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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2019, 01:08:01 pm »
Thanks for the heads up!

Some really random lots in there. For example, a RF load, a big weight, and some VXI cards is all one lot! https://www.equipnet.com/auctions/lot-of-test-and-measuring-equipment-listid-608334/

These might be interesting:
The power sensors is probably worth a punt (there's at least two other lots with them in):
https://www.equipnet.com/auctions/lot-of-8-hewlett-packard-8481a-power-sensors-listid-608418/

These 40GHz signal generators are nearly new:
https://www.equipnet.com/auctions/gigatronics-2440c-10mhz-40ghz-microwave-sig-listid-611845/

WOW, a 34420A nanovoltmeter (!):
https://www.equipnet.com/auctions/lot-of-hewlett-packard-33120a-generator-and-h-listid-611903/

I've got to stop buying stuff at auction...
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2019, 04:18:46 pm »
Bah, they want a $400 refundable deposit for new buyers, not enough space on my cards   |O
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2019, 04:50:36 pm »
Bah, they want a $400 refundable deposit for new buyers, not enough space on my cards   |O
They didn't take a deposit from me... although I am yet to enter a bid.... and probably won't as Telford is 150+ miles from me... 300 mile round trip just for some adapters for my old Stag programmer!  :-DD
 

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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2019, 04:59:11 pm »
It'll turn up on ebay with better pictures and a return policy soon enough. Don't sweat it  :-DD
 
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2019, 05:05:02 pm »
Or the guy at Telford Electronics will buy it up and bring it to a radio rally.

The PTS synths are a bit special. Not a normal PLL-type arrangement but some sort of mixer iirc. https://www.febo.com/pages/pts_synth/
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2019, 05:12:55 pm »
Is that the dude who turned up at Newbury with a trailer full which was immediately emptied?
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2019, 06:39:57 pm »
I didn't go to Newbury. But he usually has a heap of fairly decent equipment that's mostly priced too high for the rally pocket.
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2019, 06:53:23 pm »
https://www.equipnet.com/auctions/catalog/rf-testing-auction/1066/

OK... who's hiring the van?

Thanks for that. It makes me glad I've not got some stuff recently.

If I hired a van, I would get the stuff home and find I have nowhere to store it :) Unfortunately my car has rear seats that disappear under the front seats, and you can transport an undismantled  bicycle with it stand up vertically.
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2019, 06:58:58 pm »
I didn't go to Newbury. But he usually has a heap of fairly decent equipment that's mostly priced too high for the rally pocket.

Oh I know the guy. Marconi 2019A - only £250 untested and no way of testing. Same equipment left at the end that was at the start.
 

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2019, 07:26:28 pm »
Quickly skimming throught that lot, I notice...

Now we know why PPAuctions haven't happened recently. Given the state of their barn, that's probably not a bad thing - but seeing these items powered up will push prices up.

11 Solartron 7075 7.5 digit DVMs - with no input cables. The connectors costs £43 one off, and then you need PTFE cable :) Tee hee.

Those Coutant PSUs appear in many badge-engineered forms :)

Enough PSUs to overload a house's mains supply; glad I haven't got many to sell!
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2019, 07:44:45 pm »
...with no input cables. The connectors costs £43 one off, and then you need PTFE cable :)
I know.  Lots of old logic analysers.... but what's the point without the pods.  Shame really.
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2019, 07:56:49 pm »
I think t his is my favorite item...

 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2019, 08:00:20 pm »
Looks like a HeNe laser power supply, I have several of the Melles Griot versions in the same Pac-Tec enclosure as well as a few that I built myself. Inside is nothing more than a standard "brick" and a fuse and wiring.
 

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2019, 08:08:16 pm »
Looks like a HeNe laser power supply, I have several of the Melles Griot versions in the same Pac-Tec enclosure as well as a few that I built myself. Inside is nothing more than a standard "brick" and a fuse and wiring.
I was joking.  Looks like a box with a Green Light and a Switch.  You are correct it is laser PSU.  :)
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2019, 09:20:25 pm »
Why do the £1 start prices change to silly prices if you choose a manufacturer?

A quick look at some items show BAE stickers (including those Solartron meters), probably came from the BAE systems in Telford.

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2019, 09:41:44 am »
There are some expensive items at the end (with no sort criteria) but they are located in Raisio, FIN so that is definitely a bit far... Although a trip up North might make for a northern lights experience... You can imagine a husky sled ride with a few old Tektronix scopes on the back heading into the blizzard.

Maybe a manufacturer sort brings the FIN things to the fore.

I saw a Data I/O programmer in one of the bundles too..
 Really must stop buying EPROM programmers... Must be due to nostalgia as I really have enough!
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2019, 09:55:18 am »
...with no input cables. The connectors costs £43 one off, and then you need PTFE cable :)
I know.  Lots of old logic analysers.... but what's the point without the pods.  Shame really.
If this stuff has come from an operation like BAE Telford this is business as usual. An operation shuts down. Someone with little knowledge gathers all the expensive looking boxes together. All the documentation, software discs, accessories and other material needed to keep the expensive looking boxes useful goes straight in the bin.
 

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2019, 10:04:16 am »
Yep. What's even worse is when you get cable cutters.

I saw an HP 8405A recently which had the probes and mains lead cut off |O. The probes are fixed to the unit but the mains lead was IEC socketed so I don't even begin to understand the level of retardedness that went into that.

About 20 years ago I saw a company do that to PCs. They shut the office power off. Didn't even unplug the stuff, just cable cut the lot. They were trying to shift 100 or so monitors with the VGA cable cut to the box.
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2019, 12:33:57 pm »
I think I've seen the Raisio, FIN units for auction before. The usable stuff (CMW500s with GNSS/Bluetooth/Wifi) have gone, now there's CDMA, GPRS and LTE R8 ones left.

It's 160km from my home and only 60km from our electronics assembly house, so I might pay a visit.
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2019, 01:56:15 pm »
Bah, they want a $400 refundable deposit for new buyers, not enough space on my cards   |O

It is also worth noting the rubric...

