Author Topic: [solved] [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent  (Read 13790 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2021, 04:00:50 pm »
eBay now require that the seller says what type of service will be used though - so if the listing says "courier" it should be a courier (I have occasionally sued a faster service than advertised at my own cost though).

Precisely :D

Also, when you ask money for a service eBay uk checks if the price is reasonable or inflated for that service, and if it's found inflated the auction is closed. It's based on statistics, and you can't say "ok, I will charge you 34 USD for a 10 USD soft-bag shipping because there are +20 for handling".

It doesn't sound fair to me. I was a seller on eBay since 2007, when I shipped abroad via UPS I never asked any additional Euro/Pounds/Dollar as "shipping and handling cost",  but rather charged a flat cost of 18 euro for up to 40x40x30cm 3Kg via UPS second class!

I shipped more than 150 parcels between 2019 and 2020, my customers always only paid for the service, they never paid extra costs, and I never asked them to pay for my time for packaging.




As you can see, even if I have never charged additional costs and I have always used flat shipping costs , eBay considers my services a bit expensive: look at the five stars, I have 4.8 points rather than 5.0.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline grumpydoc

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 2931
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2021, 04:21:10 pm »
eBay considers my services a bit expensive: look at the five stars, I have 4.8 points rather than 5.0.
Yes - the eBay points thing is fairly draconian.

eBay used to be a dodgy seller's delight but they cleaned up their act a lot (probably they had to before they were forced to) but it did make life a lot harder for small sellers.

BTDT
« Last Edit: March 22, 2021, 05:28:45 pm by grumpydoc »
 
The following users thanked this post: DiTBho

Offline james_s

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 21611
  • Country: us
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2021, 04:58:33 pm »
In my Utopian view of the world of online transactions no-one should average 5 stars. An average no issues transaction should be 2.5 stars. But that ship has sailed long ago. Now with 5 stars the default for problem free transactions you can't distinguish the sellers who'll go above and beyond. Perhaps the feedback reports are of some help but who reads those in detail. I just check the negative ones to see if there is a consistent pattern I would be concerned about.

I don't know when or how it happened that 5 stars became "normal" and anything less is a failing grade. I almost never award 5 stars for anything, unless they truly went above and beyond. If that screws them over, well, too bad, something is wrong with any system where anything less than a full 5 stars is screwing someone over. 4 stars is perfectly reasonable for good solid service.
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2021, 06:37:42 pm »
4 stars is perfectly reasonable for good solid service.

for eBay it's not this way. I had a phone call conversation with one of their operators, she told me that if a seller goes down to "less than 4.0" stars there is a timer that starts counting days, and if the seller doesn't resume back to 4.1 stars within some months (I don't remember how many) eBay will kick the account out.

So, 4 stars is NOT perfectly reasonable for good solid service, and it's not reasonable to give 4 stars to a seller for a good service because this way you damage his/her reputation.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2021, 07:02:47 pm »
Copy from Paypal
Quote
Purchase details
Seagate 5GB Compact Flash Type II ST1 Drive Hard Drive CFII Card (Qty 2)
19,98 USD

Shipping
34,98 USD


Total
54,96 USD



Shipping: 34,98 USD -> it's in the same price range as Fedex but a lot cheaper and slower service!
In this case I would vote this way:
  • "Reasonable postage cost" should get a valuation of 2 stars, because inflated and inadequate
  • "Communication" should receive 0 stars since name calling and offensive speaking should be not tolerated!
  • "Delivery time" ... shouldn't be voted due to the delays caused by the epidemic emergency, so I would give 5 stars here
  • "Accurate description" ... I ordered a couple of working micro-drive, I received two damaged units, but I wouldn't give 0 stars here, since so it's somehow coherent and I think the problem was caused by a poorly packaging, which has been already considered in the first point, Reasonable postage cost

This is how I would vote for this episode: 2, 0, 5, 5. Plus a negative feedback because the seller refused to solve the problem!
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline james_s

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 21611
  • Country: us
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2021, 07:06:42 pm »
for eBay it's not this way. I had a phone call conversation with one of their operators, she told me that if a seller goes down to "less than 4.0" stars there is a timer that starts counting days, and if the seller doesn't resume back to 4.1 stars within some months (I don't remember how many) eBay will kick the account out.

So, 4 stars is NOT perfectly reasonable for good solid service, and it's not reasonable to give 4 stars to a seller for a good service because this way you damage his/her reputation.

