Selling a nearly unused Rigol spectrum analyzer

[adadnc]

Hello,

I would like to sell my Rigol RSA3030E-TG spectrum analyzer but I'm unsure what the best way would be. I tried selling once a logic analyzer here and it was a hassle dealing with people who thought they could scam.

Since this device will be more expensive than all I sold until now I'm wondering what the best way would be. Do you guys think it would be worth placing it here for selling or straight go to Ebay? Do you have any other suggestions? Do you know of a platform that has electronic experts and also offers a safe selling solution for buyer and seller?

[coromonadalix]

i would push it to ebay, since it will give the buyer  paypal and or Ebay protections, and you  when you ship it  you need good protections around it, say minimum 2 inches and or a very strong  box

and lastly avoid comments as you faced here ?  and some may or will comment on your low reputation / messages count ...

you'll need to provide buyer protection   outside ebay  for sure

[adadnc]

i would push it to ebay, since it will give the buyer  paypal and or Ebay protections, and you  when you ship it  you need good protections around it, say minimum 2 inches and or a very strong  box

and lastly avoid comments as you faced here ?  and some may or will comment on your low reputation / messages count ...

you'll need to provide buyer protection   outside ebay  for sure

I offered those days an escrow service too. I thought since here are electronics experts and enthusiasts this would be the more interesting place to offer. And at the end I sold the logic analyzer at ebay. Not only comments, there was one user who was obviously trying to scam by sending strange messages with quotes of my messages where he changed to price to a very low value.

Anything else than Ebay with similar protection mechanisms?

[jpanhalt]

Amazon allows sellers of used stuff (see attached snippet).  I have no idea how it works or costs to the seller compared to eBay.

[thm_w]

Paypal provides protection if you sell directly through there, just don't accept "friends and family" payment, and write a proper description/invoice for it. And watch out for fake payment emails.

But ebay is going to get the most views, at the cost of higher fees + taxes for buyer.

Amazon allows sellers of used stuff (see attached snippet).  I have no idea how it works or costs to the seller compared to eBay.

Thats usually their own returns they are selling, not used gear.

[Shock]

I tried selling once a logic analyzer here and it was a hassle dealing with people who thought they could scam.

Did you report this to moderators or Dave for other users protection at the time? I noticed you have deleted some of your history here.

As you have only been here a year and only posted trying to sell things I suggest you list the item on your ebay store.

Should a forum member be interested in making an offer there you both can look at each others sales/purchases history and feedback and correspond to get a better idea of legitimacy.

Keeping the purchase on ebay allows you both to use ebay/paypals seller/buyer protection. Obviously follow their guidelines first and foremost but there are plenty of tips online with practical advice for ebay sellers.

The majority of regular contributors here are not the problem, you can be scammed anywhere and ebay is no exception, they just have a better ability to weed out some of the fraud. The next line of defence is your own diligence (rather than expecting trust).

[adadnc]

I tried selling once a logic analyzer here and it was a hassle dealing with people who thought they could scam.

Did you report this to moderators or Dave for other users protection at the time? I noticed you have deleted some of your history here.

As you have only been here a year and only posted trying to sell things I suggest you list the item on your ebay store.

Should a forum member be interested in making an offer there you both can look at each others sales/purchases history and feedback and correspond to get a better idea of legitimacy.

Keeping the purchase on ebay allows you both to use ebay/paypals seller/buyer protection. Obviously follow their guidelines first and foremost but there are plenty of tips online with practical advice for ebay sellers.

The majority of regular contributors here are not the problem, you can be scammed anywhere and ebay is no exception, they just have a better ability to weed out some of the fraud. The next line of defence is your own diligence (rather than expecting trust).

Hi,

I had a few chats with other users here in the forum and told them the experiences I made, but never did an official report. One user who I'm sure was trying to scam was "philipz" by manipulating the prices in the quotes and then referring to his own message from the past.

Yes, I removed some of the messages, the said user for example wanted proof videos pictures with hand written dates etc. I removed them all. I guess my reputation here is far too low to sell something here. I was trying to figure out alternatives. Obviously Ebay seems to be the best option.

Thank you

[jpanhalt]

Be aware that the same suspicions here of a seller with a low post count exist on eBay.  That's obvious.  One way around that is to consign your items to a seller with a greater sales history.   Someone local, who hopefully you know, is probably preferred.

For some items, such as used airplane parts, there are specialty markets.  eBay does have listings, but the prices there seem quite inflated.  An alternative site is Trade-a-Plane.  It was in existence long before eBay and still exists.  The cost structure is quite different than for eBay.  I haven't checked whether any roughly equivalent sites exist for electronic equipment.  The only thing similar I know of are Ham Fests.

[reef.pi]

Don't get me wrong, lots of talking, no action.

Just list it for sale, describe it well, take some good photos, do a video of the unit working.

You may find someone local intersted who can travel to pick it up.

If I wanted it bad enough and the price is good enough, I'll figure out a way to securely get it.

Good luck with your sale.

[coromonadalix]

but the op at the same time want to be acknoledged in his reputation,  we gave him many advices

It's a matter of doing things right form the sale descriptions, pictures,  packaging, and give the buyer confidence and protection,   take photos (1 with address on it) when all is packed as a "sent" proof,  i do it when post office put his tags on it,   it will become the carrier responsibility if claims has to be done, do take tracking and insurance options

i would say the packaging is very important at this time of year  ...  could be some bumpy rides

and the buyer can give good feedback(s)  as many did here,  and his rep will rise

 

[adadnc]

I guess it all stays and falls with the reputation here and since I don't have that it will probably end like the logic analyzer.

