Electronics hoarder

[Jwalling]

This guy must be nuts.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/112116844382

180 pallets and 150 to 200 tons of E-junk. Yikes! Maybe that new house he want to buy could be fitted with a padded room.

[MK14]

$20,000 (AUS) and he has significant negative feedback (86.7%), and has terrible ***** seller ratings.

If I was instantly teleported there, and was allowed to choose any item(s), free of any charge and I would get then transported back, instantly as well, for free.

I can't see the slightest item, I would be remotely interested in.

I think if someone forced me to choose between their stuff (which I think looks like extremely dirty, junk), and our rubbish collection facilities (Local Tip), I would prefer to choose electronic items from our tip(s). They at least would be much cleaner.

tl;dr
I'm not 100% sure I'm going to fly from the UK to Australia, and spend $20,000+ on his ebay lot, and pay huge import duties and transport costs, to collect the stuff.

Actually, I had not read it...

Full Price is 2,500,000$....

Wow!

I'll have to think about that...

[mikeselectricstuff]

Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.

[MK14]

He at least is letting people look at the stuff.......
But....

So welcome to look from the front if you must after deposit is paid

So you have to pay $20,000 to even look at it.

Some of the stuff looks like it has been left out in the rain (and other weather). That is just great for electronics

Consists of New and Used items Broken and faulty, items used for parts striped even the odd fire damage items bought and collected from homes, businesses, datacentres over the years, Good for resale parts scrapping recovery .

Fire damaged items, this is sounding more and more crazy.

I think he would have to pay $10,000 or even a lot more, to get most/all of that stuff carted away and legally scrapped/disposed of.

Presumably, in his(?) head, he really believes this stuff is extremely valuable.

[MK14]

Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.

I'm convinced the reality is that it is worth a negative amount of money.
I.e. He/they will have to pay an organization, to take the stuff away. Presumably it costs even more to do that legally (I'm NOT familiar with Australian laws), but in the UK, you MUST (legally) use licensed organizations to take stuff away (I think), and/or take it to your local council tip or get them to collect it (rules/limits may apply and they make a modest charge).

I guess you have to be partially crazy to collect that much e-junk, in the first place. Most people would have (hopefully) stopped, before things get that bad.

[elgonzo]

wires

steels

plastics

Sums it up nicely, pretty much...

Would like to buy a new home for my kids so it all needs to go

He must be his kids nightmare...

international and Australia wide is ok

[mikeselectricstuff]

I'm convinced the reality is that it is worth a negative amount of money.

Hard to tell without seeing more of it but I can't see anything of much value in any of the few pics he's bothered to post.
A lot depends on what the disposal coat is for the large percentage of rubbish.
I found one figure of $165/tonne for general commercial waste
http://www.emrc.org.au/fees-and-charges.html

[elgonzo]

I'm convinced the reality is that it is worth a negative amount of money.

Hard to tell without seeing more of it but I can't see anything of much value in any of the few pics he's bothered to post.
A lot depends on what the disposal coat is for the large percentage of rubbish.
I found one figure of $165/tonne for general commercial waste
http://www.emrc.org.au/fees-and-charges.html

A lot of the items in the mountain of junk seems to be e-waste, which at $10ea could easily exceed $165/tonne...

[nctnico]

I think he would have to pay $10,000 or even a lot more, to get most/all of that stuff carted away and legally scrapped/disposed of.

I agree. It is all e-waste and it will probably cost a fortune to have it removed. Maybe someone is crazy enough to haul it away for free. I did spot some PCs wrapped in plastic. These may be worth something depending on age/state.

[MK14]

I'm convinced the reality is that it is worth a negative amount of money.

Hard to tell without seeing more of it but I can't see anything of much value in any of the few pics he's bothered to post.
A lot depends on what the disposal coat is for the large percentage of rubbish.
I found one figure of $165/tonne for general commercial waste
http://www.emrc.org.au/fees-and-charges.html

I agree with you.

It also gets complicated, because some metals (e.g. Copper), became very valuable. But I think the metals market value, later fell. I don't really keep on eye on metal prices, so I'm not sure about the current situation.