Sorry, it's not my problem that ebay's system is broken and administers draconian penalties for someone who does a perfectly acceptable job. If enough people took action instead of simply going along with this ridiculous rating system they would be forced to make it more reasonable. 4 stars is a good rating to me, 5 is exemplary. If they want 5 stars for average good service then give the option of more than 5 stars for excellence.
 
The following users thanked this post: DiTBho

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2021, 07:12:36 pm »
Yup! I fully agree! But eBay is that way. I just wanted to tell you how it works for them.

Quote
The positive Feedback percentage is calculated based on the total number of positive and negative
Feedback ratings for transactions that ended in the last 12 months, excluding repeat Feedback from the same member for purchases made within the same calendar week (eBay time).

Note: This could mean that the number of ratings used for this calculation is different from the same number shown in the recent ratings table on the left.

Positives / (positives + negatives)

This member's 12-month Feedback ratings Positives: 71 Negatives: 0 This member's positive Feedback percentage 71 / ( 71 + 0 ) = 100%
And that's what they tell about feedback.

Plus, now I know eBay can cancel a negative feedback when the seller has some privilege. It was written by one of their operator, I reported a piece of the answer in one of my previous post.

The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline wraper

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 17952
  • Country: lv
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2021, 07:21:52 pm »
But that doesn't seem what is happening here? The OP seems distressed that the shipping charges were 35$ while the stamp on the enveloppe only is 15$?
:palm: He got worse (and much cheaper) shipping service than was advertised, besides other issues.
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2021, 07:25:41 pm »
more than 5 stars for excellence.

The label "Top seller" is for this.

I am not a "Top seller" because I have 4.8 stars and eBay classifies me as "Seller above the standard".

5 stars -> "Top seller"
4.7..4.9 -> "Seller above the standard"
..................... I don't know here ................
4.0..4.1 -> "Seller under observation" (the operator told me that on the phone)
< 4.0 -> probably the seller will be banned because it represents a risk for the community
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline Ice-Tea

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 3229
  • Country: be
    • Freelance Hardware Engineer
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2021, 07:32:01 pm »
But that doesn't seem what is happening here? The OP seems distressed that the shipping charges were 35$ while the stamp on the enveloppe only is 15$?
:palm: He got worse (and much cheaper) shipping service than was advertised, besides other issues.

Did he? It's not clear to me if the object was advertised with courrier shipping or whether this is the conclusion of the OP based on the price. Also: if the item arrived within the eBay advertised timeframe or something close to it (Covid) I still feel the.. well, can't call it dismay I suppose, outrage? annoyance?  is a bit over the top.
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2021, 08:33:26 pm »
It's not clear to me if the object was advertised with courrier shipping or whether this is the conclusion of the OP based on the price.

Quote
USPS First-Class International is not only the most efficient way to send a package or a letter but also the economical way. The First-Class Mail International is the most affordable service for sending postcards, flats, and letters to more than 180 countries along with Canada.

Though it may take some time for your package to reach its destination as compared to the other mail classes that are more expensive, you will be able to save a lot with international First-Class mail.

on eBay, he wrote "several shipping options available" Then he used "USPS First-Class International", which doesn't allow you to have a phone number added as contact because there is no courier and the little parcel/soft-bag travel as "mail", so you will receive it delivered by a postman.

UPS and Fedex have this service so they contact you on the phone to organize a delivery.

The cost for soft-bag shipped via USPS First-Class International is 14..15 USD. I paid 35, and the seller wrote "no problem, I will add the phone contact to the tracking", which is impossible with this service unless you use a carrier (you can write a phone number in the "note field", but nobody will call you on the phone), so it was my conclusion based on the price and the said "I will add the phone number to the tracking".

if the item arrived within the eBay advertised timeframe or something close to it (Covid) I still feel the.. well, can't call it dismay I suppose, outrage? annoyance?  is a bit over the top.

eBay estimated Mon 13, February 2021 as "delivery date", the parcel took a very very longer time, but I wouldn't complain for this, I am tolerant about delays caused by Covid et all.

What I don't tolerate is goods arrived damaged because the packaging is both inadequate and overpaid!
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2021, 08:38:21 pm »
In the meanwhile, I have just found and immediately bought a couple of new micro-drive from Bonanza.
We will see, we will see  ;D

(I have to resurrect my second Japanese Linux, PDA, both these two microdrive will go inside it)
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline Brumby

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 12413
  • Country: au
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2021, 02:53:14 am »
Quote
and they should have worked out all the necessary costs involved and clearly declared them in the listing.
To a point - the seller should put the p&p clearly on the item but I don't think a break down of costs is necessary. eBay now require that the seller says what type of service will be used though - so if the listing says "courier" it should be a courier (I have occasionally sued a faster service than advertised at my own cost though).

