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« on: September 02, 2016, 09:47:15 am »
This guy must be nuts.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/112116844382

180 pallets and 150 to 200 tons of E-junk. Yikes! Maybe that new house he want to buy could be fitted with a padded room.
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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2016, 10:07:11 am »
$20,000 (AUS) and he has significant negative feedback (86.7%), and has terrible ***** seller ratings.

If I was instantly teleported there, and was allowed to choose any item(s), free of any charge and I would get then transported back, instantly as well, for free.

I can't see the slightest item, I would be remotely interested in.

I think if someone forced me to choose between their stuff (which I think looks like extremely dirty, junk), and our rubbish collection facilities (Local Tip), I would prefer to choose electronic items from our tip(s). They at least would be much cleaner.

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I'm not 100% sure I'm going to fly from the UK to Australia, and spend $20,000+ on his ebay lot, and pay huge import duties and transport costs, to collect the stuff.

Actually, I had not read it...
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Full Price is 2,500,000$....

Wow!

I'll have to think about that...
 

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2016, 10:08:13 am »
Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2016, 10:17:58 am »
He at least is letting people look at the stuff.......
But....
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So welcome to look from the front if you must after deposit is paid

So you have to pay $20,000 to even look at it.

Some of the stuff looks like it has been left out in the rain (and other weather). That is just great for electronics |O |O |O

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Consists of New and Used items Broken and faulty, items used for parts striped even the odd fire damage items bought and collected from homes, businesses, datacentres over the years, Good for resale parts scrapping recovery .

Fire damaged items, this is sounding more and more crazy.

I think he would have to pay $10,000 or even a lot more, to get most/all of that stuff carted away and legally scrapped/disposed of.

Presumably, in his(?) head, he really believes this stuff is extremely valuable.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2016, 10:26:35 am »
Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.

I'm convinced the reality is that it is worth a negative amount of money.
I.e. He/they will have to pay an organization, to take the stuff away. Presumably it costs even more to do that legally (I'm NOT familiar with Australian laws), but in the UK, you MUST (legally) use licensed organizations to take stuff away (I think), and/or take it to your local council tip or get them to collect it (rules/limits may apply and they make a modest charge).

I guess you have to be partially crazy to collect that much e-junk, in the first place. Most people would have (hopefully) stopped, before things get that bad.
 

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2016, 10:28:51 am »
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wires

steels

plastics
Sums it up nicely, pretty much...

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Would like to buy a new home for my kids so it all needs to go
He must be his kids nightmare...

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international and Australia wide is ok
:-DD
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2016, 10:38:42 am »
I'm convinced the reality is that it is worth a negative amount of money.
Hard to tell without seeing more of it but I can't see anything of much value in any of the few pics he's bothered to post.
A lot depends on what the disposal coat is for the large percentage of rubbish.
I found one figure of $165/tonne for general commercial waste
http://www.emrc.org.au/fees-and-charges.html

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2016, 10:44:19 am »
I'm convinced the reality is that it is worth a negative amount of money.
Hard to tell without seeing more of it but I can't see anything of much value in any of the few pics he's bothered to post.
A lot depends on what the disposal coat is for the large percentage of rubbish.
I found one figure of $165/tonne for general commercial waste
http://www.emrc.org.au/fees-and-charges.html
A lot of the items in the mountain of junk seems to be e-waste, which at $10ea could easily exceed $165/tonne...
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2016, 10:48:44 am »
I think he would have to pay $10,000 or even a lot more, to get most/all of that stuff carted away and legally scrapped/disposed of.
I agree. It is all e-waste and it will probably cost a fortune to have it removed. Maybe someone is crazy enough to haul it away for free. I did spot some PCs wrapped in plastic. These may be worth something depending on age/state.
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2016, 10:50:49 am »
I'm convinced the reality is that it is worth a negative amount of money.
Hard to tell without seeing more of it but I can't see anything of much value in any of the few pics he's bothered to post.
A lot depends on what the disposal coat is for the large percentage of rubbish.
I found one figure of $165/tonne for general commercial waste
http://www.emrc.org.au/fees-and-charges.html

I agree with you.