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***Removal & Loading fees are also noted where provided by the vendors. Please see item description for more details.***

It is the buyer’s responsibility to pay for the removal, packing, shipping, and/or insurance, as required, on items won at the Auction. All items must be removed within the specified removal period or shall be deemed abandoned and resold by EquipNet, Inc.

Please be sure to read the Listing description carefully as ALL items sold are subject to a handling fee.

If anyone knows the likely charge, please let us know! I've asked but it is too early to expect a reply.
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2019, 07:59:38 pm »
6x Tektronix TM501, 6x TM502A and 2x TM503, but no plug-ins?
16x HP 85660A Spectrum Analyzer's and 20x HP 85662A Spectrum Analyzer Displays, but no mention of the two cables that join them together.
34x HP 436A power meters and not a single sensor cable.
I wonder if the cables are located in the dumpster, round the back of the auction house?
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2019, 10:39:37 am »
Yes, thanks for the notification.

BUT

After registering they send a confirmation email, with your password in the clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just how much do you trust them?
 

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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2019, 10:41:34 am »
fucks sake  :palm:
 

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2019, 10:54:46 am »
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After registering they send a confirmation email, with your password in the clear

JOOI, how else could/should they do it? Assuming your contact is via email, anyone that can intercept your email will be able to log in just as you can. They would need a second channel in order to split the login details to get around that. Would be better to get the login sorted before taking the money, though :)
 

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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2019, 11:05:32 am »
Usual:

Option one:

1. Fill in registration form in / get sent activation email.
2. Send you a one time link via email.
3. Click that
4. Enter your password.

Option two:

1. Fill in registration form with password.
2. Job done.

Sending you the password in plain text is NEVER acceptable.
 

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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2019, 04:45:19 pm »
The one-time link via email is the same as sending the password. The first thing you do on first login is change it.
 

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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2019, 11:57:43 am »
No it's not.  If they are sending you your password in plain text, it means that they are storing your password somewhere in plain text. They shouldn't ever be able to know what your password is.

Explained here:



 

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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2019, 03:41:05 pm »
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it means that they are storing your password somewhere in plain text

Not necessarily :)

They could make up a password, paste it into your email, paste it into their database as a new password (fully encrypted, salted, hashed and grilled), and the only plain-text copy is in the email.

To be clear, that video is of an existing password. We are talking about a non-existent new password being created. Completely different things.
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2019, 11:57:20 am »
It seems that the items have been updated with starting prices.  I don't see any takers yet... all zero bids so far.
 

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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2019, 12:25:45 pm »
The bidding is not open yet, from what I can see. It starts tomorrow morning.
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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2019, 10:06:21 am »
The auction is open, I have an email saying I'm approved to bid, the equipnet FAQ states "You can make an offer by logging in and clicking the green Make an Offer button on the equipment’s listing page and following the instructions.".  I can't see any green button.

Any suggestions?

(I've contacted equipnet, too soon for a reply, but I'm pessimistic about getting a reply)
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« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2019, 10:10:28 am »
I am tempted to bid but there are no instructions regarding collection and or shipping. Specifically it does not state that collection is possible. I am a bit loath to enter into a contract where some of the contract conditions are missing?
 

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« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2019, 12:46:42 pm »
Their website seems confused.  Stated prices seem random. And at present (12:46 GMT) I can only see the 40 items held in Finland!
 

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« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2019, 12:48:40 pm »
Does anyone understand this auction?

All suddenly changed from a simple list of lots, now there are prices all over it, £200 for a couple of empty Tek 7603s anyone?

I have repeatedly emailed to ask how ti works, did get one phone call back but all the promised followup hasn't appeared.

Bit bizarre if you ask me.

No UK phone number? Read the bumf and they pride themselves on being responsive and really good guys. So far they haven't even got to the start point.

 

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« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2019, 12:49:39 pm »
Yes, I also got just the 40 items in Finland, did something and the UK lots appeared, with really strange pricing.
 

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« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2019, 01:02:35 pm »
It was working yesterday, with starting prices listed for all items. Now I can't get a full list - still stuck on Finland!
Just checked browser history.  They changed auction number today from 1062 to 1066.  1062 still exists with -49 (yes, minus 49) listings..
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« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2019, 01:23:12 pm »
Well, that's that then. 

Please be advised, the seller for the Lots in Teleford, UK had some last minute adjustments and the items were removed from this sale. They will be available at a later date. We apologize for the inconvenience.

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« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2019, 01:36:27 pm »
Scenes from inside the organisation earlier:

 
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« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2019, 01:39:52 pm »
This feels like one of those stories that doesn't end well. 
 

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« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2019, 02:39:05 pm »
Well, that's that then. 

Please be advised, the seller for the Lots in Teleford, UK had some last minute adjustments and the items were removed from this sale. They will be available at a later date. We apologize for the inconvenience.

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Well, I can still access the items and "place bid" and "auto proxy" buttons have appeared. Example: https://www.equipnet.com/auctions/hewlett-packard-54520a-oscilloscope-listid-608039/?show=y&auctionId=1066

But that might be because I bookmarked some items.

For that and because they emailed me my username and password (en clair, naturellement):




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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2019, 10:53:41 am »
I just got this email:

Please be advised that the Telford, UK assets that were originally scheduled for sale on 11/26/2019, that were removed from event - have now been rescheduled for sale on 12/4/2019. Copy the URL below or navigate to EquipNet.com/auctions and click on the calendar link for event 1083 Large Quantity of Electronic Testing Assets from Leading Manufacturer of ETM Equipment auction: https://www.equipnet.com/auctions/teleford-etm-auction/1083/

we'll have to wait till then....
 

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« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2019, 11:16:51 am »
I received that email as well. At a quick glance it appears everything is the same except the auction number.

I've asked, again, about any lift-out fees and whether collection in person is possible. Too early to expect a response.
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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2019, 11:32:36 am »
I noticed a couple of people commenting about the £400 refundable deposit. I'm reliably informed that the £400 deposit does not apply for this particular auction.