Apologies for not being clear here.

What I meant to say was that the seller needs to work out all the details and then present the result in the listing for all the shipping options they are offering.  A breakdown is not relevant, only the bottom line.

Unless there is a special case, a buyer should be able to look at a listing and know exactly the total cost of acquisition.  Even with special case situations, a total figure should be set in stone before pulling the trigger.
 

Online coppercone2

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 11336
  • Country: us
  • $
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2021, 03:07:46 am »
Well I won a minimum bid auction recently and the mailer mailed it to me, I left a very good review.

Then I bought 3x DIP40 chips, the mail got lost and went to other country by accident, when I got it the tube was bent and one of the chips was cracked, so I sent a picture to the guy and he refunded me 33% of the price, thought it looked like it was not his fault.

So I think ebay is great. I sold a few things myself and sometimes it was barely worth it because of shipping (Alaska risk) but I still did it because its still money and its pretty easy.

I also had one guy that tried to raise shipping costs on me, so clearly he was not happy, so I asked him to cancel the transaction instead of fighting someone in another country (he was a cheap ass Canadian) to honor an arrangement. A little annoying but OK. Thats what I call a bait and switch or lack of research on shipping cost. If you put a shipping price you need to accept the gambling risk, I usually did because the net effect was money for me despite a few under performering auctions, usually you don't get hit too hard by the edge cases and the profit flows nicely. IMO its pretty good work so its better to have the system function and have flow then nit pick, people seem to forget you can always sell more stuff, some people have this 'OMFG ITS THE LAST JOB IM EVER GONNA DO ON EBAY I NEED TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS', those are usually the frustrating ones.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2021, 03:13:37 am by coppercone2 »
 

Offline NiHaoMike

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 9320
  • Country: us
  • "Don't turn it on - Take it apart!"
    • Facebook Page
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2021, 03:21:58 am »
In the meanwhile, I have just found and immediately bought a couple of new micro-drive from Bonanza.
We will see, we will see  ;D

(I have to resurrect my second Japanese Linux, PDA, both these two microdrive will go inside it)
Any reason not to use a SD card in a SD to CF adapter?
Cryptocurrency has taught me to love math and at the same time be baffled by it.

Cryptocurrency lesson 0: Altcoins and Bitcoin are not the same thing.
 

Offline Harshadb13

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 28
  • Country: in
  • A DIY electronics enthusiast
    • My Instructables
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2021, 04:20:19 am »
Had they mentioned that the item works perfectly?

PS: I love aliexpress and never had a problem with them
« Last Edit: March 23, 2021, 04:24:10 am by Harshadb13 »
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2021, 11:17:27 am »
Any reason not to use a SD card in a SD to CF adapter?

Lot of reasons. Starting from, because I don't like it, ending with because I have already tried a couple of SD-to-CF adapters and none of them has ever worked with my PDA.

I have also bought a couple of compact flash cartridges from Amazon for a different project. Amazon prime will deliver the parcel in 1-2 days. I love Amazon! Serious and fast shipping! Fair price, excellent assistance, and no question on returns! If you want to return something, you return it and get refund! Just do it!

With eBay ... "sorry, the seller wrote no-returns in his auction, so you cannot return, claim-closed"
I repeat the problem, again the same answer. "item not as described". "sorry, you cannot reopen the claim". Two days wasted trying to contact them again, and again, and again, I repeated the same sentence something like four times with zero progress, and I am seriously tired to spend my time phoning Paypal to have these stupid things sorted out!

On the phone, the Paypal operator explained me that Paypal has a limited number of cases per year you can appeal. I thanked him, and asked Paypal to sort out the problem, and I am now going to prepare a return parcel. They will wait for a proof of delivery, then they will refund me entirely, but I won't waste my future options this silly way because eBay's been sucking more and more lately.

That's all. Problem solved  ;D
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2021, 12:43:39 pm »
If you put a shipping price you need to accept the gambling risk

The seller should be responsible for any damages cause during the shipping, unless these damages are caused by natural disasters, traffic accidents, coup d'état, Godzilla going out for a walk in the postal vans ... I don't know, things like these  :-//

If the goods arrives damaged because the seller had prepared an inadequate packaging, who is the fault? is it the postman's fault?