It also gets complicated, because some metals (e.g. Copper), became very valuable. But I think the metals market value, later fell. I don't really keep on eye on metal prices, so I'm not sure about the current situation.

It could be that some of his stuff DOES have lots of valuable metal types.

At the end of the day, it looks to me like the seller, has not really got over their problems yet. If they want to sell it (if it has any value at all, and just simply needs to be got rid of), he has to be massively more realistic about the price/value.

Reading the ebay advert, it seems he is also explaining that it is because he has spent so much of his time, doing things with the e-waste, that he has exaggerated its value. I think that is his mistake. It is worth whatever it is worth. If he has wasted thousands of hours collecting and messing with it, it does not make it worth more money. Unless he successfully extracted valuable parts/metals from it.

This story is SO sad. He still has NOT got over his problems. The latest message, is someone kindly offering to come round and buy some of his stuff (which is a good/useful offer). Politely saying he CAN'T afford the $2,500,000. But the seller REFUSES. So sad/silly really.

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Q:    Hey Mate, Would you allow me to come pick out a pallet load or 2 and pay cash on the day, wont waste your time but cant afford the whole lot   02-Sep-16
A:    Hello and thank you for your offer but im looking to sell it all to one buyer and so far im getting a few messages for them it looks like it should sell If you would like to buy it all and give me a good offer and i will consider but for now i will wait If anything changes i will let you know Thank you and have a nice weekend

Please, if you are the seller, please, please, please, let him buy some of it. You will then get closer to having it all gone.
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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2016, 11:16:22 am »
Is this one of those "recover gold from used electronics" people?
 

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2016, 11:16:30 am »
Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.

It looks like he is trying to avoid the Ebay fees. Pay fees on the 20K and not on the $2.48m.
Might also be that Ebay prevents him for setting such a high asking price (i am just guessing; i don't know, i am not an ebay seller...)
 

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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2016, 11:18:16 am »
Is this one of those "recover gold from used electronics" people?
I guess it is more like MK14 in his post observed: This guy seems still to be a pathological hoarder in his heart and mind and struggles to let go...
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2016, 11:23:55 am »
Crikey... and I thought I was bad with my recent thread. Seems I have nothing to worry about. On a scale of 1 to him, I'm a firm 2  :-DD :-DD
 

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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2016, 11:24:06 am »
Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.

It looks like he is trying to avoid the Ebay fees. Pay fees on the 20K and not on the $2.48m.

My guess is that he has no intention of paying ebay anything. He is trying to arrange the sale, OUTSIDE of ebay, via PMs/emails.
But I could be wrong.
But in that case (100% honest), it should have a $2,500,000 reserve and start at $20,000. To be 100% genuine ebay. In my opinion.

I could be wrong, but I doubt if someone did give him a cheque for $2,500,000. He would immediately send ebay a cheque for $250,000 (or whatever it should be).

Given that most of the pictures are missing (i.e. much of the stuff is unknown/unseen), and much of what we can see looks like burnt out, rotting junk piles of rubbish. I don't think they will get much luck, selling it on ebay.

By the way, I want £10,000,000 for the following...

 

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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2016, 11:26:13 am »
Crikey... and I thought I was bad with my recent thread. Seems I have nothing to worry about. On a scale of 1 to him, I'm a firm 2  :-DD :-DD

I emailed the seller. He says he read your thread, and that was exactly the situation he was in 10 years ago.

He advises you to carry on like you are, and in 10 years, sell it on ebay for $5,000,000. As he has had so many offers.  :-DD
 

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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2016, 11:32:30 am »
Crikey... and I thought I was bad with my recent thread. Seems I have nothing to worry about. On a scale of 1 to him, I'm a firm 2  :-DD :-DD

I emailed the seller. He says he read your thread, and that was exactly the situation he was in 10 years ago.

He advises you to carry on like you are, and in 10 years, sell it on ebay for $5,000,000. As he has had so many offers.  :-DD

I never want to end that bad. I just need more space to store my stuff so that I have space to build the projects / get a mill and lathe really.

I honestly can't believe he things general consumer / office scrap is worth that much. At least my collected industrial components have good scrap copper value / use in tesla coils.

