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| DiTBho:
--- Quote ---hi there =) wow, what an very interesting object you listed. It's rather hard to find in Europe. I don't understand if you are a private seller or a company; in order to avoid misunderstandings, may I ask you to clarify? I am considering the customs fees, which may vary of +10% in this case, I am tempted to click on "buy it now", but first I have to estimate the full money it will cost. Let me know Thanks --- End quote --- --- Quote ---We are a small business. --- End quote --- :palm: Why the palm-face? What's wrong? Well, again ... so this man is a small one-man business but on eBay this dude isn't respecting the simplest rule ever: if you are a small business, you should have to write your company's name and your company's phone number and/or you should have to declare that YOU are not a private! It should be clear and idiot-proof written! When Americans will understand they should set to a fairly rigid compliance? Especially on customs forms?! Especially when they don't declare anything except an unique voice "the customer paid X" (what is the value of the item? what is the cost of shipping and handling? is the seller a private? ... no information, just "the customer paid X money") and the agent at the customs, since he/she have to process several parcels per day then he/she is tempted to apply the highest fees? It seems to them that it doesn't matter that I, the buyer, waste time (to explain things on the phone/via emails) and money this way !!! Did the latest four US sellers I bought from understand it? It doesn't look so! eBay UK checks for this fairly rigid compliance and enforces sellers to respect it for overseas business, whereas with eBay com that's the 5th times I know this dude is not a private only because I wrote him a PM to ask him directly. -> I think at this point it is best to always ask everything even twice before buying eBay com looks rather different. When you read "covered by protection program" it can get cancelled if the seller writes "no return accepted" which is against European law but it's somehow OK for them, and when you don't read "I am a company" in an auction it may someone who is not even a private, and again it's somehow OK for them. Overseas business done this way is a bit problematic :-// |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: DiTBho on March 29, 2021, 12:21:03 pm ---When Americans will understand they should set to a fairly rigid compliance? Especially on customs forms?! Especially when they don't declare anything except an unique voice "the customer paid X" (what is the value of the item? what is the cost of shipping and handling? is the seller a private? ... no information, just "the customer paid X money") and the agent at the customs, since he/she have to process several parcels per day then he/she is tempted to apply the highest fees? --- End quote --- Buying from private or business results in exactly the same taxes. I do not excuse any other shenanigans in customs declaration. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: DiTBho on March 29, 2021, 12:21:03 pm --- [...] It seems to them that it doesn't matter that I, the buyer, waste time (to explain things on the phone/via emails) and money this way !!! [...] --- End quote --- Maybe we should avoid electing governments that make life so hard? Things don't need to be this complicated... |
| DiTBho:
--- Quote from: wraper on March 29, 2021, 02:21:44 pm ---Buying from private or business results in exactly the same taxes. --- End quote --- No they are not even close! Buying from private or business results in not the same in UK and in Europe. First of all, there is a different value from which you have to pay fees, second, and most importantly, there are also different responsibilities therefore different cost, not mentioning that if you declare "private" and you are a "company" there is also a fine to pay like the fine I had to pay for the mistake done by the seller when I imported a second-hand laptop from the us. Let me say, that story was so damn annoying, I wasted 5 weeks of my times in total, two days at the phone and ~ 100 euro for the fine I paid and for what? I had to return the laptop in the US because it was also the wrong laptop! I suggest you to read the customs documentation to avoid to commit these mistakes, as well as I suggest sellers to correctly prepare the customs documentation and consider it as a form of respect for the customer! |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: DiTBho on March 29, 2021, 04:42:07 pm ---Buying from private or business results in not the same in UK and in Europe. --- End quote --- Tax is the same, any tax threshold is the same. VAT free threshold is different only if it's declared as a gift. --- Quote ---First of all, there is a different value from which you have to pay fees --- End quote --- Goods value is the same regardless of who ships it. In what miraculous vary value suddenly changes depending on who ships it, except when it's falsely declared? |
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