Local pickup would be the best solution of course, no hassle shipping and trust of course is a different level and buyer can test the device here.

Thank you very much to all of you 

[pope]

Is anyone familiar with machinio? Is it trustworthy? I knew nothing about it up until a couple of weeks ago.

[adadnc]

Is anyone familiar with machinio? Is it trustworthy? I knew nothing about it up until a couple of weeks ago.

Unfortunately not, but looks like a platform for construction machinery.

[CatalinaWOW]

The hidden message in this (and all similar requests) on this and other platforms.  I want maximum dollars for my precious, and I don't want any cost of selling.

If you are worried about scam artists conning you dump the problem off on a professional service and accept that they will only pay you a portion of the sales price.  That is their profit PLUS covering the various risks involved.

If you can't get buyers because they don't trust you, the same answer applies.

There are modifications of these answers, such as offering to pay insurance or demanding local, cash, face to face sales but they all have various costs (money, time, inconvenience, smaller market etc.).

My own experience is that scams, while not rare, are not terribly common.  I have sold literally hundreds of items with no scam buyers, but I do know several people who have encountered single instances of this.  Perhaps you are over worrying the situation.

TAANSTAAFL

[jpanhalt]

Craigslist used to be a great option in the US.  It was bought by eBay (I believe) and is not the same.  But, it is still good for stuff you can sell locally.  Some sellers ship, but I have never bought anything that needed to be shipped by that means.  Google AI says "Mobile.de" is similar.

Their business model allows listing and selling of sundry items (most) for free.  There were charges for only a few items, like apartment rentals,  and of course, there is paid advertising.  I have gotten several things that are not the usual used baby clothing from individuals.  Examples:  An  84" JD flail mower almost unused, and in September this year, a 4-ft LandPride rotary tiller in good condition.

Camera and 3D stuff are common.  Good electronic equipment is considerable less common in the US.

[pope]

Is anyone familiar with machinio? Is it trustworthy? I knew nothing about it up until a couple of weeks ago.

Unfortunately not, but looks like a platform for construction machinery.

You can also find quite a lot TE. HEre's an example

https://www.machinio.com/models/keithley/2000

I'm just a bit surprised I've never heard of it before.

[PA0PBZ]

The German local site is https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/

[adadnc]

Is anyone familiar with machinio? Is it trustworthy? I knew nothing about it up until a couple of weeks ago.

Unfortunately not, but looks like a platform for construction machinery.

You can also find quite a lot TE. HEre's an example

https://www.machinio.com/models/keithley/2000

I'm just a bit surprised I've never heard of it before.

I just saw those larger machinery, I've not heard of them too, interesting. Thank you

[adadnc]

The German local site is https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/

I know Kleinanzeigen, I'm unsure, but Kleinanzeigen is for low valued goods.I think Ebay is the best solution here.

[thm_w]

Craigslist used to be a great option in the US.  It was bought by eBay (I believe) and is not the same.  But, it is still good for stuff you can sell locally.  Some sellers ship, but I have never bought anything that needed to be shipped by that means.  Google AI says "Mobile.de" is similar.

You are thinking of kijiji. Very few people use kijiji or craigslist where I am, I only use facebook marketplace.
No real protection there if you ship something, so just rely on regular paypal. But at least you can see seller ratings and feedback.

I don't know if its a thing in Germany though, you'd have to be in a relatively large city to find people interested.

[adadnc]

Craigslist used to be a great option in the US.  It was bought by eBay (I believe) and is not the same.  But, it is still good for stuff you can sell locally.  Some sellers ship, but I have never bought anything that needed to be shipped by that means.  Google AI says "Mobile.de" is similar.

You are thinking of kijiji. Very few people use kijiji or craigslist where I am, I only use facebook marketplace.
No real protection there if you ship something, so just rely on regular paypal. But at least you can see seller ratings and feedback.

I don't know if its a thing in Germany though, you'd have to be in a relatively large city to find people interested.

Same problem with Kleinanzeigen. Local pickup, which is a good solution actually for such a device where the buyer can even test, but finding someone in your city isn't that easy. There are offers in Kleinanzeigen that were placed in April this year and still unsold.

[coromonadalix]

for a start   not being rude

put photos here and self tests  and see ??  and put a price tag on it ?

if the price get attention from potential buyers ?

as of now,  you seem to have 2 options, 1 here, 1 ebay ?

[reef.pi]

My point exactly, why not just advertise it anyway?

You think local as in someone in your city. But you ignore potential buyers from large near by cities. Driving 1-2 hours on German autobahn is not a big deal IF the product is valuable for a potential buyer.

Ebay or here or whatever, if you truly want to sell it, just do it, list it in every fashion you can think of and worry later about things like reputation. As I have said, if you genuinely want to sell it and someone else wants to buy it, you guys will figure it out.

[adadnc]

for a start   not being rude

It was not my intention to be rude, I apologize if I was unintentionally rude.

Yes, I'll offer it here and on Ebay the next days.

[coromonadalix]

sorry it was me saying "i don't want to offence you" or "being offensive"

when i say   put photos here,  it can help you sell the items, and with all comments written so far   it could end in a successful way for you

i'm native french i may use bad english terms