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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2016, 09:03:30 am »
Can you explain this?
As I said, reckless russian mentality, where human life has no value.
Same mentality in China.
China!  :o
A number of cases exist in Czech Rep. and Slovakia. Punishments for killing is lower than for injury. According to traffic accidents. In other words - funeral bill is cheaper than lifetime invalidity rent. :o

Similar situation with self-defense in case of attack. When I am attacked and I have to retaliate and draw my handgun in worst-case, try to shoot him in head. Easier trial for defender.
A very good example from CZ, gypsy attacked a man with knife and stabbed him. He managed to withdraw his Glock lying in blood on the ground and shoot him in stomach and he died.
He was considered innocent by court, what raged numbers of human right defenders who were shouting "rasism rasism". This case brought some hope that justice in CZ exists.

Ad) There is a well known saying. Punishments for avoiding taxes in CZ and SK are higher than for murder. You know, murder is reasonable. :o
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2016, 12:58:50 pm »
China!  :o
The BMW driver who drove over the 3 year old's head to make sure he was dead was only following the Chinese philosophy "TO GET RICH IS GLORIOUS!" Barbarians and money don't mix.

 

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2016, 05:32:59 pm »
Can you explain this?
As I said, reckless russian mentality, where human life has no value.
Same mentality in China.

The BMW driver who drove over the 3 year old's head to make sure he was dead was only following the Chinese philosophy "TO GET RICH IS GLORIOUS!" Barbarians and money don't mix.

Thanks to one of the biggest misinterpretation in Chinese history. In 1984 China's leader (actual leader without presidency) made these words: "No matter a black cat or a white cat, the cat that catches mouse is the good cat".
His original idea was to convince stubborn people who resists economic reform, and his word is apparently a metaphor of saying "no matter communism or capitalism, the one who makes economy better is the better one".
But seems like as capital accumulation in China has reached a point, everyone interprets his words as "no matter ethical or not, the ones that make money are the good ones", which is sad. The truth is, in most part of China where traditional culture of kindness and respect are practiced, they are not rich. The only places that get rich quickly are the places where the people forget the traditional well beings and do whatever shit to make money.

PS. The news Dave posted is apparently fake, or very outdated. In China we have laws that say if you hit someone and drove away without necessary care, then the victim died, it qualifies at least 3 year imprisonment, up to 7 years ("new" traffic law, circa 2011). If you intentionally kill your victim, that makes it intentional unplanned murder (second degree murder, in US legal system) (this law existed long ago). If you drive and ram into a crowd of people in order to escape, it can be even qualified as "jeopardizing public safety with dangerous behavior", which can be sentenced up to capital punishment (new law, circa 2012, revised 2015). Also, in China, if a mobile vehicle hit a pedestrian, no matter who is at the fault, the driver takes at least 30% "mercy" responsibility. Being said, Chinese drivers drive rude, but apparently nobody wants to get his ass in jail. Don't forget we are the country that still actively practices capital penalty. Despite the case of execution declines year by year, it will never be cancelled. Even if at some point it was not practiced anymore, it will still be there just to warn the rude barbarians -- hey, if you do shit, you may be executed.
 

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2016, 05:38:34 pm »
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Can you explain this?

I heard that it stems from the breakup of the USSR and consequence relative wealth of Russians. All of a sudden people could afford a car and drove them, but hardly anyone had lessons or stuff (since they couldn't afford them beforehand, and wouldn't have had access to a car anyway). Thus the level of driving skills is trending to 'atrocious' and a dashcam becomes necessary simple from the number of smashes.
 

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2016, 06:03:21 pm »
Can you explain this?
Easy. This is what happens when you have a dysfunctional law enforcement.

The police is so corrupt that it is impossible no to take bribes, since at the end of the day you will be asked by your commanding officer to give your share. And if you want to be honest, you will be quickly "transferred" to some place else.

And with police mostly focusing on bribes, people know they can get away with a lot of things an d they have no problems violating the law.

This did not happen instantly, it happened with barely noticeable shifts over many years.

And even people, who tried to behave, eventually give up seeing how violators of the law are not prosecuted.
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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2016, 06:06:03 pm »
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Can you explain this?

