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Offline euriskoTopic starter

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First Personal Scope
« on: December 10, 2011, 09:32:15 pm »
Hi everyone,

Okay, i have read several post regarding this common question, recommendation for the first scope, but none ask for 4 channels.

I want 4 analog channels , and a bandwidth of around 50-100mhz.

My first choice is the AGILENT DSOX2004A (70 mhz) as i am a student i will get the wavegen and the edk something for free, I am just waiting to see if they will give me 15% off also on the scope price, this way i will avoid buying a function generator. 1499 Euros ~= 2010 USD with 15% off -> 1274,15 Euros ~= 1700 USD.

My Second choice Rigol DS1064B (60 mhz) , quoted price is 945$ arround 700 Eur, but i still can't find a local dealer or prices, i am in Portugal.

I don't consider the old Agilent DSO1004A (60 mhz) a option because they cost 1455 and it's the same as the Rigol i think.

What would you guys buy? Does tekway haves 4 channels scopes? Can someone point me European Union dealers?

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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 10:26:51 pm »
Would you really give up long memory (DS1064B) for four channel ability? 8kpoints memory depth is very short compared to more modern designs. Does none of the other low-budget manufacturers (GW-Instek, Owon SDS series, Hantek) have modern 4 channel scopes?

As for EU dealers, Joyce from MCS test equipment posts here occasionally, I believe they are authorized Rigol dealers. I'm sure there are others in the EU. Not sure about the other brands.
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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 10:45:04 pm »
Do Agilent have the 15% off in your country for an old scope trade-in?
You can save serious cash by buying an old non-working 50MHz scope on ebay and trading in.

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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 11:09:26 pm »
Hi thanks everyone for the replies.

In my lab i have used for the last 6 months a Tek TDS2014C it's 100 MHZ , and it haves 2.5k points. For most of the stuff it was okay i guess... (or i didn't see it...)

The agilent DSOX2004A is 100k :) , but well regarding the discount the link provided for me by the sales representative, http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=2005946&nid=-33573.970736.02&id=2005946&cmpid=39118

states on "6. Base oscilloscope model may receive Agilent’s standard 15% education discount while applying 100% promotion discount on the eligible options." , the problem is that i am a student, and not the education client (university) and they aren't sure i can have both discounts (wavegen + 15% off).

If not i will try to use dave 15% off method.
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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 02:41:44 pm »
I have a question about first oscilloscope. I' am from europe and here analog scopes are quite expensive 100€+ and 20-30€ for shipping.

I HAMEG HM203-6 2 chanel 20MHz scope good for 110€ total with shippment for a beginner?

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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 09:23:08 pm »
Ok guys i need slight help about deciding which scope for anxeous learner to buy, bare in mind i am from Europe (expensive continent) :D

My total buget with shipment is max around 160€ , i would just need quick brief opinion about them are they good or not worth it or not.

here are few i found:

Tektronix 466  - bid atm 49€ (owner is unknown to osciloscopes and does not knwo if it is fully functional)
http://www.ebay.at/itm/TEKTRONIX-466-OSZILLOSKOP-OSCILLOSCOPE-Tasche-Anleitung-/220913992710?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Ger%C3%A4te&hash=item336f800406#ht_698wt_1396

Tektronix 2215A - bid atm 22.5€
http://www.ebay.at/itm/2-Kanal-Oszilloskop-Tektronix-2215A-/330659201415?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Ger%C3%A4te&hash=item4cfcd30187#ht_1766wt_1396

Phillips PM 3240 50MHz NO bids (starting price 135€)
http://www.ebay.at/itm/Oszilloskop-Philips-PM-3240-2-Kanal-50-MHz-/120831976381?pt=DE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger%C3%A4te&hash=item1c2225a3bd#ht_500wt_1413

Philips PM 3211   0-15MHz Sell price 129€
http://www.ebay.at/itm/PHILIPS-Oszilloskop-PM-3211-0-15MHz-/250942743227?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Ger%C3%A4te&hash=item3a6d5a62bb#ht_2377wt_1396

Hameg HM203-6 20MHz bit atm 50€
http://www.ebay.at/itm/Hameg-Oszilloskop-HM203-6-HM-203-20-MHz-2-Kanal-Komponententester-/280790134790?pt=Mess_Pr%C3%BCftechnik&hash=item4160657006#ht_500wt_1413