Not much to be done with 5000 dvd platers and 20 office copiers.
 

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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2016, 11:39:38 am »
I never want to end that bad. I just need more space to store my stuff so that I have space to build the projects / get a mill and lathe really.

I honestly can't believe he things general consumer / office scrap is worth that much. At least my collected industrial components have good scrap copper value / use in tesla coils.

Not much to be done with 5000 dvd platers and 20 office copiers.

Please don't get me wrong, I was only joking. Sorry if I have caused any confusion/upset.

But EEVBLOG forum users, need to be careful that they don't collect too much stuff, over the years.

Even if it is of some value, collecting TOO MUCH stuff, is usually a VERY BAD IDEA. There are much better ways of making money. I suspect collecting too much stuff, is a very bad way of making money.

Peoples definition of too much varies, but it is kind of obvious what is too much, in many situations.
 

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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2016, 11:47:40 am »
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2016, 11:52:11 am »
I never want to end that bad. I just need more space to store my stuff so that I have space to build the projects / get a mill and lathe really.

I honestly can't believe he things general consumer / office scrap is worth that much. At least my collected industrial components have good scrap copper value / use in tesla coils.

Not much to be done with 5000 dvd platers and 20 office copiers.

Please don't get me wrong, I was only joking. Sorry if I have caused any confusion/upset.

But EEVBLOG forum users, need to be careful that they don't collect too much stuff, over the years.

Even if it is of some value, collecting TOO MUCH stuff, is usually a VERY BAD IDEA. There are much better ways of making money. I suspect collecting too much stuff, is a very bad way of making money.

Peoples definition of too much varies, but it is kind of obvious what is too much, in many situations.

I know you were joking. No confusion, upset or trauma caused.  :-DD

I agree there.
 
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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2016, 12:17:03 pm »


By the way, I want £10,000,000 for the following...



What size is the bike?

Which one, the one which has rusted to almost nothing, hidden under the black bin bags, or the one which works 100% perfectly, apart from the 99% rotted away saddle, missing handle bar, fully worn out brakes, tyres which don't hold any air pressure, or the frame which has dangerously rusted through ?
(also the gearbox seems to have rusted away to nothing, but it's ok, you can still walk it along the roadway).

Anyway to answer your question, it is sized about the same length and height as the piece of string I always keep in my pocket, give or take a yard or so.
 

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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2016, 12:22:42 pm »
I took a brief tour on Google earth around St Albans and whilst I doubt I found the place I did find a dozen or so places that are possibilities. Like these two.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Kealba+(Barro+Group)+Landfill,+Kealba+VIC+3021/@-37.7364286,144.8077537,219a,35.1y,94.53h/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6ad65efc2584fdd5:0xc5504ec4abef5afd!8m2!3d-37.7429349!4d144.8304999

The landfill in the URL is from the search on landfill I did because I recalled there is a pretty big one over that way, At least it isn't more than a couple K's to the tip.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Kealba+(Barro+Group)+Landfill,+Kealba+VIC+3021/@-37.7455049,144.8315125,665m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6ad65efc2584fdd5:0xc5504ec4abef5afd!8m2!3d-37.7429349!4d144.8304999

I'm NOT sure if you are joking or not, but ...

You are almost 100% bang on right with the location, St Albans, UK. Only about the entire (half) circumference of the planet Earth out. Since it is actually from Australia (I believe).  :-DD

Source of picture:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303506/Hoarder-home-Adelaide-smells-bad-neighbours-t-open-windows.html
 

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2016, 12:53:06 pm »
Not all hoarding is bad. Some turn it into an interesting museum:



http://www.fahrzeugmuseum-marxzell.de/

I visited this museum a couple of weeks ago and it takes some adjustment to organise all the visual stimuli into looking at the items one by one. Seeing where to pay the entrance fee was hard!
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2016, 01:14:38 pm »
But EEVBLOG forum users, need to be careful that they don't collect too much stuff, over the years.

I thought I was bad, but it runs in the extended family so I have seen worse.
I have one elderly relation who has multiple properties full of junk, which might come in useful, one day.  They easily be could be rented out, a couple are in prime city centre locations.