I heard that it stems from the breakup of the USSR and consequence relative wealth of Russians. All of a sudden people could afford a car and drove them, but hardly anyone had lessons or stuff (since they couldn't afford them beforehand, and wouldn't have had access to a car anyway). Thus the level of driving skills is trending to 'atrocious' and a dashcam becomes necessary simple from the number of smashes.
I've watched a lot of those Russian dashcam videos and it's amazing how the worst wrecks boil down to just a few, easily avoided, causes. Like passing on the right at high speed, driving too fast in slick conditions, and running red lights.  Going into the oncoming lane while passing a line of cars on a snowy road, then losing control when swerving back into the correct lane and then striking oncoming traffic head-on or going into the culvert and rolling is so common you could have hours of video just on that one crash-mode.
I suspect that alcohol is involved in many of those Russian crashes. I've even learned a few Russian words: like "Blyats".
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2016, 06:09:00 pm »
Decent odds on that someone from that channel will get killed or seriously hurt.
There are decent odds this happens even if you just drive normally. There a lots of dash cam videos of Russian road rage.

Why do you think a lot of people have baseball bats in their car? There are no baseball fields and no one plays baseball in Russia, but it is still considered to be sports equipment, so no license to carry is required. And baseball bat does a lot of damage :)

Stop douchebag is mostly a political movement created to attract public attention to the problem, so they mostly do this for really outrageous violations (there is not enough stickers in the world to cover all violators in Russia). So most actions happen in public places, so they are relatively safe.
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2016, 06:10:20 pm »
And with police mostly focusing on bribes, people know they can get away with a lot of things an d they have no problems violating the law.

Also happens in China, in a different way. After doing some shit on road (without huge consequences, just some minor offenses), cops will get you and ask you "do you have some friends at high level"? If so, they will let you to call them, if not, you have to take the ticket and pay the fine. The biggest road offense in China, without hurting anyone, is DUI. It can be sentenced up to 15 days in detention center, and for anyone who works for the government or state owned companies, being sentenced, even as short as 3 days, which is the minimum, means losing your job. Therefore cops and their "high level friends" make a lot of money by taking DUI offenders' bribes.
 

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2016, 06:12:35 pm »
I've watched a lot of those Russian dashcam videos and it's amazing how the worst wrecks boil down to just a few, easily avoided, causes.
All wrecks can be avoided if you simply follow the rules. But not following the rules will bet you places faster. Or kill you, but you don't think about that part until later.

I suspect that alcohol is involved in many of those Russian crashes.
This is actually not true. Drunk driving is pretty uncommon in Russia.

I've even learned a few Russian words: like "Blyats".
It is mostly singular "blyat" :)
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2016, 06:16:08 pm »
cops will get you and ask you "do you have some friends at high level"?
Well this part is automated in Russia. Cops simply look at a license plate. In Russia there are no personalized LP, they are always sequential, but there are ranges that are "reserved" for people who can afford them.

So person driving a car with a license plate "A001AA" will never be guilty of anything :)

Consequentially most of those plates are installed on very expensive cars.
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2016, 06:20:22 pm »
Meanwhile in the US:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/28/us/hit-and-run-body-lodged-in-windshield-trnd/

and not the only time:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/28/us/woman-is-sentenced-to-50-years-in-case-of-man-in-windshield.html

I think with a little effort, one can find people with callous disregard for human life in most cultures, even ones supposedly "civilized".
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2016, 06:22:20 pm »
Well this part is automated in Russia. Cops simply look at a license plate. In Russia there are no personalized LP, they are always sequential, but there are ranges that are "reserved" for people who can afford them.

So person driving a car with a license plate "A001AA" will never be guilty of anything :)

Consequentially most of those plates are installed on very expensive cars.

The same thing, but some riches in China does not want people know he/she is rich.
There used to be a lot of "officer's car license plates" in China starting with letter "O", then abolished because drivers with these license plates are so rude and can always escape without penalty that once at a time, the people complain so much that the government is afraid of social instability.
 

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2016, 06:25:44 pm »
And another purely Russian example - blue buckets movement, which actually had effect.