That seller put two fragile Micro ElectroMechanical Hard Disk Drive (microdrive) units into a soft-bag without any protection, and it's like putting a fragile glass in a soft-bag, what state do you think it can get to?

So, asking +20 euro would make sense if *and only if* the seller is able to put some expanse foam inside a rigid parcel around the disks. Will it cost more than how he paid for a soft-bag? Yes, but I paid extra 20 USD for what? His "handling time", which what practically does it mean?

What did he do in practice? He put a soft layer of paper around the two disks, and put them inside a soft-bag.

He must have thought: "for sure it will work and I will make an extra $20, I just don't see what can go wrong"!

A true genius  :-DD

[ some humor ]
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 
The following users thanked this post: Harshadb13

Offline SilverSolder

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 6126
  • Country: 00
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2021, 02:16:28 pm »
If you put a shipping price you need to accept the gambling risk

The seller should be responsible for any damages cause during the shipping, unless these damages are caused by natural disasters, traffic accidents, coup d'état, Godzilla going out for a walk in the postal vans ... I don't know, things like these  :-//

If the goods arrives damaged because the seller had prepared an inadequate packaging, who is the fault? is it the postman's fault?

That seller put two fragile Micro ElectroMechanical Hard Disk Drive (microdrive) units into a soft-bag without any protection, and it's like putting a fragile glass in a soft-bag, what state do you think it can get to?

So, asking +20 euro would make sense if *and only if* the seller is able to put some expanse foam inside a rigid parcel around the disks. Will it cost more than how he paid for a soft-bag? Yes, but I paid extra 20 USD for what? His "handling time", which what practically does it mean?

What did he do in practice? He put a soft layer of paper around the two disks, and put them inside a soft-bag.

He must have thought: "for sure it will work and I will make an extra $20, I just don't see what can go wrong"!

A true genius  :-DD

[ some humor ]

Sounds like a good example of what my English friend would refer to as a t*sser, or possibly a w*nker!  :D
 
The following users thanked this post: DiTBho

Offline Gregg

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1156
  • Country: us
Quote
Sounds like a good example of what my English friend would refer to as a t*sser, or possibly a w*nker! 
Or more likely a tweaker  |O
The seller shows many of the symptoms of a chronic meth user.
 
The following users thanked this post: SilverSolder, DiTBho

Offline AntiProtonBoy

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 988
  • Country: au
  • I think I passed the Voight-Kampff test.
Re: [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2021, 11:48:27 pm »
In all honnesty: he does have a point. To expect hime to charge the same for shipping as he is being charged is not realistic. His reasoning is entirely sound.
Sorry, but if you can't hack managing shipping costs, then you should NOT be in the business of selling anything. When you sell an item, you factor in all the risks and expenses into the price of said item. IF the item ends up being too expensive to list, then perhaps it's not worth selling? Welcome to the free market.
 
The following users thanked this post: rsjsouza, wraper

Online coppercone2

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 11336
  • Country: us
  • $
yeah I get bad packaging alot but I typically buy such fucked up equipment that I do them a favor and don't complain because if its on ebay

1) i am already getting a deal
2) its going to be alot of work to repair it, fighitng with back and forth shipping might just cause worse damage
3) given all the other repairs that need to be done a bit of a glue job is no problem (invest in a good plastic glue system, i.e. DP8810, Loctite Prism, plastic sensitizer

Then you are only left with problems on small parts that crack where the tensile strength of the glue does not compare to the original part, but typically that's cheap. Half the time I know I am lucky that the seller even shipped it for the price I get, so I don't complain unless its totally broken like a chip thats cracked in half. Like I got a bad banana jack on a lab amp, but on the other hand, I ended up taking it apart because it was cracked and lubricating the switches and cleaning it up and all this kinda stuff I might not have done, and I found a problem I would have missed!

Some people try to run ebay like you are doing purchasing for a high end aerospace company (note I said high end), but with 60 year old equipment and prices penny on the dollar. Give it a rest, it will never happen unless you run into those mad men with a injection foam machine or something like that. Even they don't really care unless its like.. going to the military  :scared:

And most of the time it pays off if its damaged because if I bend a shitty chassis back into shape, I might as well paint it instead of having another mangey cow boat anchor around.

Thankfully they put the ASIC's deep into the unit so they are usually fine (what you are paying for). And you get more education when you fix it anyway, so its wortwhile.

