Electronics hoarder

[elgonzo]

Not all hoarding is bad. Some turn it into an interesting museum:
[...snip...]
http://www.fahrzeugmuseum-marxzell.de/

I visited this museum a couple of weeks ago and it takes some adjustment to organise all the visual stimuli into looking at the items one by one. Seeing where to pay the entrance fee was hard!

Or just turn it all into in art installation to say something about some thing...


(Hi-Life, EXPO 2000)

[Falkra]

Getting rich with that kind of stuff requires a lot of talent. 

[MK14]

I'm NOT sure if you are joking or not, but ...

You are almost 100% bang on right with the location, St Albans, UK. Only about the entire (half) circumference of the planet Earth out. Since it is actually from Australia (I believe). 

You've lost me re: St Albans UK. The St Albans I thought I pasted URL's on was the one in Melbourne Australia. About 20k's from me. We are not too imaginative here with place names. You find quite a few London place names recycled over here.

Sorry, the jokes on me, I did not process your link enough to realize it was Australia. As soon as I saw St Albans and the zoomed in map, I thought it was the UK, near London. (Or in London if you like).

Don't worry, I have the same problem with the US. Sometimes something big happens in the US, and they say the name of the place. At first one might think that it is the UK. But it's not, it's in the US or Australia or somewhere.

I've never heard of St Albans, Australia before, sorry. 

[bitseeker]

Not all hoarding is bad. Some turn it into an interesting museum:

"Turn it into an interesting museum" being the key concept and difference there. That museum is pretty cool.

[bitseeker]

I wonder if eBay got wind of the fee avoidance shenanigans.

[MK14]

I wonder if eBay got wind of the fee avoidance shenanigans.

I don't think there were any.

There is a maximum auction fee limit.

I just (quickly so a tiny chance it is wrong) looked it up, for the UK.

You'll never pay more than £250 as a final value fee.

So I think/understand there are upper limits, anyway.

tl;dr
Ebay was NOT being cheated, even if the seller was trying to do so ? (not sure about the sellers intentions).

BUT BUT BUT, listing something for $20,000. When the full asking price is really $2,500,000
Surely/presumably is against some of ebay rules and/or immoral/naughty.

[bitseeker]

Ah, OK. Thanks MK14.

[MK14]

The listing is now closed.
Must've had second thoughts.

Wow, yes he did have second thoughts.......

But (unbelievably), he has decided to increase the deposit price by a factor of 250% (x2.5 original deposit).

WAS $20,000, now reduced to ONLY $50,000 (plus the total final price is still $2,500,000).

New listing:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bulk-Lot-180-pallets-mixed-Server-Pc-Printers-Phone-Home-Electronics-E-Waste-/112122190565?hash=item1a1b00dae5:g:84YAAOSwFe5Xx66f

Maybe his wife gave him am ultimatum, sell it or ELSE.
So he IS selling it (sort of........).

EDIT:
In the listing, he is giving some explanation as to why the final price is different.

Sorry i am unable to list it at full price due to selling limits not so high yet i did ask ebay to give me higher limit as they have already removed it once due to they worry they will not get the full fee ,but unable so i have listed it so that ebay still get the full fee
and i am explaining to start that full price is 2,500,000 or best offer with $50,000 deposit

Full Price is 2,500,000$....
50,000$ non-refundable deposit cash bank or PayPal
Rest ( 2,450,000$ ) to be paid in 7 days bank
or give me good offer and pay in 24hrs
will not respond to silly offers

[setq]

Damn that's a lot of crap. I have noticed a lot of ebay auctions which are ridiculously priced and are basically "here take my rubbish away".

Here's a mini one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262608226145

[Mechatrommer]

AU7500... use your imagination... maybe one among in the 180+ pallets...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-RARE-Vintage-harley-indian-scout-1924-frame-excellent-condition-/111865145168?hash=item1a0baea750:g:0tcAAOSwLN5WiRDo
i'm sorry for his kids and wife...

[MK14]

AU7500... use your imagination... maybe one among in the 180+ pallets...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-RARE-Vintage-harley-indian-scout-1924-frame-excellent-condition-/111865145168?hash=item1a0baea750:g:0tcAAOSwLN5WiRDo
i'm sorry for his kids and wife...

