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As is known to all, rigol ds1052e can be upgraded to 100MHz, so lots of people buy a ds1052e and use it as ds1102e, This result in rigol ds1102e cannot sell. Rigol's warehouse overstocking a huge number of ds1102e, they cutting the price unavoidably.

You may remember me as i have post a topic at EEVblog: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=467.0
Lots of friends had bought ds1052e from my store, now, i highly recommend DS1102E to you for it cost performance.

You can get Rigol DS1102E at here: http://www.dealexcel.com/rigol-ds1102e-ds-1102e-digital-color-oscilloscope-100mhz-dual-ch_p321.html

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 06:21:18 am »
$100++ price different? i dont think its tempting enough ??? people will still buy 50MHz ver and hack to 100MHz and save the money IMHO.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 08:23:04 am »
I think it's dealexel that's over stocked, not rigol  ;D
 

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 09:34:34 am »
I don't think dealexcel even has significant warehousing capacity, it's probably just web.to.taobao model...
 

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 11:04:49 am »
let me give my opinion to reduce overstock. send back 1102 back to factory to re-badge the sticker and downhack back to 1052, and sell. ;)
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 11:23:20 am »
easier than that, just sell them for $50 more than the 50MHz version or increase the price on the 50MHz version
 

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 01:27:22 pm »
or increase the price on the 50MHz version
if i havent buy the 1052, i'll ask you to delete that suggestion.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 02:06:01 pm »
well essentially they are the same machine, the 1052 was sold slightly cheaper and the 1102 was sold for a bit more, if they just made the 1012 and sold it for the average price  ;D
 

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 06:28:52 pm »
I'd buy a DS1102E for $450 USD over a DS1052E for $400 and hacking it.  :)
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 06:30:56 pm »
yea me too, what with the risk of wreking it plus the certainty of loosing warranty it would be very reasonable
 

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 02:21:12 am »
$100++ price different? i dont think its tempting enough ??? people will still buy 50MHz ver and hack to 100MHz and save the money IMHO.
Hi shafri, you know the DS1102E is very different from DS1052E, even though you have hacked DS1052E to 100MHz, there are also some differents, such as "Equivalent Sample Rate", "Rise Time" etc.. Furthermore, my store also offer a coupon code worth $50, you just need to pay $539.99-$50=$489.99 for this original 100MHz/50MHz Dual Channel Oscilloscope.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 02:30:40 am »
Hi shafri, you know the DS1102E is very different from DS1052E, even though you have hacked DS1052E to 100MHz, there are also some differents, such as "Equivalent Sample Rate", "Rise Time" etc..

Not so. Those differences are enabled in hardware/software by the firmware hack. The hardware of the two machines are identical apart from the badge.

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2010, 02:40:04 am »
I don't think dealexcel even has significant warehousing capacity, it's probably just web.to.taobao model...
Dear Nermash,
we have our warehouse indeed, if you do not trust me, i can give you a web address, you will see our warehouse realtime through a Internet wireless ip camera control panel.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2010, 02:47:39 am »
Hi shafri, you know the DS1102E is very different from DS1052E, even though you have hacked DS1052E to 100MHz, there are also some differents, such as "Equivalent Sample Rate", "Rise Time" etc..

Not so. Those differences are enabled in hardware/software by the firmware hack. The hardware of the two machines are identical apart from the badge.

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 02:52:34 am »
Not so. Those differences are enabled in hardware/software by the firmware hack. The hardware of the two machines are identical apart from the badge.
i'm not sure about eq. samp rate etc, but he got his point for sure. just look at the sticker (top of the lcd) and serial number, thats the difference i think. instead of 1052, we'll have a nice 1102 sticker and instead of DS1ED, u'll have DS1EB on the metalic sticker on top of Blackfin IIRC. ;D and yea $50 for 100MHz rigol approved scope will be quite reasonable.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2010, 03:18:11 am »
i just want to say, DS1102E is a tragical product of rigol.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2010, 03:20:47 am »
not because of itself, but cause of DS1052E can be unscrambled.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2010, 03:29:35 pm »
450! take it or leave it
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2010, 03:41:21 pm »
i just want to say, DS1102E is a tragical product of rigol.

Not really, comercialy maybe but it is a great little value scope, it's just a pity they did the lower speced version and left it so easy tohack
 

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2010, 07:25:53 pm »
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=467.75

I don't think safarir ever got any resolution to his problem did he?

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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2010, 07:31:51 pm »
I don't think safarir ever got any resolution to his problem did he?
poor safarir, i just remember that. he maybe have long gone leaved us in dismayed for not having any resolution. dealexcel! >:( explain!
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2010, 08:12:23 pm »
...i want to cooperate with you.

(Also, read: "I want you to cooperate with me")

Realistically, informed people are not likely to pay +$100 dollars for a scope with the same hardware as a cheaper one; even if they are incapable of changing the firmware! It seems you have three options:
1) return the scopes to Rigol and negotiate the best fee with them (if they care);
2) Just sell the scopes for the going rate (i.e. a DS1052E + $50);
3) Make up the loss by selling it together with some other equipment that people would be interested in.

(Consider also that currency conversions, import taxes and postage all add up as far as the consumer is concerned).


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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2010, 06:46:28 pm »
A fairly good price, IMHO.  $89 is like a 'labor' charge, with warranty etc., is still intact.  Will US or International locations honor the warranty for an item bought in PRC?

$100++ price different? i dont think its tempting enough ??? people will still buy 50MHz ver and hack to 100MHz and save the money IMHO.
Hi shafri, you know the DS1102E is very different from DS1052E, even though you have hacked DS1052E to 100MHz, there are also some differents, such as "Equivalent Sample Rate", "Rise Time" etc.. Furthermore, my store also offer a coupon code worth $50, you just need to pay $539.99-$50=$489.99 for this original 100MHz/50MHz Dual Channel Oscilloscope.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2010, 11:35:26 pm »
poor shipping handling risk.
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Re: Rigol DS1102E $539.99 - cause of DS1052E can be upgraded to 100MHz
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2010, 10:23:13 am »
I don't think safarir ever got any resolution to his problem did he?
poor safarir, i just remember that. he maybe have long gone leaved us in dismayed for not having any resolution. dealexcel! >:( explain!


Dear safari,
i'm sorry about your problem, perhaps our service have been not to your satisfaction, but we have been working hard, perhaps missed some of the problem ssinevitably. You can submit your question again, I think we have to do something to compensate for your losses or comfort your dissatisfaction.
You can submit a question here: http://www.dealexcel.com/faq.html
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« Last Edit: November 16, 2010, 10:26:50 am by dealexcel »
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