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(discharged) Super capacitor in checked luggage on airplane?
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: wraper on January 17, 2023, 09:53:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: Robert763 on January 17, 2023, 09:17:32 pm ---So why do you think it is OK to carry a prohibited item? They are prohibited for good reason. You either had a actual or potential weapon or something that was a risk to aircraft / passenger safety.
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There was totally no risk. It just falls into oxidizing agents category which is prohibited. Why? Because I needed this drying agent for gas analysis to do my job. As of dangers, if there was condition when it would pose some danger, it wouldn't be our main trouble as it decomposes at 250oC and there wasn't that much of it to begin with.
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That's a pretty good example of the Dunning Krueger Syndrome: an amateur that thinks they know more than the professionals who understand the dangers because of long experience and because they face the possible consequences every day.I
Too would be right at home in the extreme right wing of the UK Conservative party, who are planning to make a bonfire of all the EU regulations. That's bonfire in the Geenfell Tower sense.
Many safety rules in many fields are apparently unnecessary. But they are all there because of previous accidents - many of which would not could not have been predicted by people like yourself.
Now if you can't think of the potential dangers when oxidisers get loose, then .... I'm surprised in a bad way.
wraper:
--- Quote from: Robert763 on January 18, 2023, 07:19:14 pm ---People have died because oxidisers were carried on passenger aircraft.
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Please list at least one accident.
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: wraper on January 18, 2023, 10:01:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: Robert763 on January 18, 2023, 07:19:14 pm ---People have died because oxidisers were carried on passenger aircraft.
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Please list at least one accident.
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i'm curious too.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: wraper on January 18, 2023, 10:01:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: Robert763 on January 18, 2023, 07:19:14 pm ---People have died because oxidisers were carried on passenger aircraft.
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Please list at least one accident.
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Don't bother, of course.
If you did bother to find and list an occurrance, he would find a way to dispute its relevance. There is, after all, no true Scotsman.
hans:
Maybe this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Airways_Flight_295
I really only punched in 'oxidizer airplane incident', minimum effort. Some research points to oxidizer material as cause.
Nonetheless, this sounds like a classic for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
One can point to hazardous materials (like Lithium batteries) that are considered OK and carried in/out everyday. Why not reinforce those rules as well?
Well maybe because the real danger is on other materials because you never hear someone about it's story, because there is no one to tell that story, and the story does not tell itself because the plane and/or bag in cargo hold is long gone after the incident.
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