It could be that some of his stuff DOES have lots of valuable metal types.

At the end of the day, it looks to me like the seller, has not really got over their problems yet. If they want to sell it (if it has any value at all, and just simply needs to be got rid of), he has to be massively more realistic about the price/value.

Reading the ebay advert, it seems he is also explaining that it is because he has spent so much of his time, doing things with the e-waste, that he has exaggerated its value. I think that is his mistake. It is worth whatever it is worth. If he has wasted thousands of hours collecting and messing with it, it does not make it worth more money. Unless he successfully extracted valuable parts/metals from it.

This story is SO sad. He still has NOT got over his problems. The latest message, is someone kindly offering to come round and buy some of his stuff (which is a good/useful offer). Politely saying he CAN'T afford the $2,500,000. But the seller REFUSES. So sad/silly really.

Q:    Hey Mate, Would you allow me to come pick out a pallet load or 2 and pay cash on the day, wont waste your time but cant afford the whole lot   02-Sep-16
A:    Hello and thank you for your offer but im looking to sell it all to one buyer and so far im getting a few messages for them it looks like it should sell If you would like to buy it all and give me a good offer and i will consider but for now i will wait If anything changes i will let you know Thank you and have a nice weekend

Please, if you are the seller, please, please, please, let him buy some of it. You will then get closer to having it all gone.

[Jeroen3]

Is this one of those "recover gold from used electronics" people?

[elgonzo]

Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.

It looks like he is trying to avoid the Ebay fees. Pay fees on the 20K and not on the $2.48m.

Might also be that Ebay prevents him for setting such a high asking price (i am just guessing; i don't know, i am not an ebay seller...)

[elgonzo]

Is this one of those "recover gold from used electronics" people?

I guess it is more like MK14 in his post observed: This guy seems still to be a pathological hoarder in his heart and mind and struggles to let go...

[CM800]

Crikey... and I thought I was bad with my recent thread. Seems I have nothing to worry about. On a scale of 1 to him, I'm a firm 2 

[MK14]

Asking $2.5M - clearly delusional.
IMO he'd be lucky to get the 20K deposit.

It looks like he is trying to avoid the Ebay fees. Pay fees on the 20K and not on the $2.48m.

My guess is that he has no intention of paying ebay anything. He is trying to arrange the sale, OUTSIDE of ebay, via PMs/emails.
But I could be wrong.
But in that case (100% honest), it should have a $2,500,000 reserve and start at $20,000. To be 100% genuine ebay. In my opinion.

I could be wrong, but I doubt if someone did give him a cheque for $2,500,000. He would immediately send ebay a cheque for $250,000 (or whatever it should be).

Given that most of the pictures are missing (i.e. much of the stuff is unknown/unseen), and much of what we can see looks like burnt out, rotting junk piles of rubbish. I don't think they will get much luck, selling it on ebay.

By the way, I want £10,000,000 for the following...

[MK14]

Crikey... and I thought I was bad with my recent thread. Seems I have nothing to worry about. On a scale of 1 to him, I'm a firm 2 

I emailed the seller. He says he read your thread, and that was exactly the situation he was in 10 years ago.

He advises you to carry on like you are, and in 10 years, sell it on ebay for $5,000,000. As he has had so many offers. 

[CM800]

Crikey... and I thought I was bad with my recent thread. Seems I have nothing to worry about. On a scale of 1 to him, I'm a firm 2 

I emailed the seller. He says he read your thread, and that was exactly the situation he was in 10 years ago.

He advises you to carry on like you are, and in 10 years, sell it on ebay for $5,000,000. As he has had so many offers. 

I never want to end that bad. I just need more space to store my stuff so that I have space to build the projects / get a mill and lathe really.

I honestly can't believe he things general consumer / office scrap is worth that much. At least my collected industrial components have good scrap copper value / use in tesla coils.

Not much to be done with 5000 dvd platers and 20 office copiers.

[MK14]

I never want to end that bad. I just need more space to store my stuff so that I have space to build the projects / get a mill and lathe really.