You COULD be right.
Maybe the photographs only show the first few tons.

Maybe the other 175 tons are solid gold, platinum, diamonds, Famous paintings and worth a few trillion dollars.

[Mechatrommer]

Maybe the other 175 tons are solid gold, platinum, diamonds, Famous paintings and worth a few trillion dollars.

if you check his store, there are truck, van, pickup, forklift and a porche, with some commercial grade photocopiers that sell at ridiculous price as 2nd hand items... please subtract, the remaining is your gold, platinum, diamonds and virgin monalisa..

[MK14]

Maybe the other 175 tons are solid gold, platinum, diamonds, Famous paintings and worth a few trillion dollars.

if you check his store, there are truck, van, pickup, forklift and a porche, with some commercial grade photocopiers that sell at ridiculous price as 2nd hand items... please subtract, the remaining is your gold, platinum, diamonds and virgin monalisa..

But he is selling those things separately, and leaving the complete junk, behind.

But in fairness to yourself, it COULD be that it has some value. But I have NOT seen any evidence of it, in the supplied ebay advert photographs.

It does include (what I presume is) his original, advert to get the items in the first place, here:

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-albans/desktops/free-computer-pc-server-printer-removal-free-data-destruction/1106617638

Wanted: Free Computer Pc Server Printer Removal Free Data Destruction

Seller's description
Date Listed:
09/03/2016
Last Edited:
24/03/2016
Condition:
Used
We offer a Free Service

Free Removal Free Data Destruction

All Working , Non Working

And We Just Love The Older Stuff So dont Bin it Give Us A Call ,

Text , Or Message please

We cannot always get to the phone and we will respond asap

Computers, Pc's, Laptops, Tablets, Phones, Servers, UPS, Printers, Tv's, Screens, Projectors, , Dvd Players, Consoles, Cases, Parts, Wires, and so on

Removal Free

We do have a MIn Qty requirement of 3 items pickup

[Mechatrommer]

So you have to pay $20,000 to even look at it.

remember, its a non refundable... if you look and decided a no go, your 20K is his to keep... and remember you need to follow the rule... look from the front door and cant poke a hole because his too embarrassed of his gold and germs if his kids see it.

[MK14]

Actually this story gets worse.

This guy has asked someone to help him (he sort of hints a female), as in a job, working essentially for free, and he wants them to look after the children as well. He offers to eventually (if he makes $$'s), pay them the odd $50, even.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-albans/other/looking-for-help/1102961686

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Hello i AM IN NEED OF A LOCAL, part time, full time, any time but must be looking to stay with us for many years ....that can come and help me at my home till i can afford a factory so we can shift and grow more
I work from home selling good and also run a few web sites from home server i am in need of help with server WHM, msql php, ssl ,website ,networking, upkeep and upgrades programming scripting data entry advertising social media all involved with building and maintaining promoting the sites.

And to help me with the od jobs, sales, listing, lifting ,cleaning going on drives to collect stock delivery's and so much more

I am starting to become overwhelmed with it all as it is to much for one person .. i need a second me but happy with male or female as i have four children under ten years old three of them are girls so female is welcome if you are good with kids

As i may need help with now and then

I need help and cannot afford to hire anyone just yet but as you help me improve my sites and sales pick up i will be able to pay a little and more in time .. but for the first few weeks payment will be mainly in friendship and may be able to slip a $50 as a thank you .......as i get $$ i will give more $$

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[MK14]

So you have to pay $20,000 to even look at it.

remember, its a non refundable... if you look and decided a no go, your 20K is his to keep... and remember you need to follow the rule... look from the front door and cant poke a hole because his too embarrassed of his gold and germs if his kids see it.

He increased it to $50,000 now. See my post, a few posts above.

EDIT:
I'm feeling guilty about this thread. Are we (especially me  ), making fun of a person who is down on their luck, possible made some none ideal decisions in life and/or suffering health etc problems ?
If you think so, feel free to say so.

[Macbeth]

My spidey senses say that he had a wife, but she succumbed to the shitpile falling on top of her, died, and left behind her 4 children with this nutter. 