If you are rich, you could buy a license to have a flashing blue light you can install on your car. This supposedly gives you the right to go through traffic faster.

Here are videos from 6 years ago


Number of people allowed to use them drastically reduced. And all those rich douchebags now driving without the special lights. Still violating the laws, but at least violating them like everyone else, without a preference :)

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2016, 06:29:14 pm »
I think with a little effort, one can find people with callous disregard for human life in most cultures, even ones supposedly "civilized".
Absolutely. There will always be mentally unstable people. But you can't just says "oh, we'll never get them all to behave, so let's just give up altogether".

In the US the system is mostly working fine, so that law enforcement can really focus on cases where it did not work.
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2016, 03:46:05 pm »
In the US the system is mostly working fine, so that law enforcement can really focus on cases where it did not work.

Here is the American version of SAD

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2016, 03:59:12 pm »
Here is the American version of SAD

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2016, 06:17:22 pm »
Here is the American version of SAD

Let's make this a little bit (un)political.
Did you noticed all potential car thieves are of the same color?

A single youtube video is a too small sample, statistically wise.

You need to watch at least 2-3 more videos to have scientific validity.
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2016, 06:49:46 pm »
Here is the American version of SAD

Let's make this a little bit (un)political.
Did you noticed all potential car thieves are of the same color?

A single youtube video is a too small sample, statistically wise.

You need to watch at least 2-3 more videos to have scientific validity.

And from different segregated neighbourhoods, starring different segregated filmmakers friends.
 

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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2016, 06:56:43 pm »
I kind of like it. Some people really think they own the world and can do whatever the f*ck they want.
It's always interesting that they get angry even when people don't even really say something.
Already says a lot.

(why people always ask if the other persons actually works? It's completely irrelevant of the situation  :palm:)

A single youtube video is a too small sample, statistically wise.

You need to watch at least 2-3 more videos to have scientific validity.
5 is the minimum to make a scientifically minimal result. Everything less is invalid!
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2016, 08:15:50 pm »
Meanwhile in the US:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/28/us/hit-and-run-body-lodged-in-windshield-trnd/
The driver was charged with murder yesterday but the police will not say why.
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« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2016, 08:48:12 pm »
Meanwhile in the US:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/28/us/hit-and-run-body-lodged-in-windshield-trnd/
The driver was charged with murder yesterday but the police will not say why.

The story says the driver was charged with "vehicular manslaughter" among other things, big difference.
The local TV news yesterday said murder.  The CNN is dated June 28
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/aug/25/murder-charge-added-fatal-dui-oceanside/
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2016, 10:02:48 pm »
... The crazy Arab guy (an actual Arab) is funny as hell too.

Those videos are made by a group of Arab Australians

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/was-driveby-shooting-prank-wrong-muslim-brothers-attacked-after-girl-caught-up-in-skit/news-story/2070767c117856eedd103d6ce74f3f99

The difference from the other videos here is that the victims are not douchebags and didn't do anything wrong.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2016, 10:05:36 pm by zapta »
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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2016, 02:47:00 pm »
IBTL  :popcorn:
 

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2016, 06:57:02 pm »
1. the existence of an anti-douchebag movement speaks volume about the lawlessness of a country. It is the job of the government to make sure that laws are executed. or you have a 3rd world country.

2. I really enjoy watching dashcam videos. Lots of them from Russia. Not sure why.

3. "Why are Chinese drivers deliberately kill people they hit?" Because dead people cannot talk. If you think the riots are bad, just think how about they would have been if some of the angels had lived to tell the story?

A friend of mine lives in South Africa and his lawyer would him to 1) shoot to kill (an intruder); and 2) fire at least two shots: into the intruder and to the ceiling. Tell the police the other way around.

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Re: [Off Topic] Stop a Douchebag
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2016, 07:41:42 pm »
2. I really enjoy watching dashcam videos. Lots of them from Russia. Not sure why.

Me too.
I think the reason why I like to watch them is to find out what is going on in that country.
There are absolutely no explanations for many of these accidents.
I am trying to find a real reason to understand this.
But may be it is not explainable
 
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