and family are ok but a stranger in need is not?  Exactly what need have you for 9 scopes?  I can see this being necessary for an actual lab but not for one person.  Is it a bragging rights thing?

Tallie, I'm sorry this thread got hijacked in this manner.  I was hoping someone would offer something but instead we've gotten a philisophical debate on the merits of "working hard" by the rich, and what annoys 27 year old Germans.

I'll make you a deal.  If you haven't found something by next Friday, I'll have the guy that I'm trading with ship the scope I'm getting to you instead of me and I'll wait to get one at a later date.  It's not much and doesn't have probes but it may help you get started.  Here's a pic.
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2014, 03:16:09 pm »
You know what I find offensive.  People that sit and snipe Ebay auctions because they have tons of disposable income.  People that tell others that don't have the means about what they think in a thread asking for something for free while sitting on nine scopes.  Friends and family are ok but a stranger in need is not?  Exactly what need have you for 9 scopes?  I can see this being necessary for an actual lab but not for one person.  Is it a bragging rights thing?

Tallie, I'm sorry this thread got hijacked in this manner.  I was hoping someone would offer something but instead we've gotten a philisophical debate on the merits of "working hard" by the rich, and what annoys 27 year old Germans.

I'll make you a deal.  If you haven't found something by next Friday, I'll have the guy that I'm trading with ship the scope I'm getting to you instead of me and I'll wait to get one at a later date.  It's not much and doesn't have probes but it may help you get started.  Here's a pic.

It's peoples prerogative to do what they like since they own it, collect it or enjoy it.  People also snipe for a living and some do repairs and resell, sure its frustrating if you have no cash.  But I'm telling you man.  Take any negative energy and do some boring ass extra job, make a few bucks and you won't care.  Then you can just buy whatever new or when on special and not have to sit looking at those used equipment dealers selling their broken crap to unsuspecting buyers for hours on end.  Once you get to this point the world is your oyster.

Just don't over do it.  Consumerism is bad.
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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2014, 03:39:04 pm »
There was an misunderstanding, I had 9 different in total over the time, but have given much away or sold. I own two analog, one really old digital scope and bought now a new digital.
I offered Tallie one of the analog ones (which has a fault in the PSU, should be repairable, see #5) but shipping to the US is a killer for a 'free' one.

And what's the problem about my age or the country I live in?

And your post shows exactly what I find annoying, you have this demanding attitude Tallie has not. Even if I had 30 scopes, it would be mine and only mine decision to whom I give or sell.
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2014, 04:05:23 pm »
There was an misunderstanding, I had 9 different in total over the time, but have given much away or sold. I own two analog, one really old digital scope and bought now a new digital.
I offered Tallie one of the analog ones (which has a fault in the PSU, should be repairable, see #5) but shipping to the US is a killer for a 'free' one.

And what's the problem about my age or the country I live in?

And your post shows exactly what I find annoying, you have this demanding attitude Tallie has not. Even if I had 30 scopes, it would be mine and only mine decision to whom I give or sell.

I have not demanded anything.  Shit, if anything I offered too.  How am I demanding anything from anybody when I'm willing to give away what I don't have and want myself?  I apologize about the age/location comment, totally irrelevant.
 

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Re: Anyone willing to donate an old, unused oscilloscope to me?
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2014, 04:25:31 pm »
From a simple kind and polite demand and not begging the treat start to be viral and end in a $$$ and poor/rich, instrument collector jealousy, charity/greedy, age/location discussion  :palm:

1/ everybody is free to give or not
2/ everybody is free to collect instrument without the need of comments from other, some people collect stamps, coins and some other girlfriends  :-+
3/ everybody is free to snipe for fun or for living, I think that 0.5 million people live from trading with auctions

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