Regards postage/collection
 - Collection from Telford is possible, you will be given a contact name and number to arrange collection.
Alternatively you have 2 options:
1 - You can arrange a courier to pickup the items at the defined address in Telford
2 - Equipnet can arrange their couriers to pickup/deliver (I've no idea on costs I'm afraid. I guess it will vary depending on size/weight/number of items)

One more thing, if you registered for the original auction, you will need to re-register for the new auction dates.

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« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2019, 11:42:54 am »
Scenes from inside the organisation earlier:

I laught 3 solid minutes, no joke. Thank you.
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« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2019, 10:38:19 am »
There seem to be some bids now.

Is anyone likely to buy a few things and collect in person?  If so, I would like to talk to you!
 

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« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2019, 05:11:50 pm »
There seem to be some bids now.

Is anyone likely to buy a few things and collect in person?  If so, I would like to talk to you!
There are a few bids, but very few. There is only a 2 day window for people to bid. That seems an odd choice. Its like they don't even want to sell. :)
 

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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2019, 05:20:10 pm »
There seem to be some bids now.

Is anyone likely to buy a few things and collect in person?  If so, I would like to talk to you!
There are a few bids, but very few. There is only a 2 day window for people to bid. That seems an odd choice. Its like they don't even want to sell. :)

I don't think the window is the problem. The short-notice resurrection just before Christmas might be an element.

The other point is that it isn't far off a tender auction: all bidding ends simultaneously, and there's no popcorn bidding. That restricts the ability to "buy more items to fully use the budget" strategy.

So, how many businesses are going to be bidding on some of the probably broken stuff there?
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« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2019, 05:51:13 pm »
There seem to be some bids now.

Is anyone likely to buy a few things and collect in person?  If so, I would like to talk to you!
There are a few bids, but very few. There is only a 2 day window for people to bid. That seems an odd choice. Its like they don't even want to sell. :)

I don't think the window is the problem. The short-notice resurrection just before Christmas might be an element.

The other point is that it isn't far off a tender auction: all bidding ends simultaneously, and there's no popcorn bidding. That restricts the ability to "buy more items to fully use the budget" strategy.

So, how many businesses are going to be bidding on some of the probably broken stuff there?
I think most of the stuff is so old the market is largely amateurs. Exceptions being things like the simple power supplies, which are kinda timeless.
 

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« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2019, 09:12:09 pm »
I noticed a couple of people commenting about the £400 refundable deposit. I'm reliably informed that the £400 deposit does not apply for this particular auction.

Regards postage/collection
 - Collection from Telford is possible, you will be given a contact name and number to arrange collection.
Alternatively you have 2 options:
1 - You can arrange a courier to pickup the items at the defined address in Telford
2 - Equipnet can arrange their couriers to pickup/deliver (I've no idea on costs I'm afraid. I guess it will vary depending on size/weight/number of items)

One more thing, if you registered for the original auction, you will need to re-register for the new auction dates.
I just created a login ID, but when I went to "register for auction" they wanted $400 from a credit/debit card. For now, I haven't registered.

Update: This morning I got an email saying I am regustered, without me paying the $400, and it seems I can now bid.
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« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2019, 10:40:46 pm »
I think most of the stuff is so old the market is largely amateurs. Exceptions being things like the simple power supplies, which are kinda timeless.
I agree. Pretty crusty.  If you are local and starting out then it could be worth it... I have a Dana counter, HP Logic Analyser etc..  and it works for me.  You just need a big bench!  :)
 

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« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2019, 03:31:05 pm »
OK I have decided not to bother...

If I was going to bid I would...

#64 Waveform Monitors... rather like those
#137 Bus Exerciser  No idea what it does but I like the flashing lights
#141 Who doesn't love a Data IO Universal Programmer
#184 Logic Pattern Generator  a classic from the 1979 HP catalog... well worth a tear down
#272 More modules for my Stag programmer
#288 Another Stag Z module and some very expensive looking FET probes
#363 Misc Equipment... well who doesn't love a pile of misc junk

Feel free to buy any of these and flog them to me on EBAY

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« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2019, 07:26:31 pm »
It'll turn up on ebay with better pictures and a return policy soon enough. Don't sweat it  :-DD

Yeah, uh, I may have bought, you know, one or two hundred items. So there's a fair chance that stuff will end up on the 'Bay.

That being said, I'll have to arrange transportation for this stuff. So if some of you bought something and you can't find a local Good Samaritan to help you out, I'll be happy to.

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« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2019, 07:41:19 pm »
A lot of stuff went cheaply; I don't know how much I've bought since some of it was "yellow", i.e. below minimum but vendor might acquiesce. In that specific case they would be a twat not to!

I didn't spot any bids for the stag programmer stuff. I wonder if it will be tipped.

More sane than I expected. There was 5 minute popcorn bidding, despite there being no mention of it. A couple of days ago, the end time marked on each item was the auction end time. That mutated to a staggered end time.

Less sane that I expected. The "you have been outbid" emails were late. I'm going to ask them about the discrepancy between the £71 and £80 in the screenshot below.

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« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2019, 07:49:06 pm »
+1 for hoping yellow will be green.. Happens most of the time, though. Suppose it depends on the seller but still.

Also: never trust mails to warn you in time. And that 71/80£ stuff is seriously weird.

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« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2019, 09:02:19 pm »
Overall they didn't seem to shift a large percentage of what they had.
 

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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2019, 11:41:09 pm »
Also: never trust mails to warn you in time.

Of course. But this is the only online auction where I've noticed a delay, and it isn't even as if there were a lot of bidders.
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« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2019, 12:16:35 pm »
Good God.. *all* my pending items have been declined!

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« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2019, 12:30:06 pm »
Their customer service is awful, I can't get anybody to reply to emails. I paid my invoice yesterday via wire transfer, "my equipnet" is still showing as I need to pay my invoice. Have they made you a counter offer at all for the pending items ?
 

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« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2019, 12:50:23 pm »
Me to, none of the yellow items accepted.

Mind you, for the one green item I have paid the invoice, so now have to drive 250 miles to collect one item costing £5.