When I consider the normal service hours number required to bring old gear back into good shape, the extra repair is usually less then 10%. And half the time the part was in such bad shape that your just basically getting a free stress test from the mail man to remove bad system elements (fighting over a rotten banana jack for instance!)


My super duper tip: if you sell equipment, get another piece of styrofoam and poke holes in it and tape it over your switches and shit, even if the gear is sent wrapped in a paper bag it will likely survive OK then. Id prefer that to ineffective bubble wrap to be honest. Most of the time its packed with high quality bubble wrap *unnecessarily good* but the stuff in front is not protected, that is the important part.

Better then a real supplier sending you nicely packed loose pliers (jesus!)
« Last Edit: March 24, 2021, 05:25:45 am by coppercone2 »
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb
How can you repair two micro drive whose heads crashed on the disks? How do I open the microdrive's body without further damaging its internals?

Buddy, I hear the metallic sound of motor that tries to spindle the disks but it cannot because the heads are crashed into the disks due to a probable very violent impact. Probably the package fell to the ground and the protections were ineffective. And how can I eliminate the scratches left by the heads crashed on the discs?


[ edit: added pic, do you see the screenshot? when Linux reports errors with the sector-0, it means the disk is gone. Badblocks can not even test it because it's badly and seriously damaged. In fact, I hear the "sound of death", the metallic sound made by the motor that tries to spindle the disks and ... accelerates and then brakes because it can't move them. It's gone! Dead! RIP! ]


Can you really "repair" this?

so I don't complain unless its totally broken

I would say "I am not able to repair it, so it's totally broken", so what do you do in this case?

I got nothing but insults from the seller, and I have enough of buying from people who thinks like you! I don't want to put everyone in the same basket, but it seems the most of Americans on eBay have a distorted view of things to the point that they probably think that eBay is like the garbage fair where no-one needs behave like a pro, in fact, holy god, it's the third time I buy from eBay com and I find myself broken, unusable goods, and a seller who does nothing but behave like a deranged bully who is only able to insult.

Today I shipped back the two damaged micro drive, and I want my money back, and I won't no more buy anything from eBay com!

End of the story.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2021, 10:25:17 am by DiTBho »
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline DiTBhoTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4366
  • Country: gb



Last summer I bought a laptop from a dude in the US. It arrived damaged, but in this case I am 100% sure damages were not caused by the shipping but rather "a different laptop".

In fact, the seller initially insulted, then when Paypal intervened in the dispute, the seller changed his version of facts

Quote
Thanks for sending these pics. Looks like the wrong laptops have been packed to your address. I'll send you a postage label later.
There are two options:
A) Pack and send then back as you received it with the charger and i will refund in full including postage.
B)I can offer a discount if you still want to keep them. Let me know how much discount.

My apologies again for the inconvenience. If you want I can send you a replacement and you can use this one till you get the replacement and are satisfied with it. This way at least your work can carry on.
Kind regards

Anyway, this is a screen shot of his auction with my comments. Note "no return", the seller initially refused to find a solution, eBay com immediately closed the claim in his favor, and I had to claim to Paypal.

That's a "common behavior pattern" with eBay com! That's annoying because eBay UK doesn't behave this way. I have never had these problems with eBay UK! I mean eBay Uk has never closed a claim for "return not accepted"! And this way is more serious business!

That's why I say "I won't buy anything more from eBay com!"
« Last Edit: March 24, 2021, 12:39:53 pm by DiTBho »
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow
 

Offline rsjsouza

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 6105
  • Country: us
  • Eternally curious
    • Vbe - vídeo blog eletrônico
I was going to mention that it may be a problem with overseas transactions - who knows? Perhaps the bad sellers feel more at ease to play shenanigans with foreigners.

Despite I have received a badly packaged item here and there from various sellers worldwide (and from different portals: eBay, Offerup, aliexpress, banggood), I tend to be very conservative and refrain from ordering anything ultra-heavy or mechanically fragile over courier. Being in the US this is a lot easier to do, given the second hand electronics market is quite hot.

Anyways, good luck with the return.
Vbe - vídeo blog eletrônico http://videos.vbeletronico.com

Oh, the "whys" of the datasheets... The information is there not to be an axiomatic truth, but instead each speck of data must be slowly inhaled while carefully performing a deep search inside oneself to find the true metaphysical sense...
 
The following users thanked this post: DiTBho


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf