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Re: [Once Again]Windows vs Linux for My New Workstation
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2016, 02:11:49 am »
So, long story short, I have requirements that must use both Windows and Linux, and both of them can be in VM or physical machine. Which one you prefer to be installed in physical machine, and which one in VM, and why?

Using Linux as the host allows you to do this :



PS. you can do it with Xen too of course, which is I think is what unraid does.
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Re: [Once Again]Windows vs Linux for My New Workstation
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2016, 02:40:18 am »
That looks pretty awesome. I do the reverse and run the vm in windows. Hyper-V in windows 10 is very easy to setup butI haven't tried gaming and I doubt it runs anywhere as fast as that.
 

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Re: [Once Again]Windows vs Linux for My New Workstation
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2016, 02:41:34 am »
PS. you can do it with Xen too of course, which is I think is what unraid does.

My VM of choice is always VBox for a couple of reasons:
1. I do not need the KVM or XEN performance,
2. I do need USB2.0/3.0,
3. I need 3D capability for Altium,
4. I do not need crazy 3D performance provided by VMware, I run games on Linux natively (kudos to Valve),
5. I can not use PCIe GPU passthrough as my mobo does not have an iGPU,
6. I like its custom network driver, it is powerful enough to compete KVM/XEN, and it does not use Linux TUN/TAP system so I can have an isolated network infrastructure,
7. I do not like to write config files, nor do I like to use 3rd party config tools.
 

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Re: [Once Again]Windows vs Linux for My New Workstation
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2016, 02:54:35 am »
Marco, thanks for that video. I gather that it is configured to use the GPU card for the KVM Windows session and the inbuilt Intel graphics for the Linux (Archlinix ?). Interesting.

I like Qemu/KVM but I admit was was thinking of Virtualbox for ease of use. But the Qemu/KVM starts very easily from a command line, and so it is dead easy to organise for it to start just after Linux boot automatically, or from a screen icon. I trust it much more then Virtualbox.

I have been running Proxmox on an old machine for 5 years now to run KVM and OpenVZ virtual servers and KVM does impress me a lot. Proxmox is just the simplest way to set up and run a bare metal VM server. One of my virtual servers is a Windows XP virtual PC stripped down to run in 400MBytes of RAM just so I can run some old licence servers. The rest are Ubuntu and Archlinux. My main servers are an Archlinix BTRFS NAS accessing mirrored 3G data drives, A Redmine project management and SVN server on Ubuntu, a Seafile server on Ubuntu (like Dropbox but it is actually able to be genuinely secure) and the Windows XP. These 4 virtual PC's all run happily together on a slow low power dual core athlon-based Proxmox server with 4G ram.

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Re: [Once Again]Windows vs Linux for My New Workstation
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2016, 03:53:50 am »
5. I can not use PCIe GPU passthrough as my mobo does not have an iGPU

An extra PCIe GPU is nothing compared to the hardware you already have. Hell don't you have one? (If you need a PCIE x1 card just dremel down something old.)
 

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Re: [Once Again]Windows vs Linux for My New Workstation
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2016, 03:58:55 am »
5. I can not use PCIe GPU passthrough as my mobo does not have an iGPU

An extra PCIe GPU is nothing compared to the hardware you already have. Hell don't you have one? (If you need a PCIE x1 card just dremel down something old.)

It is a small on-the-top-of-my-desk office computer in an ITX shoebox. There is no slots for a second GPU.
Our office has university managed PCs with lower speed, and I am not allowed to remove them, so I need an extra one.
I packed 18 CPU cores and a full Fiji HBM GPU into a 20*26*28 package -- of course, watercooled.
 

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Re: [Once Again]Windows vs Linux for My New Workstation
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2016, 04:13:03 am »
Marco, thanks for that video. I gather that it is configured to use the GPU card for the KVM Windows session and the inbuilt Intel graphics for the Linux (Archlinix ?). Interesting.

AFAICS he actually does a function level reset and uses it in Linux again when he's done, so he has the high power GPU available in both OS's (obviously not at the same time).
 

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Re: [Once Again]Windows vs Linux for My New Workstation
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2016, 04:25:05 am »
Marco, thanks for that video. I gather that it is configured to use the GPU card for the KVM Windows session and the inbuilt Intel graphics for the Linux (Archlinix ?). Interesting.

AFAICS he actually does a function level reset and uses it in Linux again when he's done, so he has the high power GPU available in both OS's (obviously not at the same time).

Brilliant! I will have to follow this up. I have been using the 3G animation program Blender on Windows and I would love to move to Linux. Near full speed GPU access on both is exactly what I need.
 


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