Of course she could have had enough of him and just left, but IME (including my own mum) women tend to take the kids with them - especially when the benefits system gives them shitloads of free money to do just that and the court systems in the west then go on to utterly ruin the fathers.

Perhaps the mother actually has left and taken the kids and the father has been instructed to sell all his shit for child support and maintenance. He is under the delusion that his shitpile once sold for millions will get them all back?

Oh lord...

And of course because I am totally PC, this could be an aboriginal female (chosen gender or birth gender is irrelavent) of the muslim persuasion. In which case the social services would 100% allow "her" to keep the children in that environment. 

[MK14]

My spidey senses say that he had a wife, but she succumbed to the shitpile falling on top of her, died, and left behind her 4 children with this nutter. 

Of course she could have had enough of him and just left, but IME (including my own mum) women tend to take the kids with them - especially when the benefits system gives them shitloads of free money to do just that and the court systems in the west then go on to utterly ruin the fathers.

Perhaps the mother actually has left and taken the kids and the father has been instructed to sell all his shit for child support and maintenance. He is under the delusion that his shitpile once sold for millions will get them all back?

Oh lord...

And of course because I am totally PC, this could be an aboriginal female (chosen gender or birth gender is irrelavent) of the muslim persuasion. In which case the social services would 100% allow "her" to keep the children in that environment. 

I'm convinced there is some kind of significant story to this thing, and we only know a small number of the details.

With a "normal" hoarder, they perhaps have a ton or two of stuff, maybe more.
This person, seems to have amassed a factory sized chunk of hoarding.
Maybe the council (whatever that is called in Australia), is on to this person. So they need to sort things out, soon.

The asking for $2,500,000 could mean that the person is under strange delusions, as to the true value of the junk items.

I would love to talk to that persons neighbors, who could probably fill us in on the real/full story behind what is going on. It would maybe make an interesting documentary.

***The following is a JOKE***
Because Dave likes Electronics and making youtube vidoes, and at least lives in the same country. He could interview the person and find out what is going on, then we could all watch it.
"The worlds biggest pile of electronics, junk rubbish stuff in the world".
***End of Joke***.

[System Error Message]

Seems like people on ebay still think their stuff is worth a lot. Any electronics that has been out in the rain is worth pennies unless it has been cleaned and verified working.

[dexters_lab]

OMG what a pile of crap that lot is!

there could be a few items in there worth something, there's copper in them old servers, maybe the odd vintage doohicky which might be worth something in there...

but the piles of photocopiers, junk TVs and other consumer crap would be a nightmare to shift and deal with, the phrase 'picking peanuts out of poo' comes to mind

unfortunately they have let their hoarding get way out of control

[nctnico]

After reading some of the other advertisements from the seller (thanks for posting them!) it occurs to me this guy tried to setup a business around buying and selling used equipment. In itself that isn't a bad idea but I think he took on much more than he bargained for and got too much crap and too little valuable items. And it seems very likely he has lost his wife on top of it all.

[mikeselectricstuff]

I've met several people like this - in total denial about obsolescence and value.
Can't see the benefit of cash now vs. a possible sale at some point in the future.
Won't be convinced that the thing they bought years ago is worthless, or the still-useful thing isn't still worth what they paid 10 years ago.
Or that it actually costs money to sort through stuff and recover anything of value, so all teh copper inside is pretty much worthless.
Will take personal offence if you offer them a sensible price, and then ramble on for ages about how much it's worth, how he got it, how he was going to refurbish, the cost of feeding his dog etc. etc. Used to see many like this at Radio Rallies.
Begrudges paying anyone for any kind of service ( ebay, paypal etc.)
Same sort of person you see trying to sell 10MHz analogue scopes on ebay.
 

[PaulAm]

Same sort of person you see trying to sell 10MHz analogue scopes on ebay.

for $500 

[setq]

I sold a 5MHz one for £55 a couple of years back. Am I naughty?

[Macbeth]

I sold a 5MHz one for £55 a couple of years back. Am I naughty?

Very!  My first scope was a Telequipment D51 that was only 6MHz IIRC. That only cost me £20 back in 1989! I gave it away for nothing.