I see Dave (sorry Dave) going the same way with his expansion into a new office.  It does not make sense to me having 3 small locations (+ home) to run the Blogg from.  That small warehouse with offices he looked at a year or two back would be better suited. 
 

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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2016, 01:16:52 pm »
He is asking 12.5 dollars/KG. Surely an old crt television is worth 250 dollars.
 

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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2016, 01:23:47 pm »
Not all hoarding is bad. Some turn it into an interesting museum:
[...snip...]
http://www.fahrzeugmuseum-marxzell.de/

I visited this museum a couple of weeks ago and it takes some adjustment to organise all the visual stimuli into looking at the items one by one. Seeing where to pay the entrance fee was hard!

Or just turn it all into in art installation to say something about some thing...


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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2016, 02:17:52 pm »
Getting rich with that kind of stuff requires a lot of talent.  :-DD
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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2016, 02:42:20 pm »

I'm NOT sure if you are joking or not, but ...

You are almost 100% bang on right with the location, St Albans, UK. Only about the entire (half) circumference of the planet Earth out. Since it is actually from Australia (I believe).  :-DD



You've lost me re: St Albans UK. The St Albans I thought I pasted URL's on was the one in Melbourne Australia. About 20k's from me. We are not too imaginative here with place names. You find quite a few London place names recycled over here.

Sorry, the jokes on me, I did not process your link enough to realize it was Australia. As soon as I saw St Albans and the zoomed in map, I thought it was the UK, near London. (Or in London if you like).

Don't worry, I have the same problem with the US. Sometimes something big happens in the US, and they say the name of the place. At first one might think that it is the UK. But it's not, it's in the US or Australia or somewhere.

I've never heard of St Albans, Australia before, sorry.  :phew:
 

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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2016, 11:07:55 pm »
Not all hoarding is bad. Some turn it into an interesting museum:

"Turn it into an interesting museum" being the key concept and difference there. That museum is pretty cool.
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« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2016, 05:30:53 pm »
I wonder if eBay got wind of the fee avoidance shenanigans.
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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2016, 06:03:22 pm »
I wonder if eBay got wind of the fee avoidance shenanigans.

I don't think there were any.

There is a maximum auction fee limit.

I just (quickly so a tiny chance it is wrong) looked it up, for the UK.

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You'll never pay more than £250 as a final value fee.

So I think/understand there are upper limits, anyway.

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Ebay was NOT being cheated, even if the seller was trying to do so ? (not sure about the sellers intentions).

BUT BUT BUT, listing something for $20,000. When the full asking price is really $2,500,000
Surely/presumably is against some of ebay rules and/or immoral/naughty.
 

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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2016, 07:50:09 pm »
Ah, OK. Thanks MK14.
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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2016, 03:41:13 pm »
The listing is now closed.
Must've had second thoughts.

Wow, yes he did have second thoughts.......

But (unbelievably), he has decided to increase the deposit price by a factor of 250% (x2.5 original deposit).

WAS $20,000, now reduced to ONLY $50,000 (plus the total final price is still $2,500,000).

New listing:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bulk-Lot-180-pallets-mixed-Server-Pc-Printers-Phone-Home-Electronics-E-Waste-/112122190565?hash=item1a1b00dae5:g:84YAAOSwFe5Xx66f

Maybe his wife gave him am ultimatum, sell it or ELSE.
So he IS selling it (sort of........).

EDIT:
In the listing, he is giving some explanation as to why the final price is different.

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Sorry i am unable to list it at full price due to selling limits not so high yet i did ask ebay to give me higher limit as they have already removed it once due to they worry they will not get the full fee ,but unable so i have listed it so that ebay still get the full fee
and i am explaining to start that full price is 2,500,000 or best offer with $50,000 deposit

Full Price is 2,500,000$....
50,000$ non-refundable deposit cash bank or PayPal
Rest ( 2,450,000$ ) to be paid in 7 days bank
or give me good offer and pay in 24hrs
will not respond to silly offers
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2016, 03:57:04 pm »
Damn that's a lot of crap. I have noticed a lot of ebay auctions which are ridiculously priced and are basically "here take my rubbish away".

