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Title: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: gamalot on August 18, 2016, 06:01:02 am
I got this email today cuz I have a Kikusui electronic load at custom, how should I replay it properly in English?

Thanks!
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Community Protection Questions

Hello,
Thanks for your Import Declaration V643464. I have entered the information you provided into the Integrated Cargo System (ICS) computer system.
ICS now requires an answer to the Community Protection questions below concerning the declared products: KIKUSUI PLZ334W DC ELECTRONIC LOAD

CP ID 555 - AUST COMMUNICATIONS AND MEDIA : COULD THESE GOODS ADVERSELY EFFECT, PREVENT OR DISRUPT RADIOCOMMUNICATIONS, AS DESCRIBED UNDER SECTION 190 OF THE RADIOCOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1992?

CP ID 400 - AUST COMPETITION & CONSUMER CO : ARE THESE GOODS HAND HELD INSECT ELECTROCUTORS (COMMONLY KNOWN AS MOSQUITO BATS, MOSQUITO ZAPPERS, ELECTRIC FLY SWATTERS OR THE LIKE) POWERED BY A STORAGE BATTERY CAPACITY EXCEEDING 6 VOLTS OR THE ELECTRIFIED GRID IS NOT SHIELDED BY A PROTECTIVE GRID LAYER?

Please reply to this email with your answer(s) to the above questions. No further processing of your Import Declaration is possible until the above question(s) are answered.
NB: IT IS AN OFFENCE TO MAKE FALSE DECLARATIONS TO THE AUSTRALIAN BORDER FORCE.

Kind Regards
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: TheSteve on August 18, 2016, 06:02:52 am
I think you can just reply with "no" to each question.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: ez24 on August 18, 2016, 06:11:15 am
PM me so you can send it to me  :-DD so you do not have to deal with them.  I will personally write them a letter.

Or say No No   (this sounds familiar)

Funny they are so stupid.  Doesn't this kind of stupidity drive you crazy.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: gamalot on August 18, 2016, 06:20:54 am
 Is it really that simple? I am not a native English speaker, I just don't wanna be rude or impropriety.

Thank you guys!

Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: ez24 on August 18, 2016, 06:38:59 am
Most bureaucratic policies have evolved over time in light of experience. That's probably because they didn't have your input.
What I meant that they probably do not know how to use their database.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: ez24 on August 18, 2016, 07:27:24 am
OP you could test your obscenity laws and say

Fu** NO you GD MF

This is what my ex neighbor (I moved) says to the police.  It is not against the law to cuss out a policeman (boy was I surprised the first time).  He would cuss at them so much and loud they would always send 2 cars to control each other.

I once called animal control and the police read me the riot act because I did not report their address (I reported mine and said they were behind my house) and a female animal control officer showed up ( they were suppose to be two officers).  Somehow word got to the sheriff and they came running then when it was over they read me the riot act for placing her in harms way  :-//.  This helped me decide to move.

I do not know about other civil workers.  Do this at your own risk.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: Halcyon on August 18, 2016, 10:13:12 am
Just answer the questions directly. "No" and "No" like others have already suggested. No need to volunteer any other information or explanation. If they want further information, they'll ask. This is just part of their standard dip sampling. Nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: EEVblog on August 18, 2016, 10:27:13 am
Is it really that simple? I am not a native English speaker, I just don't wanna be rude or impropriety.

Yep, that simple.
Write it politely like:
"Answer to questions below:

*copy paste*
Answer: No.

*copy paste*
Answer: No.

Regards"
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: Brumby on August 18, 2016, 11:58:50 am
Just use the format Dave has presented.

They aren't interested in fancy wording or pretty presentation - just clear answers to the questions.

The purpose is to have an official record of your answers that could be used as evidence - if necessary.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: Red Squirrel on August 20, 2016, 04:02:55 am
I would throw in some basic explanation, as they probably have to put a reason why somewhere.  Like some form they file or something.   

Though I've always been curious about if those HV mosquito rackets mess up certain radio frequencies when activated.  For the price you get them at I doubt they undergo any kind of testing. Regardless, they're fun as hell!  >:D
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: ez24 on August 20, 2016, 05:40:50 am
I would throw in some basic explanation, as they probably have to put a reason why somewhere.  Like some form they file or something.   

Though I've always been curious about if those HV mosquito rackets mess up certain radio frequencies when activated.  For the price you get them at I doubt they undergo any kind of testing. Regardless, they're fun as hell!  >:D
I think this would be worse than my answers  :-DD
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: george graves on August 20, 2016, 06:40:35 am
Don't give more info then required.

"No." or "No it does not" is fine.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: Brumby on August 20, 2016, 06:48:24 am
Don't give more info then required.

"No." or "No it does not" is fine.

Absolutely.

Just answer the questions.   Don't volunteer any additional information.   It will only
 (a)  confuse them and/or
 (b)  invite further questions and/or
 (C) annoy them for making them have to read more than they needed to.

IF they need anything more - they will ask.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on August 20, 2016, 07:07:07 am
Don't give more info then required.

"No." or "No it does not" is fine.
+1 - anything more can only add confusion - these are admin people who are establishing of it falls under certain regulations, they wouldn't know an electronic load from a mosquito bat.
 They have asked a simple question to which "no" is a perfectly valid answer.


Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: gamalot on August 20, 2016, 08:25:03 am
Thank you guys! Thanks for all your replies,! Thanks again!  :)
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: jitter on August 20, 2016, 08:52:03 am
You could also reply with "yes"  and see what can of worms you just opened...  and post the results here :-DD

More seriously: what are they worried about? The second question almost reads like you could cross out "fly swatter"  and insert "taser"...
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: Brumby on August 20, 2016, 09:20:35 am
You could also reply with "yes"  and see what can of worms you just opened...  and post the results here :-DD

More seriously: what are they worried about? The second question almost reads like you could cross out "fly swatter"  and insert "taser"...

You're going to land the guy in gaol!
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: PartialDischarge on August 20, 2016, 09:28:13 am
We're from the government and we are here to help
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on August 20, 2016, 11:07:02 am
You could also reply with "yes"  and see what can of worms you just opened...  and post the results here :-DD

Without reading the regulations referred to, but assuming it's about EMC, then strictly speaking, "Yes" would  be a correct answer to the first question, which would doubtless trigger a request to see EMC conformance documentation, though it is reasonable to assume it conforms with applicabe standards, so "No" would still be reasonable.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: jitter on August 20, 2016, 12:06:18 pm
You could also reply with "yes"  and see what can of worms you just opened...  and post the results here :-DD

More seriously: what are they worried about? The second question almost reads like you could cross out "fly swatter"  and insert "taser"...

You're going to land the guy in gaol!

In gaol (or "jail" as I would write it)?

What happens if he says "no" to the second question, and the DUS (Device Under Scrutiny) appears to have had no compliance testing of any kind whatsoever?

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NB: IT IS AN OFFENCE TO MAKE FALSE DECLARATIONS TO THE AUSTRALIAN BORDER FORCE.

Edit: hmm, it's a Japanese company, chances are "no" is the right answer. I wouldn't have bet my life on it had it been some no name Chinese product... It's one of the reasons why I opted to buy my Maynuo DC electronic load through a third party rather than directly online.
Title: Re: [NEED HELP] How should I reply this email from Australian Border Force?
Post by: Brumby on August 20, 2016, 01:49:27 pm

In gaol (or "jail" as I would write it)?


Synonymous.