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| gnuarm:
Many years ago a friend was about to send an affidavit using my fax when I asked what it was for. She was responding unknowingly to scammers who were trying to fight her Paypal complaint that they hacked her account and transferred thousands of dollars into their accounts. They had sent her an affidavit to return to Paypal to say she no longer disputed the charges and they should be released to the scammers which she did not read properly. So this is all on the scammers so far. But I wanted to contact Paypal and have a criminal investigation initiated with the police. There is always a way to catch then by following the money. So I called Paypal and spoke with a lady in the XYZ department. After listening to the situation she gave me another number to call. I contacted the ABC department only to find they were not the right ones and sent me to the JKL department who referred me to the MNO department. Then I was sent to the PDQ department only to recognize the voice of the lady at the XYZ department!!! I called her on the run-around and got her to take the full report. However, I knew nothing would come of it. Online fraud was a big thing and Paypal was not going file any police reports. They wanted it to never be seen in any statistics! I've found both eBay and Paypal to be largely deficient in supporting the buyer. However... the credit card companies are not. So why bother with either of the customer non-support groups when you can just go straight to the credit card company and get it done? At one point Paypal had in their terms and conditions that you could not charge back to them. The credit card companies put an end to that quickly enough. Don't even get me started with Aliexpress. They are the worst and I don't even think about trying to get a refund from them. Hell, there's no person to talk to and if you were to reach a person they just tell you to use the online forms which are worthless. |
| Ed.Kloonk:
That is a very good point, regarding the credit card companies. |
| MrMobodies:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on March 27, 2021, 10:28:16 pm ---98% of the times, sellers are super helpful. E.g. just recently I bought a pack of 3 NOS vintage diodes. One turned out to be defective. Contacted seller with a picture showing my meter testing the dud diode compared to a good one. He slipped another one in the post with no further ado. You can get a long way if you begin by assuming that the seller is "OK and trying to do a job". --- End quote --- And there's some of them that can try to be sneaky and ban you after returning non described/faulty things: I ordered a Dell battery for a raid controller in about 2018 advertised as tested and working. When it turned up and I plugged it in the controller wouldn't detect it. So I measured it and the voltage was just too low. So I contact the seller, I think I showed showed the meter reading and the seller refunded me which was great and explained they get so many of them and that one could have been missed. I asked if they can test and confirm a working one and I'll buy again. The seller replied that they can't guarantee it and warned me not to buy another it also might be unchecked. Anyway a year after I wanted to ordered something going for a good price and I get a message something like "The seller isn't accepting any offers from you...". That's strange, did I buy something from this seller and they got upset that maybe forgot to leave them feedback, so I searched their name on email and turned out to be that Dell Raid battery listing. Actually just checked and no longer there by that name but a search shows the same creditations under a different profile. It seems they have either changed the name to "sierra-indigo" or had another account and I am still banned from buying see pictures. A neutral feedback about someone else who ended up with low batteries: https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/sierra-indigo?filter=period:TWELVE_MONTHS,overall_rating:Netral --- Quote ---Put batteries in, immediately came up, warning batteries low Set of 4 New Replacement Batteries for Barclays Bank PINsentry Card Reader LR44 (#193195351094) Buyer: o***o (455) GBP 1.30 Past year Reciprocal feedback- View feedback left by sierra-indigo for the member who left feedback for sierra-indigo --- End quote --- The seller did the right thing and refunded me but by banning me and I believe they may have things to hide. See pictures. |
| SilverSolder:
I know people that run eBay businesses. Let's just say that buyers can also get quite "creative" with how they act... Bottom line, scammers are scammers and they like the anonymity of the on-line world. But the eBay protections work... ...speaking of which, I get to test it now! I bought a Bluetooth keyboard described as "used" and it was delivered today. Turns out it doesn't work on some of the letters, but only if SHIFT is pressed! ... and this is AFTER I stupidly left positive feedback, complicating things further! So, any bets on how that will turn out? I will write the seller tomorrow and tell him the bad news. Let's see how he plays it... |
| gnuarm:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on March 28, 2021, 12:23:47 am --- I know people that run eBay businesses. Let's just say that buyers can also get quite "creative" with how they act... Bottom line, scammers are scammers and they like the anonymity of the on-line world. But the eBay protections work... ...speaking of which, I get to test it now! I bought a Bluetooth keyboard described as "used" and it was delivered today. Turns out it doesn't work on some of the letters, but only if SHIFT is pressed! ... and this is AFTER I stupidly left positive feedback, complicating things further! So, any bets on how that will turn out? I will write the seller tomorrow and tell him the bad news. Let's see how he plays it... --- End quote --- If the protections work, why would you be concerned? I never leave positive feedback because you only have 60 days to do so and that it is a one shot deal. Once positive is left it can't be changed if the unit craps out. Often I haven't received an item until 45 days have gone by. If it weren't for the credit card protections I would never use Ebay and the like. Never. Why not write them now? Ebay is a 24 hour deal and the sooner you report it, the better. My real complaint with eBay is that they don't care about fraud. I bought 18 gauge zip wire from a Maryland company and though it looked skinny, but didn't give it much thought. Then I was using the entire 50 ft roll to charge a battery at 2 amps and noticed a significant voltage drop, so I measured it with micrometers. It read 3 wire sizes below what it was marked, 21 ga.! On top of that the insulation has the company's name and gauge embossed!!! It's hard to imagine they would be getting undersized wire with the company name on it and not know. It was too late to do anything about that purchase, so I bought some 16 gauge later on. Without realizing this was the same company! (seems they are the low price seller of this type of wire on eBay) So when it came I immediately checked and it was also 3 sizes too small, 19 ga instead of 16. i filed a dispute with eBay and the guy wants me to mail it back on my dime! So I used the credit card to get a refund. At this point I'm ready to target the guy. I looked up the MD web site and if I wanted to get enough evidence and claim I'm a MD resident, I could get them to take action against the guy. Thinking I might do that I bought 14 ga wire which measured as 17 ga and got a refund the same way. Then 12 ga wire which was 15 ga with the same result. The problem was I willing to put some time into it, but not willing to let the guy have my money so I could claim being defrauded. Oh well. I now have enough free wire to trip over and I know where to get more if I need it. I just have to calibrate the gauge appropriately. |
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