Here's a mini one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262608226145
 

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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2016, 05:58:15 pm »
AU7500... use your imagination... maybe one among in the 180+ pallets...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-RARE-Vintage-harley-indian-scout-1924-frame-excellent-condition-/111865145168?hash=item1a0baea750:g:0tcAAOSwLN5WiRDo
i'm sorry for his kids and wife...
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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2016, 06:03:25 pm »
AU7500... use your imagination... maybe one among in the 180+ pallets...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-RARE-Vintage-harley-indian-scout-1924-frame-excellent-condition-/111865145168?hash=item1a0baea750:g:0tcAAOSwLN5WiRDo
i'm sorry for his kids and wife...

You COULD be right.
Maybe the photographs only show the first few tons.

Maybe the other 175 tons are solid gold, platinum, diamonds, Famous paintings and worth a few trillion dollars.
 

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2016, 06:09:46 pm »
Maybe the other 175 tons are solid gold, platinum, diamonds, Famous paintings and worth a few trillion dollars.
if you check his store, there are truck, van, pickup, forklift and a porche, with some commercial grade photocopiers that sell at ridiculous price as 2nd hand items... please subtract, the remaining is your gold, platinum, diamonds and virgin monalisa..

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2016, 06:13:06 pm »
Maybe the other 175 tons are solid gold, platinum, diamonds, Famous paintings and worth a few trillion dollars.
if you check his store, there are truck, van, pickup, forklift and a porche, with some commercial grade photocopiers that sell at ridiculous price as 2nd hand items... please subtract, the remaining is your gold, platinum, diamonds and virgin monalisa..

But he is selling those things separately, and leaving the complete junk, behind.

But in fairness to yourself, it COULD be that it has some value. But I have NOT seen any evidence of it, in the supplied ebay advert photographs.

It does include (what I presume is) his original, advert to get the items in the first place, here:

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-albans/desktops/free-computer-pc-server-printer-removal-free-data-destruction/1106617638

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Wanted: Free Computer Pc Server Printer Removal Free Data Destruction

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We offer a Free Service

Free Removal Free Data Destruction

All Working , Non Working

And We Just Love The Older Stuff So dont Bin it Give Us A Call ,

Text , Or Message please

We cannot always get to the phone and we will respond asap

Computers, Pc's, Laptops, Tablets, Phones, Servers, UPS, Printers, Tv's, Screens, Projectors, , Dvd Players, Consoles, Cases, Parts, Wires, and so on

Removal Free

We do have a MIn Qty requirement of 3 items pickup

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2016, 06:23:26 pm »
So you have to pay $20,000 to even look at it.
remember, its a non refundable... if you look and decided a no go, your 20K is his to keep... and remember you need to follow the rule... look from the front door and cant poke a hole because his too embarrassed of his gold and germs if his kids see it.
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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2016, 06:24:08 pm »
Actually this story gets worse.

This guy has asked someone to help him (he sort of hints a female), as in a job, working essentially for free, and he wants them to look after the children as well. He offers to eventually (if he makes $$'s), pay them the odd $50, even.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-albans/other/looking-for-help/1102961686

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Hello i AM IN NEED OF A LOCAL, part time, full time, any time but must be looking to stay with us for many years ....that can come and help me at my home till i can afford a factory so we can shift and grow more
I work from home selling good and also run a few web sites from home server i am in need of help with server WHM, msql php, ssl ,website ,networking, upkeep and upgrades programming scripting data entry advertising social media all involved with building and maintaining promoting the sites.

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I am starting to become overwhelmed with it all as it is to much for one person .. :P i need a second me :P but happy with male or female as i have four children under ten years old three of them are girls so female is welcome if you are good with kids

As i may need help with now and then

I need help and cannot afford to hire anyone just yet but as you help me improve my sites and sales pick up i will be able to pay a little and more in time .. but for the first few weeks payment will be mainly in friendship and may be able to slip a $50 as a thank you .......as i get $$ i will give more $$

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2016, 06:25:57 pm »
So you have to pay $20,000 to even look at it.
remember, its a non refundable... if you look and decided a no go, your 20K is his to keep... and remember you need to follow the rule... look from the front door and cant poke a hole because his too embarrassed of his gold and germs if his kids see it.

