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[solved] [little rant] eBay seller charges +20 USD because he has to pay rent
wraper:
--- Quote from: DiTBho on March 26, 2021, 09:11:25 pm ---
* you get 1 stars, you will be immediately kicked out from eBay but your name and surname won't be written in their blacklist
* you get 0 stars, you will be immediately kicked out from eBay and your name and surname will be written in their blacklist, as well as reported to the authorities of competence in order to prevent crimes
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Be real. Such nonsense will kick out many excellent sellers (and keep all others in fear) just because some random idiot or scammer buyer decides to abuse the system (extort seller) or just leaves bad rating randomly. If something like this is implemented, ebay will cease to exist very soon. I received negative feedback just because buyer was an idiot (no issue with item) and could not be bothered to google about his (perceived) issue or contact me first.
DiTBho:
--- Quote from: wraper on March 26, 2021, 09:17:05 pm ---Be real. Such nonsense will kick out many excellent sellers
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That's precisely what happened in 2009 (Google for it, and you will read it), and what's happening now!
--- Quote from: wraper on March 26, 2021, 09:17:05 pm ---just because some random idiot or scammer buyer decides to abuse the system (extort seller) or just leaves bad rating randomly.
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You probably mean some idiot or scammer sellers! To whom eBay gives too many chances to get back in line, and in the meanwhile the continue to put nothing but garbage for sale and, worse still, don't assume any responsibility for what they do!
wraper:
--- Quote from: DiTBho on March 26, 2021, 09:28:56 pm ---You probably mean some idiot or scammer sellers!
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I mean fraudulent buyers of which there are way more bad actors than sellers. They abuse system a lot even as it is. They can easily ship you back box of bricks and get both goods and money. Allowing them to have ability of single handedly destroying a seller is simply insane. Example: https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Victim-of-buyer-fraud/td-p/28471713
Example2: https://turbofuture.com/internet/How-To-Scam-People-On-Ebay
--- Quote ---I sold a rather large item on eBay. The buyer received it and put in a dispute stating that it did not work. It was a lie, as I had fully tested it and knew it worked, but there was nothing I could do. I accepted that he was lying and offered a full refund if he returned the item. He agreed, but then sent me an empty box via UPS. He provided the tracking number to eBay and they automatically gave him his money back. I told eBay that he sent me an empty box and they asked me to take a picture of the label to show that the box only weighed as much as an empty box would weigh. "Okay" I said. Guess what? He sent the package with a label he printed online that said he paid for a 12 lb. package! There was nothing I could do!
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helius:
I'm frankly surprised by the lack of research and understanding shown in this thread, given the venue is an electronics engineering forum.
eBay's policies are not complicated and you can read them fully in only a few minutes. Why don't you do that? If you did you would learn all about the Buyer Protection Program and Item Not As Described claims. Instead you just ignored the policies and did it your own way because you assumed how it should work?
To me this is just bizarre. What do you do when faced with a STM32 chip with a 500 page datasheet? The same, well I guess I'll do this because I assumed ... ? Good luck with that!
wraper:
This buyer scam happened to me in particular:
--- Quote ---If the tracking says that the item was delivered, it is a little more difficult. In this case, you have to be very creative. You could say that the tracking is wrong and that you never received a package and that no one signed anything for a package so there is no proof you got it.
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Surprisingly paypal refunded buyer from their own pocket, not mine. Buyer provided address with post code of main post office of the city. Of course tracking showed delivery with actual post code for his address. Then buyer claimed it was delivered not to him because tracking shows wrong postcode. I uploaded google maps screenshot with particular post office located something like 50 meters away from his address.
--- Quote ---Dear **** ****,
We’ve completed our review of this case. Due to the unique circumstances, we've decided to refund the buyer at no cost to you.
Your account won't be debited and the case has been closed.
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