Hameg 203 Top condition sell price 169€ and 0 bids atm
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Oszilloskop-HM-203-TOP-ZUSTAND-/290647752171?pt=Elektroger%C3%A4te&hash=item43abf4bdeb#ht_500wt_1413




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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2011, 07:34:51 am »
Tektronix 466  - bid atm 49€ (owner is unknown to osciloscopes and does not knwo if it is fully functional)
http://www.ebay.at/itm/TEKTRONIX-466-OSZILLOSKOP-OSCILLOSCOPE-Tasche-Anleitung-/220913992710?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Ger%C3%A4te&hash=item336f800406#ht_698wt_1396

Tektronix 2215A - bid atm 22.5€
http://www.ebay.at/itm/2-Kanal-Oszilloskop-Tektronix-2215A-/330659201415?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Ger%C3%A4te&hash=item4cfcd30187#ht_1766wt_1396

Phillips PM 3240 50MHz NO bids (starting price 135€)
http://www.ebay.at/itm/Oszilloskop-Philips-PM-3240-2-Kanal-50-MHz-/120831976381?pt=DE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger%C3%A4te&hash=item1c2225a3bd#ht_500wt_1413

Philips PM 3211   0-15MHz Sell price 129€
http://www.ebay.at/itm/PHILIPS-Oszilloskop-PM-3211-0-15MHz-/250942743227?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Ger%C3%A4te&hash=item3a6d5a62bb#ht_2377wt_1396

Hameg HM203-6 20MHz bit atm 50€
http://www.ebay.at/itm/Hameg-Oszilloskop-HM203-6-HM-203-20-MHz-2-Kanal-Komponententester-/280790134790?pt=Mess_Pr%C3%BCftechnik&hash=item4160657006#ht_500wt_1413

Hameg 203 Top condition sell price 169€ and 0 bids atm
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Oszilloskop-HM-203-TOP-ZUSTAND-/290647752171?pt=Elektroger%C3%A4te&hash=item43abf4bdeb#ht_500wt_1413

The Tek 466 is ancient.
The 2215A is an excellent beginner scope
The Philips 3240 is very nice, both traces shown working.
The 3211 is a bit low on bandwidth for the price, the 3240 is a much better buy. No traces show, just X-Y mode.
The Hameg's would be good for the price. Traces shown on one of them.

Out of those I'd pick the 3240 as the best as safest buy, but it maxes out you budget.

I haven't translated the text though.

Dave.
 

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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2011, 08:35:51 am »
Thanks Dave for fast reply.

quick google translation is here: used 2-channel oscilloscope PM 3240 with 50 MHz bandwidth. Time Delay with very diverse functions, private cubicle.
  The housing shells have scratches and impurities of stickers.

  The oscilloscope is tested and ready for use.

As an accessory to the original cover with probe PM 9010/201 (10 Mohm / / 16.5 pF, 10:1, 500V max) tested, and the German operation manual and service manual with schematics will be supplied on CD in PDF format.


basicly it has probe and manuals sadly in german so ill have to get one in english via internet, it is also tested and it is working. I will go for that based on your post, thank you again for kindness:)

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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2011, 08:55:07 am »
Well, it does seem to be the only scope out of the bunch that is tested and working?, and shown with waveform in the photos.
The others sound like they would be more of a gamble.
Nothing worse that buying an untested scope and it has a major problem.
With a probe and the service manual, it sounds like a good deal. Price wise I'm not sure for your country, but if it's within your budget then why not.

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Re: First Personal Scope
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 09:30:14 pm »
Hi again to evryone :)

I am back with some questions since i didnt get analog scope so far. I got outbided on Philips and Hameg, few days ago i was also outbided on Gould 4 chanell oscilloscope.

So i was wondering if all prices go 200+ in europe, is it really smart to get analog oscilloscope or just go and buy new digital one like Atten or Rigol for up to 300€ with shipping,(maybe some extra discount if distributer is kind).

example:

1. http://www.ebay.at/itm/SUPER-PREIS-Fluke-2-Kanal-100-MHz-Oszilloskop-PM3065-/230657349052?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Ger%C3%A4te&hash=item35b43fd5bc#ht_4464wt_1163
100MHz Philips-Fluke analog scope 229+ shipping

2. You get Rigol DS1052E 50MHz for approx. 299€ no shipping

3. Atten 60MHz approx 250€ no shipping

4. UNI-T UTD2102CEL 100MHz 290€ no shipping

Lots of others digitals that are brand new under 300€


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