I am not sure I understand their business model, what are they going to do with the unsold items now, another auction?

 

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« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2019, 01:04:41 pm »
My single "yellow" item was declined too. I've sent email asking how much the vendor would accept.

I did a wire transfer Monday morning. It hasn't shown up on the accounts page yet.

Strangely there are two entries on the my purchases page, one for £X, one for £Y, Y<<X. The PDFs are identical and for £X+Y, which is the amount in the emails and the amount I transferred.
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« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2019, 01:08:42 pm »
Following this one. Interesting. I bet what's going to happen is Equipnet didn't get as much cash on the books as they promised to the upstream clearance dudes and they're duking it out at the moment and ignoring the clients.

This will no doubt be two people who don't actually know what any of the kit is in a rented office somewhere in rural backwater industrial estate who spend 50% of their time outside smoking.
 

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« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2019, 01:39:14 pm »
They've just confirmed my payment, so looks like they are slowly working through it.
 

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« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2019, 02:16:27 pm »
They've just confirmed my payment, so looks like they are slowly working through it.

Mine too. Haven't received the collection instructions yet.

My enquiry about my yellow item has been forwarded to the "auctions department".

I concur with bd139's assessment w.r.t. "discussions" with the client. IMHO the client shouldn't have pulled the auction in the first place!
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« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2019, 04:13:00 pm »
Just had a phone call from Equipnet w.r.t. my "yellow" item; seller is willing to consider offers.

Naturally I asked the seller's boundary for yellow/green. Answer was a bit vague, almost 4* my bid. I said that, since item seen unpowered it was quite a risk, so upped my bid to half the nominal minimum. They will get back.

We'll see - but it might be worth sending an email to equipnet about your items that were declined.
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« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2019, 07:31:03 pm »
It seems that Equipnet have got caught between the buyers, us, and a rather dim seller, who?

I get 45p mile travel money so I will have a nice slow drive across the country, A5 looks the best bet, to collect my lot.

I got the impression that whoever was lotting and talking to the seller knew nothing about electronics, I mean, HP 8005A  pulse gens, from the 1960's, the 7603's split form the plug ins, the ancient logic analysers. Oh well I shan't be bothering except at the prices I bid.


 

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« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2019, 07:56:27 pm »
It seems that Equipnet have got caught between the buyers, us, and a rather dim seller, who?
...
the 7603's split form the plug ins

ISTR seeing BAe on something, but that might be a faulty neuron, and there could be an intermediary. Owners often think things are more valuable than other people.

As for lotting, that's a strange art. My mother wanted to sell many small pieces of glassware collected by my father. The auctioneer decided to group them according to colour. It worked as well as anything.
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« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2019, 08:40:55 pm »
ISTR seeing BAe on something, but that might be a faulty neuron, and there could be an intermediary.
Quite a few pictures had GEC clearly visible, so the stuff is probably from a GEC site that was absorbed by BAe.
 

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« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2019, 08:52:28 am »
Just had another phone call from equipnet, asking if I will pick it up. Yet another person will contact me to arrange details.

Pickup is unlikely to be before Christmas, due to the volume of stuff to shift.
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« Reply #69 on: December 13, 2019, 09:01:44 am »
I'm allergic to hassle. This company is hassle.
 

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« Reply #70 on: December 13, 2019, 09:36:04 am »
If this gear is in Telford and the auctioneer will accept proxy collections I may be able to pick up and meet people at a reasonable distance for cost of fuel?
 
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« Reply #71 on: December 13, 2019, 09:40:09 am »
I'm allergic to hassle. This company is hassle.

It isn't entirely clear how much the source is Equipnet or the company with the equipment. Pulling the auction at short notice tends to indicate the latter. Either way, equipnet haven't shielded the punters.

TBH I'd rather wait until after Christmas; too much to do before then - I keep having Life Thrust Upon Me.
 
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« Reply #72 on: December 13, 2019, 10:37:15 am »
Just had a phone call from Equipnet w.r.t. my "yellow" item; seller is willing to consider offers.

Naturally I asked the seller's boundary for yellow/green. Answer was a bit vague, almost 4* my bid. I said that, since item seen unpowered it was quite a risk, so upped my bid to half the nominal minimum. They will get back.

We'll see - but it might be worth sending an email to equipnet about your items that were declined.
That's good advice regarding the 'yellow' items.
Just heard that Equipnet have sent off 100+ ‘yellow’ bids to the seller.
Yellow bidders will hear more the start of next week.
 

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« Reply #73 on: December 13, 2019, 12:38:06 pm »
Deadline for yellow bids is apparently next week wednesday.

I think I'm gonna have the green ones picked up already. If anyone needs a hand in picking up and forwarding, now is the time.

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« Reply #74 on: December 13, 2019, 01:57:27 pm »
I've dealt with EquipNet more times than I'm willing to admit (greets from your local TEA), and I've had a reasonable/good experience so far. I prefer them slightly over Go-Dove, but to be honest it doesn't make a big difference once the gear arrives and the money is gone. :)

Yes, the "yellow" system sucks. I've been lucky with this a few times - in 2017 I've bought a couple of NI PXIE-5645R Vector Signal Transceivers, reserve was $2000 each, and I was highest bidder for $400 each. They asked me if I'm willing to pay the $2000, I said "no, that's too much and they are sold as-it", and they accepted and I got them for $400. Other times yellow items just disappeared.

Anyway - in the off-chance that someone from here bought the stack of 7 N6733B (I have no idea why they would sell them as one pack; who would ever need 7 of those?) - I'd be very interested in sharing/splitting if someone wants to recover costs.
 

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« Reply #75 on: December 13, 2019, 04:43:21 pm »
Anyway - in the off-chance that someone from here bought the stack of 7 N6733B (I have no idea why they would sell them as one pack; who would ever need 7 of those?) - I'd be very interested in sharing/splitting if someone wants to recover costs.

One of my yellow lots. So, PM me on Wednesday to figure out if I got them or not. As to who would need them: one who'd be interested to sell them for a profit ;)

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« Reply #76 on: December 20, 2019, 03:28:34 pm »
Any response from Equipnet on the N6733Bs yet?

(Background why I'm interested: I'm currently reverse-engineering the serial protocol that is used to control them - the mainframe uploads the FPGA bitstream, then talks to the modules with a ~12 MHz SPI bus. This is interesting because knowing the protocol it would be feasible to build a DIY mainframe; aside from the bulk input of 48V, everything else is digital and can be driven by a microcontroller or FPGA easily. I have some collection of modules - from simple ones to SMUs - but I want to practice on a cheap one first because I don't know if it's possible to blow them up by programming them incorrectly.)
 

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« Reply #77 on: December 20, 2019, 04:12:08 pm »
Any response from Equipnet on the N6733Bs yet?

No response on my "yellow" items, so far.
No info on pickup time/location either.
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« Reply #78 on: December 21, 2019, 08:32:12 pm »
I was told "10am -4pm on the 6th Jan 2020 or 9-4pm on the 7th Jan 2020." for pickup.

Nothing on yellow bids yet, even though I was promised a reply on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

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« Reply #79 on: December 23, 2019, 09:13:58 am »
I offered to increase my ‘yellow’ bid up to the buyers reserve.
I have just received email confirmation that my improved ‘yellow’ bid has been accepted.
Logging into ‘My EquipNet’ the invoice is there.
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« Reply #80 on: December 23, 2019, 02:49:26 pm »
@tmbinc the bid on the N6733Bs was one if the few that were accepted. PM me if you still want one..

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« Reply #81 on: January 02, 2020, 06:21:51 pm »
Has anybody got full information w.r.t. collection from these turkeys?

After far too much prompting, the best I have is
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Hi,

I will be on site on the 6th January, I have availability on the 6th in the afternoon and on the 7th pretty much all day.
Please let me know what time and date is convenient for you.

Many thanks,
Lewis

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Subject: Re: EquipNet Auction 1083 - Invoice x

Please advise when and where these lots can be collected.

Please respond by email, not phone.

Thanks.


On 31/12/19 12:09, Peter Harris wrote:
> Hello Tom,
> My colleague, Lewis Maggs will be co- ordinating this collection and I believe he will be on site from the 6th January.
> I just contacting him then or dropping him an email so the collection can be scheduled.
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> Equipnet on site Rep ;
> lmaggs@equipnet.com t/no 07804 048979

That partial info came after I sent a text to that number.

I encourage a plague of emails/texts to Maggs, to try to get the message through.
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« Reply #82 on: January 02, 2020, 06:53:19 pm »
Ask for Lewis Maggs at reception.
Keysight Technologies building.
Halesfield 7 Road,
Telford.
TF7 4QL
I hope to arrive between 12:00 and 1:00pm on Mon 6th.
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« Reply #83 on: January 02, 2020, 08:46:57 pm »
Ask for Lewis Maggs at reception.
Keysight Technologies building.
Halesfield 7 Road,
Telford.
TF7 4QL
I hope to arrive between 12:00 and 1:00pm on Mon 6th.
If we bump into each other, I'll buy the TEA.

Thanks. So far he has confirmed the road and postcode, but not the building!

We won't meet up; I'm out of action with a distal biceps rupture :( That's going to dent my ability to shift stuff at Harwell hamfest etc :(
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« Reply #84 on: January 03, 2020, 07:50:37 am »
Ouch. Did that about 20 years ago. Hope you recover soon. That’s also going to affect my wallet at Harwell as there will be no one to steal stuff before I get to it :-DD
 

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« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2020, 07:26:08 pm »
Collected my two Auction Lots today.
Apparently only 16% of the Auction Lots sold during the initial December auction.
It’s likely that the remainder will go into a second auction, possibly around February 2020. Watch this space.
 

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« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2020, 11:25:57 pm »
I've had a quick look at the two lots I bought; my "yellow" offer wasn't accepted.

All the items I bought are functional, but I haven't checked the calibrations.

And thanks, Mr PB. You are a gent that made my life noticably less complicated :)
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« Reply #87 on: February 05, 2020, 11:00:26 am »
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« Reply #88 on: February 05, 2020, 11:15:58 am »
Such professionals  :palm:
 

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« Reply #89 on: February 05, 2020, 12:00:41 pm »
How do the sealed bids work?  Is there still a reserve?
 

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« Reply #90 on: February 05, 2020, 12:18:28 pm »
How do the sealed bids work?  Is there still a reserve?
I don't see any reserves. They would have to be listed item by item, so they shouldn't be hard to find.

I wonder what the rationale might be for moving from an auction to sealed bids on a long list of low value things which didn't attract a single bid last time around? Is this a common practice based on a piece of psychology I'm not seeing?
 

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« Reply #91 on: February 05, 2020, 12:39:48 pm »
How do the sealed bids work?  Is there still a reserve?
I don't see any reserves. They would have to be listed item by item, so they shouldn't be hard to find.

I wonder what the rationale might be for moving from an auction to sealed bids on a long list of low value things which didn't attract a single bid last time around? Is this a common practice based on a piece of psychology I'm not seeing?

Simplest explanantion is they need to shift the stuff, and will accept the most convenient offer (which might not be the highest).

Lots of stuff was previously unsold - a real clusterf*ck.
Some lots look like they have been combined, bizarrely.
Lots of PSUs, Tex 4xx, 22xx, 24xx scopes, multimeters.
Lots of stuff I might like and might have bought before[1], but haven't got room for, and my packet would probably be too low.

The sealed bid mechanism is http://www.equipnet.com/data/media/246589_Auctions_SealedBidHelp_2020.pdf
You create a "bid packet" which looks like it allows multiple lots, and give your price for the packet.
Don't know if you can have more than one bid packet.
Don't know how they choose between "overlapping" bid packets; probably manually.

[1] the stuff I did buy all worked reasonably well
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #92 on: February 05, 2020, 07:59:09 pm »
- If you need stuff to match and don't want to end up with, oh, just a random example, the RF end of an SA without the display. Or a machine without the probes. Or...
- If you need to buy a lot of stuff to amortize the logistics and don't want to end up with a few low value items while missing out on the money shot.

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« Reply #93 on: February 05, 2020, 08:10:04 pm »
- If you need stuff to match and don't want to end up with, oh, just a random example, the RF end of an SA without the display. Or a machine without the probes. Or...
- If you need to buy a lot of stuff to amortize the logistics and don't want to end up with a few low value items while missing out on the money shot.

The second point is true for any auction.

The first point can be true for any auction, but is more likely to be a problem with this style of auction. I don't know whether that encourages high or low bids.
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« Reply #94 on: February 05, 2020, 08:12:53 pm »
This new approach suits me... I can place a single bid for everything I am interested in and then I either lose... No problem or win... Big drive to collect.

I'll decide for sure nearer the time.
 

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« Reply #95 on: February 06, 2020, 08:18:17 am »
18% buyer premium seems a lot, and then 20% VAT on top of that.
 

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« Reply #96 on: February 06, 2020, 09:29:40 am »
18% buyer premium seems a lot, and then 20% VAT on top of that.
18% seems a lot, but if these lots end up going for very low prices, like the original auction, its not very much per transaction. The auction company has to run a business out of this.
 

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« Reply #97 on: February 06, 2020, 05:53:14 pm »
16, 18 or even 20% are quite common.

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« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2020, 06:17:42 pm »
Yeah true fair enough. A lot of the items failed to make reserve or even attract any bids at all though. So 18%, on top of a price that people already don't seem to be prepared to pay feels a lot. that's not perhaps the fault of the auction house though.

I'm not very familiar with buying from these sorts of auctions.
 

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« Reply #99 on: February 21, 2020, 11:26:20 am »
I don't understand the bid packet system... there doesn't seem to be a way of editing, changing etc?

Has anybody had any luck submitting bids?
 

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« Reply #100 on: February 22, 2020, 09:54:43 am »
Well, first you have to set up an account with Equipnet.
Then you log into your Equipnet account.
This allows you to “Add to your Bid Packet”
You can edit your “Bid Packet” at will. (Including 'add lot, delete lot and enter an amount').
You submit your bid packet to Equipnet, prior to the 13th March, as your final instruction to them.
Packets will be reviewed at the deadline and buyers will be notified within Five (5) business days.
Invoices Will be Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020. All invoices must be paid within (5) days.

I have noticed that the “Bid Packet” appears to be in US ($) currency.
I have queried this with Equipnet and they have confirmed that bidding is in $ but that payment (for UK bidders) will be in GBP (£).
They do the currency conversion, adding 18% buyers fees and a further 20% VAT and invoice you accordingly. Caveat Emptor.
Shipping charges are additional, although by prior arrangement, you can collect (on their specified date) during the working week.
Yes, it’s somewhat confusing!

EDIT: It appears that Equipnet have made a complete dogs breakfast of the bidding currency.
Within the Bid Packet, each individual item appears to suggest that you are bidding in $'s.
However, the running total indicates that the numerical value of the currency you just entered, was in GBP £!  (I guess that international bidders are also bidding in GBP £)?
The currency section of the sealed bid software, is a load of rubbish.
BEWARE: Once you submit your bid packet to Equipnet, there is no facility to modify it, or to delete it!
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« Reply #101 on: March 13, 2020, 10:29:39 am »
"Last Chance - Bid Packets Due ASAP!"

I did submit a bid packet for the junk that I was after (nobody seemed to bid last time on those items... Stag programmer accessories etc..) and threw in a couple of random items.  I bid really low and I am hoping to not win  :-DD

By adding an item that is likely to be bidded on by someone else I think it unlikely my collection of junk will win.

Anybody else bidding?

 

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« Reply #102 on: March 13, 2020, 10:49:26 am »
My goodness, what a struggle. I created a bid packet with lots of items, but then couldn't submit it, the box just had a circle with a bar picture.

What amazes me is that there seems to be no way of getting a simple text listing of the items, or a simple text listing with bid amounts of your bid packet. Also if you don't enter a value for one lot it doesn't tell you.

So, not bothering, no one has replied to my emails in the last week and a half, so leave all the bargains to you!
 

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« Reply #103 on: March 13, 2020, 11:21:23 am »
"Last Chance - Bid Packets Due ASAP!"

I did submit a bid packet for the junk that I was after (nobody seemed to bid last time on those items... Stag programmer accessories etc..) and threw in a couple of random items.  I bid really low and I am hoping to not win  :-DD

By adding an item that is likely to be bidded on by someone else I think it unlikely my collection of junk will win.

Anybody else bidding?

I've done the same, and am also hoping not to win :) I was looking at some lots that included programmers, but I don't think I've included them in my final bid. We'll communicate about what, if anything we win.

I have no idea how they will determine who gets what; I suspect they don't, apart from minimising the hassle to themselves.

They rang me yesterday to answer a question (why not email it?), and they don't know what will happen if coronavirus intervenes.
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« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2020, 07:38:00 pm »
I got some voicemail asking if I have received an email about my yellow bids and if I wanted to raise the price to the reserve... I haven't got an email so I have no idea what they are talking about... also... I thought the point of the bid packet was all or none... hope I haven't miscalculated there!

There will probably be a travel ban anyway by the time this is sorted.... so even more hoping not to win... won't be increasing my offer
 

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« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2020, 09:44:52 pm »
Gawd, what a shower.

I have neither an email nor a voicemail, but I was exceptionally cheapskate.

In this climate I wouldn't increase an offer.

Having said that, I've just bought a voltage reference (which will self-isolate in the garage for a week after it gets here) and sold a Tek scope :)
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« Reply #106 on: March 23, 2020, 09:04:43 am »
I thought the yellow/green traffic light thing was for the last auction. They do seem to be behind the curve a bit as I still get calls responding to questions I asked about the first of these auctions. Long after it has finished.

I did put a packet bid in for some stuff,  not heard anything yet either way.

I would imagine though that the current situation has thrown a spanner in the works. I know a lot of business that are only operating at fraction of their capacity, if they are in work at all.
 

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« Reply #107 on: March 23, 2020, 09:35:46 am »
Well my email server doesn't trust their email server...

Mar 21 14:15:18 **** postfix/smtpd[4727]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 50-200-96-175-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net[50.200.96.175]: 450 4.7.1 <e2016b.eqpnet.lan>: Helo command rejected: Host not found; from=<****@equipnet.com> to=<*******> proto=ESMTP helo=<e2016b.eqpnet.lan>

... and sadly their email server doesn't trust my email server since somehow PlusNet put my IP range back into the SpamHaus PBL but that is resolved now after appealing last night.

Mar 22 20:04:08 **** postfix/smtp[28365]: B5D12161737: to=<*****@equipnet.com>, relay=mail.equipnet.com[50.200.96.179]:25, delay=3.9, delays=0.02/0.07/1.2/2.6, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mail.equipnet.com[50.200.96.179] said: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [****.plus.com] blocked by zen.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/**.**.**.** (in reply to RCPT TO command))

I could add e2016b.eqpnet.lan as a trusted name... but I'm not sure I should since really it is their side that is misconfigured.

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« Reply #108 on: March 25, 2020, 04:37:32 pm »
I've just has an invoice from this shower for one of the items in the bid packet I submitted.

That's despite an explicit statement that I would win either all or none of the items.

The invoice is for a grand total of £1.24.
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« Reply #109 on: March 25, 2020, 04:54:38 pm »
That's despite an explicit statement that I would win either all or none of the items.
Oh dear. 

None of their emails have got through to me yet but I am expecting to receive something similar.

I added...

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/^[eE]2016[abAB]\.eqpnet\.lan$/ OK
to my /etc/postfix/helo_access.pcre so maybe it will get through now

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« Reply #110 on: March 25, 2020, 05:05:56 pm »
My Invoice came through... I won 8 lots... basically all the crap and the decent stuff has disappeared.

Not sure how to collect though since we are in lockdown!
 

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« Reply #111 on: March 25, 2020, 05:26:53 pm »
Scored quitte some items.

If you can't work it out, PM me. I can have yours picked up with mine and reship from my place.

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« Reply #112 on: March 25, 2020, 05:32:16 pm »
If you can't work it out, PM me. I can have yours picked up with mine and reship from my place.
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« Reply #113 on: March 25, 2020, 05:42:56 pm »
Yes, so it depends a bit. If you have some large, heavy items it probably doesn't make much sense. But I have good relations with packagers in the UK, adding a few items won't make a ton of difference and I have a DPD acount to ship it back to you. May sound silly, but it might still make sense.

Chech what your options are and let me know if you want me to look into it. Don't wait too long, though..

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« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2020, 10:24:27 am »
Even though I never submitted a bid packet I just received an invoice!

One item.

One of my email queries was how to print out a simple text list of all the lots and my bid packet to make sure I hadn't bid £5000 on something.

Amazing, how on earth did the Americans get to the moon?
 

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« Reply #115 on: March 26, 2020, 10:51:14 am »
Well, same remark for you: if you want, i can probably help with logistics.

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« Reply #116 on: March 26, 2020, 11:37:02 am »
I will have to pick up my stuff in person... just not sure how that can be achieved given the current virus situation.

I emailed them but got no response.  I will pay the invoice as it is a small amount. 

I could probably collect a couple of items for others (if they are small) if that helped but I have no intention of travelling for the foreseeable future.  I'll let you know when I hear the collection policy.
 

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« Reply #118 on: March 26, 2020, 11:53:00 am »
I will have to pick up my stuff in person... just not sure how that can be achieved given the current virus situation.

I emailed them but got no response.  I will pay the invoice as it is a small amount. 

I could probably collect a couple of items for others (if they are small) if that helped but I have no intention of travelling for the foreseeable future.  I'll let you know when I hear the collection policy.

Yup, that's the key point. I asked their staff member when they phoned me before I placed the bid (and CV was merely looming), and they said they didn't know.

My items are small, and I may have an arrangement with Ice-tea in place.

I'll PM you the email of the individual to whom my question was forwarded.
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« Reply #119 on: March 26, 2020, 03:10:49 pm »
After I had given up any hope, an invoice arrived today.
In their wisdom they have deemed to accept two, out of my three line items, within the 'sealed bid' offer. They dropped the most feature laden item!
I'm surprised that they can pick elements from the 'bid packet'. I too thought that they would accept everything, or nothing.
I will probably drive to collect (assuming that the roads remain open). Date to be determined.
I may be able to assist with moving equipment towards, their new owners.
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« Reply #120 on: March 26, 2020, 04:40:29 pm »
The reason they pick items is because they are below the reserve. No doubt in the small print somewhere ;)

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« Reply #121 on: March 26, 2020, 05:13:16 pm »
The reason they pick items is because they are below the reserve. No doubt in the small print somewhere ;)

I could not find any small print definition of a "sealed bid packet". That's why I explicitly asked the question.
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« Reply #122 on: March 26, 2020, 05:50:49 pm »
I suspect my query emails are not getting through as I have had no replies and I'm pretty convinced that all communication prior to my change to my local mail server has also gone missing which might explain a lot.  I will pay my invoice by bank transfer and see what happens.
 

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« Reply #123 on: March 26, 2020, 08:26:54 pm »
It was my understanding too that with the sealed bid packet, you bid on several items and you either won everything you bid on, or nothing at all. There was no mention of a reserve on any of it this time.

My packet  bid was £1,500 but I haven't had an invoice, so I guess I didnt win anything. Obviously makes more sense to them to sell odd bits and pieces for £1.24 or whatever it was lol.

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« Reply #125 on: March 26, 2020, 08:34:22 pm »
Even though I never submitted a bid packet I just received an invoice!

One item.

One of my email queries was how to print out a simple text list of all the lots and my bid packet to make sure I hadn't bid £5000 on something.

Amazing, how on earth did the Americans get to the moon?

How on earth did they manage to send you an invoice for something you haven't bid on !?

 

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« Reply #126 on: March 26, 2020, 09:00:22 pm »
Even though I never submitted a bid packet I just received an invoice!

One item.

One of my email queries was how to print out a simple text list of all the lots and my bid packet to make sure I hadn't bid £5000 on something.

Amazing, how on earth did the Americans get to the moon?

How on earth did they manage to send you an invoice for something you haven't bid on !?

One explanation is that they are committed to shifting the stuff, and this is the only way they can do it.

That's the "conspiracy theory" ; reluctantly I have to admit that usually he "cockup theory" is the correct explanation. But once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action :)
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« Reply #127 on: March 26, 2020, 09:05:17 pm »
Three may just be an individual positioned far to the left on the IQ bell curve.
 

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« Reply #128 on: March 27, 2020, 04:11:01 pm »
They phoned me the other day to "reassure" me that they are still operating normally.

Make of that what you will...   :-DD
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« Reply #129 on: March 27, 2020, 04:18:54 pm »
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« Reply #130 on: March 31, 2020, 03:18:42 pm »
If anyone wants to have me pick up something for them and forward once I get it: the time is *now*.

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« Reply #131 on: March 31, 2020, 10:31:36 pm »
I gather this site is legit? I am possibly interested in bidding on some analytical instrumentation for my company.
 

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« Reply #132 on: March 31, 2020, 10:52:07 pm »
I gather this site is legit? I am possibly interested in bidding on some analytical instrumentation for my company.

If by "this site" you mean Equipnet, then it is legit. My dealings with them have not been trouble free, as noted above.
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« Reply #133 on: Yesterday at 07:29:11 am »
Oh, FFS:

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Due to this current global health issue , this seller will only  allow the 1 approved vendor to attend the site .

Please be aware that collections from this site there are 2 options ;
•   Use the approved vendor.
•   Leave equipment on site until restrictions are reduced/lifted.



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« Reply #134 on: Yesterday at 08:22:13 am »
Given the above, I have no option but to accept Equipnet's approved courier.
There is a positive side to this, save the packing material for reselling the same item on your favourite auction site!
 

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« Reply #135 on: Yesterday at 09:34:40 am »
Given the above, I have no option but to accept Equipnet's approved courier.
There is a positive side to this, save the packing material for reselling the same item on your favourite auction site!

When possible, could you give some indications of the cost.

My remaining scraps are small, 5kg.
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« Reply #136 on: Yesterday at 10:36:32 am »
Given the above, I have no option but to accept Equipnet's approved courier.
There is a positive side to this, save the packing material for reselling the same item on your favourite auction site!

When possible, could you give some indications of the cost.

My remaining scraps are small, 5kg.

"EquipNet Logistics is reviewing the order information for completeness to obtain quotes from vendors."
They should get back to you with a couriers quote, for your 5Kg item.
Given the current circumstances, I don't see how I can help with shipping.
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #137 on: Yesterday at 11:00:52 am »
Given the above, I have no option but to accept Equipnet's approved courier.
There is a positive side to this, save the packing material for reselling the same item on your favourite auction site!

When possible, could you give some indications of the cost.

My remaining scraps are small, 5kg.

"EquipNet Logistics is reviewing the order information for completeness to obtain quotes from vendors."
They should get back to you with a couriers quote, for your 5Kg item.
Given the current circumstances, I don't see how I can help with shipping.

Thanks.

They have refused to answer my question, despite a reminder.

I paid my £1.42 (!) yesterday. Perhaps they will acknowlege that sometime before Mayday.

As for a quote, I'll get it but am currently minded to say "I'll pick it up myself, if I'm still alive". I have no desire to have any further dealings with Equipnet, given their continued cockups during this sale.
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #138 on: Yesterday at 11:08:40 am »
I'm getting no response to my emails either.  The junk that I won is only economic if I can pick it up in person.  I think I will pay the invoice and then just right it off if they insist on their shipping.... it would be nice to get some response.
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #139 on: Yesterday at 11:13:59 am »
I'm getting no response to my emails either.  The junk that I won is only economic if I can pick it up in person.  I think I will pay the invoice and then just right it off if they insist on their shipping.... it would be nice to get some response.

The worst case is that they might charge you for storage or disposal. Hence my lobbing "if I'm still alive" into a possible response.
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #140 on: Yesterday at 11:17:45 am »
The worst case is that they might charge you for storage or disposal. Hence my lobbing "if I'm still alive" into a possible response.
That is a worry.  Could be the most expensive £1.42 you have ever spent.  |O
 

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #141 on: Yesterday at 12:24:50 pm »
More mail server issues....

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Apr  1 09:47:38 ***** postfix/smtpd[23645]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[174.34.51.164]: 450 4.7.1 <EQCFU5.eqprod.com>: Helo command rejected: Host not found; from=<finance@equipnet.com> o=<******@******.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<EQCFU5.eqprod.com>
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #142 on: Yesterday at 02:07:19 pm »
By the looks of it, I will be allowed to send in my packer as I have quite a lot of items and so it's not the scenario of 500 people running in and out they are trying to avoid.

I'm also allowed to group items from other folk. Those who wish to board the train, send me your invoice numbers/details this evening...

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #143 on: Today at 06:19:47 am »
Window closed..

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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #144 on: Today at 10:29:20 am »
Window closed..
Thanks for the offer.  I won 8 lots (each of which had several items) so I'm holding out for collection in person (and an excuse for a mini-holiday near Telford). 

Now we just wait... for happier times....

Just got this response...

"Assets will remain in the safety of the current location in
Telford, no additional storage fees. Buyers are then welcome to
self-collect or arrange their own couriers once the crisis is over and
freedom of movement is permitted by law"
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #145 on: Today at 01:21:37 pm »
(and an excuse for a mini-holiday near Telford). 
That's a really mini-holiday. Half an hour looking at Iron Bridge and you're done.
 
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Re: Auction UK: RF Heaven, albeit a bit crusty
« Reply #146 on: Today at 01:26:32 pm »
There's also The Wrekin if you fancy a nice walk out and 400m climb. Went up there a couple of decades ago.
 
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