He increased it to $50,000 now. See my post, a few posts above.

EDIT:
I'm feeling guilty about this thread. Are we (especially me  :-[ :-[ :-[ :palm:), making fun of a person who is down on their luck, possible made some none ideal decisions in life and/or suffering health etc problems ?
If you think so, feel free to say so.
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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2016, 12:21:39 am »
My spidey senses say that he had a wife, but she succumbed to the shitpile falling on top of her, died, and left behind her 4 children with this nutter.  >:D

Of course she could have had enough of him and just left, but IME (including my own mum) women tend to take the kids with them - especially when the benefits system gives them shitloads of free money to do just that and the court systems in the west then go on to utterly ruin the fathers.

Perhaps the mother actually has left and taken the kids and the father has been instructed to sell all his shit for child support and maintenance. He is under the delusion that his shitpile once sold for millions will get them all back?

Oh lord...

And of course because I am totally PC, this could be an aboriginal female (chosen gender or birth gender is irrelavent) of the muslim persuasion. In which case the social services would 100% allow "her" to keep the children in that environment.  |O
 

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2016, 12:29:37 am »
My spidey senses say that he had a wife, but she succumbed to the shitpile falling on top of her, died, and left behind her 4 children with this nutter.  >:D

Of course she could have had enough of him and just left, but IME (including my own mum) women tend to take the kids with them - especially when the benefits system gives them shitloads of free money to do just that and the court systems in the west then go on to utterly ruin the fathers.

Perhaps the mother actually has left and taken the kids and the father has been instructed to sell all his shit for child support and maintenance. He is under the delusion that his shitpile once sold for millions will get them all back?

Oh lord...

And of course because I am totally PC, this could be an aboriginal female (chosen gender or birth gender is irrelavent) of the muslim persuasion. In which case the social services would 100% allow "her" to keep the children in that environment.  |O

I'm convinced there is some kind of significant story to this thing, and we only know a small number of the details.

With a "normal" hoarder, they perhaps have a ton or two of stuff, maybe more.
This person, seems to have amassed a factory sized chunk of hoarding.
Maybe the council (whatever that is called in Australia), is on to this person. So they need to sort things out, soon.

The asking for $2,500,000 could mean that the person is under strange delusions, as to the true value of the junk items.

I would love to talk to that persons neighbors, who could probably fill us in on the real/full story behind what is going on. It would maybe make an interesting documentary.

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Because Dave likes Electronics and making youtube vidoes, and at least lives in the same country. He could interview the person and find out what is going on, then we could all watch it.
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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2016, 02:52:11 am »
Seems like people on ebay still think their stuff is worth a lot. Any electronics that has been out in the rain is worth pennies unless it has been cleaned and verified working.
 

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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2016, 08:06:47 am »
OMG what a pile of crap that lot is!

there could be a few items in there worth something, there's copper in them old servers, maybe the odd vintage doohicky which might be worth something in there...

but the piles of photocopiers, junk TVs and other consumer crap would be a nightmare to shift and deal with, the phrase 'picking peanuts out of poo' comes to mind

unfortunately they have let their hoarding get way out of control

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« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2016, 09:49:17 am »
After reading some of the other advertisements from the seller (thanks for posting them!) it occurs to me this guy tried to setup a business around buying and selling used equipment. In itself that isn't a bad idea but I think he took on much more than he bargained for and got too much crap and too little valuable items. And it seems very likely he has lost his wife on top of it all.
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« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2016, 10:51:22 am »
I've met several people like this - in total denial about obsolescence and value.
Can't see the benefit of cash now vs. a possible sale at some point in the future.
Won't be convinced that the thing they bought years ago is worthless, or the still-useful thing isn't still worth what they paid 10 years ago.
Or that it actually costs money to sort through stuff and recover anything of value, so all teh copper inside is pretty much worthless.
Will take personal offence if you offer them a sensible price, and then ramble on for ages about how much it's worth, how he got it, how he was going to refurbish, the cost of feeding his dog etc. etc. Used to see many like this at Radio Rallies.
Begrudges paying anyone for any kind of service ( ebay, paypal etc.)
Same sort of person you see trying to sell 10MHz analogue scopes on ebay.
 