I honestly can't believe he things general consumer / office scrap is worth that much. At least my collected industrial components have good scrap copper value / use in tesla coils.

Not much to be done with 5000 dvd platers and 20 office copiers.

Please don't get me wrong, I was only joking. Sorry if I have caused any confusion/upset.

But EEVBLOG forum users, need to be careful that they don't collect too much stuff, over the years.

Even if it is of some value, collecting TOO MUCH stuff, is usually a VERY BAD IDEA. There are much better ways of making money. I suspect collecting too much stuff, is a very bad way of making money.

Peoples definition of too much varies, but it is kind of obvious what is too much, in many situations.

[digsys]

  ... As he has had so many offers. 

  In his DREAMS !

[CM800]

I never want to end that bad. I just need more space to store my stuff so that I have space to build the projects / get a mill and lathe really.

I honestly can't believe he things general consumer / office scrap is worth that much. At least my collected industrial components have good scrap copper value / use in tesla coils.

Not much to be done with 5000 dvd platers and 20 office copiers.

Please don't get me wrong, I was only joking. Sorry if I have caused any confusion/upset.

But EEVBLOG forum users, need to be careful that they don't collect too much stuff, over the years.

Even if it is of some value, collecting TOO MUCH stuff, is usually a VERY BAD IDEA. There are much better ways of making money. I suspect collecting too much stuff, is a very bad way of making money.

Peoples definition of too much varies, but it is kind of obvious what is too much, in many situations.

I know you were joking. No confusion, upset or trauma caused. 

I agree there.

[MK14]

By the way, I want £10,000,000 for the following...

What size is the bike?

Which one, the one which has rusted to almost nothing, hidden under the black bin bags, or the one which works 100% perfectly, apart from the 99% rotted away saddle, missing handle bar, fully worn out brakes, tyres which don't hold any air pressure, or the frame which has dangerously rusted through ?
(also the gearbox seems to have rusted away to nothing, but it's ok, you can still walk it along the roadway).

Anyway to answer your question, it is sized about the same length and height as the piece of string I always keep in my pocket, give or take a yard or so.

[MK14]

I took a brief tour on Google earth around St Albans and whilst I doubt I found the place I did find a dozen or so places that are possibilities. Like these two.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Kealba+(Barro+Group)+Landfill,+Kealba+VIC+3021/@-37.7364286,144.8077537,219a,35.1y,94.53h/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6ad65efc2584fdd5:0xc5504ec4abef5afd!8m2!3d-37.7429349!4d144.8304999

The landfill in the URL is from the search on landfill I did because I recalled there is a pretty big one over that way, At least it isn't more than a couple K's to the tip.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Kealba+(Barro+Group)+Landfill,+Kealba+VIC+3021/@-37.7455049,144.8315125,665m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6ad65efc2584fdd5:0xc5504ec4abef5afd!8m2!3d-37.7429349!4d144.8304999

I'm NOT sure if you are joking or not, but ...

You are almost 100% bang on right with the location, St Albans, UK. Only about the entire (half) circumference of the planet Earth out. Since it is actually from Australia (I believe). 

Source of picture:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303506/Hoarder-home-Adelaide-smells-bad-neighbours-t-open-windows.html

[nctnico]

Not all hoarding is bad. Some turn it into an interesting museum:



http://www.fahrzeugmuseum-marxzell.de/

I visited this museum a couple of weeks ago and it takes some adjustment to organise all the visual stimuli into looking at the items one by one. Seeing where to pay the entrance fee was hard!

[Towger]

But EEVBLOG forum users, need to be careful that they don't collect too much stuff, over the years.

I thought I was bad, but it runs in the extended family so I have seen worse.
I have one elderly relation who has multiple properties full of junk, which might come in useful, one day.  They easily be could be rented out, a couple are in prime city centre locations.

I see Dave (sorry Dave) going the same way with his expansion into a new office.  It does not make sense to me having 3 small locations (+ home) to run the Blogg from.  That small warehouse with offices he looked at a year or two back would be better suited. 

[tszaboo]

He is asking 12.5 dollars/KG. Surely an old crt television is worth 250 dollars.