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[solved] [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
AntiProtonBoy:
--- Quote from: Ice-Tea on March 22, 2021, 09:29:32 am ---In all honnesty: he does have a point. To expect hime to charge the same for shipping as he is being charged is not realistic. His reasoning is entirely sound.
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Sorry, but if you can't hack managing shipping costs, then you should NOT be in the business of selling anything. When you sell an item, you factor in all the risks and expenses into the price of said item. IF the item ends up being too expensive to list, then perhaps it's not worth selling? Welcome to the free market.
coppercone2:
yeah I get bad packaging alot but I typically buy such fucked up equipment that I do them a favor and don't complain because if its on ebay
1) i am already getting a deal
2) its going to be alot of work to repair it, fighitng with back and forth shipping might just cause worse damage
3) given all the other repairs that need to be done a bit of a glue job is no problem (invest in a good plastic glue system, i.e. DP8810, Loctite Prism, plastic sensitizer
Then you are only left with problems on small parts that crack where the tensile strength of the glue does not compare to the original part, but typically that's cheap. Half the time I know I am lucky that the seller even shipped it for the price I get, so I don't complain unless its totally broken like a chip thats cracked in half. Like I got a bad banana jack on a lab amp, but on the other hand, I ended up taking it apart because it was cracked and lubricating the switches and cleaning it up and all this kinda stuff I might not have done, and I found a problem I would have missed!
Some people try to run ebay like you are doing purchasing for a high end aerospace company (note I said high end), but with 60 year old equipment and prices penny on the dollar. Give it a rest, it will never happen unless you run into those mad men with a injection foam machine or something like that. Even they don't really care unless its like.. going to the military :scared:
And most of the time it pays off if its damaged because if I bend a shitty chassis back into shape, I might as well paint it instead of having another mangey cow boat anchor around.
Thankfully they put the ASIC's deep into the unit so they are usually fine (what you are paying for). And you get more education when you fix it anyway, so its wortwhile.
When I consider the normal service hours number required to bring old gear back into good shape, the extra repair is usually less then 10%. And half the time the part was in such bad shape that your just basically getting a free stress test from the mail man to remove bad system elements (fighting over a rotten banana jack for instance!)
My super duper tip: if you sell equipment, get another piece of styrofoam and poke holes in it and tape it over your switches and shit, even if the gear is sent wrapped in a paper bag it will likely survive OK then. Id prefer that to ineffective bubble wrap to be honest. Most of the time its packed with high quality bubble wrap *unnecessarily good* but the stuff in front is not protected, that is the important part.
Better then a real supplier sending you nicely packed loose pliers (jesus!)
DiTBho:
How can you repair two micro drive whose heads crashed on the disks? How do I open the microdrive's body without further damaging its internals?
Buddy, I hear the metallic sound of motor that tries to spindle the disks but it cannot because the heads are crashed into the disks due to a probable very violent impact. Probably the package fell to the ground and the protections were ineffective. And how can I eliminate the scratches left by the heads crashed on the discs?
[ edit: added pic, do you see the screenshot? when Linux reports errors with the sector-0, it means the disk is gone. Badblocks can not even test it because it's badly and seriously damaged. In fact, I hear the "sound of death", the metallic sound made by the motor that tries to spindle the disks and ... accelerates and then brakes because it can't move them. It's gone! Dead! RIP! ]
Can you really "repair" this?
--- Quote from: coppercone2 on March 24, 2021, 05:19:17 am ---so I don't complain unless its totally broken
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I would say "I am not able to repair it, so it's totally broken", so what do you do in this case?
I got nothing but insults from the seller, and I have enough of buying from people who thinks like you! I don't want to put everyone in the same basket, but it seems the most of Americans on eBay have a distorted view of things to the point that they probably think that eBay is like the garbage fair where no-one needs behave like a pro, in fact, holy god, it's the third time I buy from eBay com and I find myself broken, unusable goods, and a seller who does nothing but behave like a deranged bully who is only able to insult.
Today I shipped back the two damaged micro drive, and I want my money back, and I won't no more buy anything from eBay com!
End of the story.
DiTBho:
Last summer I bought a laptop from a dude in the US. It arrived damaged, but in this case I am 100% sure damages were not caused by the shipping but rather "a different laptop".
In fact, the seller initially insulted, then when Paypal intervened in the dispute, the seller changed his version of facts
--- Quote ---Thanks for sending these pics. Looks like the wrong laptops have been packed to your address. I'll send you a postage label later.
There are two options:
A) Pack and send then back as you received it with the charger and i will refund in full including postage.
B)I can offer a discount if you still want to keep them. Let me know how much discount.
My apologies again for the inconvenience. If you want I can send you a replacement and you can use this one till you get the replacement and are satisfied with it. This way at least your work can carry on.
Kind regards
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Anyway, this is a screen shot of his auction with my comments. Note "no return", the seller initially refused to find a solution, eBay com immediately closed the claim in his favor, and I had to claim to Paypal.
That's a "common behavior pattern" with eBay com! That's annoying because eBay UK doesn't behave this way. I have never had these problems with eBay UK! I mean eBay Uk has never closed a claim for "return not accepted"! And this way is more serious business!
That's why I say "I won't buy anything more from eBay com!"
rsjsouza:
I was going to mention that it may be a problem with overseas transactions - who knows? Perhaps the bad sellers feel more at ease to play shenanigans with foreigners.
Despite I have received a badly packaged item here and there from various sellers worldwide (and from different portals: eBay, Offerup, aliexpress, banggood), I tend to be very conservative and refrain from ordering anything ultra-heavy or mechanically fragile over courier. Being in the US this is a lot easier to do, given the second hand electronics market is quite hot.
Anyways, good luck with the return.
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