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« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2016, 03:01:25 pm »
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« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2016, 03:14:50 pm »
I sold a 5MHz one for £55 a couple of years back. Am I naughty? :)
 

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« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2016, 04:04:19 pm »
I sold a 5MHz one for £55 a couple of years back. Am I naughty? :)
Very!  ;) My first scope was a Telequipment D51 that was only 6MHz IIRC. That only cost me £20 back in 1989! I gave it away for nothing.
 

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« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2016, 04:18:52 pm »
This was a Telequipment S61. Even crapper. One entire channel, 5MHz, nasty triggering (the light switch was better at triggering it than the trigger was) and assembled by blind drunken monkeys. The phosphor was a like an incandescent lamp. Edit: oh and the smell. I'll never forget that awful smell it made which I suspect was human urine.
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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2016, 11:41:50 pm »
Even if all this stuff was fully functional, it wouldn't be worth anywhere near $2.5M.
The burnt stuff would be barely worth the fuel needed for the truck/forklift to move it.

Just look at what a pallet load of random electronic/computer stuff goes for on the auction sites, not much.
 

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« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2016, 12:09:21 am »
I sold a 5MHz one for £55 a couple of years back. Am I naughty? :)

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« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2016, 01:00:42 am »
I'm strongly reminded of this newspaper story I read a few days ago:
   http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/mark-tromp-apologises-thanks-police-hopes-to-make-sense-of-familys-ordeal-20160906-gr9op4.html

Curiously, in the original listing from http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/112116844382, there is now one photo removed. Which was the only photo I thought showed anything of possible interest. Looked like some Tek rackmount stuff, but stacked face-down so there was no way to tell what they were. The last photo still there has a glimpse of them, upper right.
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Re: Electronics hoarder
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2016, 01:35:25 am »
The following is speculation, but......

He is selling on ebay some of the items, separately.
Example.

Photocopier, he is asking $5,500.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Konica-Minolta-bizhub-C550-Colour-Office-Photocopier-Printer-Scanner-/111880918238?hash=item1a0c9f54de:g:bWYAAOSwCypWoBfF

He has posted a picture of a brand new one for the ebay advert.



Please don't laugh, but the reality is one of the ones in the following picture, out in all weathers, including the rain...
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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2016, 03:58:48 am »
Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.

My eyes went :wtf: when I saw that. Crazy.
 

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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2016, 06:39:06 am »
OK, that does it. I confess, I am an incurable link hoarder. If URLs took up physical space, my house would be bursting at the seams and I'd probably be found some day, trapped under a collapsed pile of URLs and starved to death. I know, I know, I could 'buy' all the links I need any time, from google. But it's such a nice feeling to have a huge store of links, sorted into some kind of order. Well, piled up really, some of them out in the rain. Oh, and now and then a small fire in the worst piles of links. Still good, just a little blackened. As for link rats, it's OK, the cats keep them kind of under control.

Rather than seek help, I'm inspired by this thread to start another links collection, on the topic of hoarders. Just started today, give me a few years and it will be awesome. Worth millions. :)

20160605
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/free-(aus)-world's-largest-electronics-parts-collection-as-seen-on-eevblog/

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/what-to-do-with-your-electronic-stuff-after-you're-dead!/
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/stripping-circuit-boards-with-a-solder-bath/


20160907
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/electronics-hoarder/

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    Original listing: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bulk-Lot-180-pallets-mixed-Server-Pc-Printers-Phone-Home-Electronics-E-Waste-/112116844382?nma=true&si=%252BpD33UM%252F20NujZIUkk%252B9CsEcyRU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/so-you-think-you-have-too-much-junk/
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/daemons-of-a-young-electronics-horder-and-procrastinator/
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/excess-parts-'sell'-or-throw-away/


Anyone want to get rid of some unwanted hoarder links? I'll take them away for free. Just post here.


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« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2016, 12:10:44 am »
TerraHertz  :-DD

I like it. I don't think you'll have any problem with rats. Links tend to be fancied by mice (mouses?).
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