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| [rant]why do english/chinese companies don't give a damn about other languages.. |
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| GlennSprigg:
--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on March 18, 2020, 02:19:33 am ---Cerebus; My post was actually directed to Glenn and his unintelligible post: They for real does cair!!! Just pleese puttings the happy screws in the exciting panel, and you will be very soon jumpings to the happy tunes!!! :phew: What is he saying? On the other hand, his other post was extremely insulting to you. No doubt about it. --- End quote --- Dear schmitt trigger. I thought I had better respond to this lack of understanding. That 'nonsensical' block of text I first wrote, was a light-hearted tongue-in-cheek reference to the sort of printed instructions to assemble things, that we often see in 'English', when a Chinese manufacturer etc has someone attempt a translation for us! And those instructions often end up with funny words and phrases like that. Most English, Australian & American/Canadian people would have experienced that, and I assume would understand what I wrote. It was not meant to confuse/upset anyone else, or simply anyone for that matter! Regarding Cerebus, he has made (in my mind) certain derogatory remarks about me over the last couple of years, although not lately. I'm suffering from certain 'conditions' now, which leave me in not a good physical/emotional space/place. I know about, and use myself, things like 'smilies' to often indicate when/if I'm 'joking' etc., but sometimes even they can be interpreted as being smug at times, especially as such 'text' does not obviously include such 'inflection of tone'. Because of the past, I DID find his "...your , erm, idiosyncratic approach to English..." as a personal attack. And it struck a chord/(cord?)... So I bit back, as I'm not here to dwell on such things when I speak. :) :) So to Cerebus, I'm sorry for my outburst. I just wish that some other people on this forum would stick to understanding, & replying if they wish to what ever comments people make or questions they pose, without comments that may offend or be misinterpreted. 8) |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: GlennSprigg on March 21, 2020, 01:14:19 pm ---So to Cerebus, I'm sorry for my outburst. I just wish that some other people on this forum would stick to understanding, & replying if they wish to what ever comments people make or questions they pose, without comments that may offend or be misinterpreted. 8) --- End quote --- Thank you. I try not to be gratuitously offensive but I'm also not going to walk on eggshells to satisfy people who are over-sensitive or just looking to take offence. I have never set out to attack you, you have chosen to take perfectly innocuous remarks or polite criticism as attacks (or are genuinely incapable of perceiving them properly) and have responded in a vituperative fashion out of all proportion to my and other people's remarks, even if they had been properly interpreted as a slight, unreasonable criticism, or attack. How would you feel if others laid into you like you did to me above? vis: --- Quote from: GlennSprigg on March 17, 2020, 01:25:23 pm ---I'm sure you have an Orgasm at night in bed, dreaming about your self appointed 'wonderfulness'... Too many 'callouses' on your hand mate, for me to give a fuck about!!! :palm: --- End quote --- I've never used language like that against you or, for that matter, anyone else on this forum. If you think someone's having a go at you, respond politely at first, don't launch into full potty-mouth mode as your first response. Would you respond like that down the pub to a near stranger? No, because you'd have more regard for your physical safety or wouldn't want the barman to kick you out and tell you not to come back. Just for the record, so others can judge objectively quite how mean I've been to Glenn in the past, here's the previous spat that has apparently made Glenn think I've got it in for him: --- Quote from: Cerebus on April 24, 2018, 02:29:10 pm --- --- Quote from: GlennSprigg on April 24, 2018, 02:07:46 pm --- --- Quote from: Cerebus on April 20, 2018, 01:26:44 pm ---Well if you want a peaceful life, why make a post that dredges up some spat you've had elsewhere with Brumby in an unrelated topic? That does seem to be trolling for a response. Oh and please, less smilies, less brackets, less ... ellipses, less random punctuation in general and RANDOM changing into ALL CAPS in the middle of run on sentences. It makes it incredibly hard to read what you've written. --- End quote --- Dear 'Cerebus'..... I was not aware that Mathematics was a favorite topic of 'Aardvarks', or why you read this far? 'HE' was mentioned, because he usually makes some Pious remarks when I post something, & here was no exception ! I have ZERO interest in 'your' thoughts beyond that, so please stick to 'licking ants' mate...... OH... and as for your...... "and please, less smilies, less brackets, less ... ellipses, less random punctuation " diatribe, do you now feel like a 'bigger' 'man' in your personal attack, beyond your apparent need to lick 'someone's' butt (???). Well, every 'punctuation' mark I use is for a reason, as raw text says/highlights/means nothing.......... Ignoring YOU (from now on), will be easy..... Back to the REAL commenters that the rest of us love here..... --- End quote --- You've got troll written all over you mate, otherwise why would you turn a polite request to adopt a more readable writing style into a "personal attack" and spend so much time crafting such a personalised reply. Well, perhaps crafting is too skilled a word for it, but it's clear the intent was to try and get some intemperate response out of me. As to ignoring me, good, but I bet you don't have the self control to let me have the last word. --- End quote --- And there, I hope, the matter is at a close. |
| Macbeth:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on March 17, 2020, 06:20:50 pm ---"Africa" and the huge number of African languages is why Caterpillar (of yellow earth diggers and big trucks fame) developed "Caterpillar English", a simple, restricted vocabulary version of English that could be used for documentation where the local language represented too small a chunk of the market to make it economic to make local translations. They worked on the premise that the penetration of English was sufficient that a simplified version was likely to be acceptable where a translation wasn't feasible. (Often Africans that don't share a common tongue speak a 'pigeon' variety of English to each other even though no native English speakers are involved. Substitute 'Pigeon French' for some parts of Africa.) --- End quote --- Indeed. I recently stumbled on a BBC website and thought it was a joke - it's all the current BBC news in Pidgin English. It's fucking hilarious, surely some dude translating the regular BBC news into some 419 scammers lingo as a laugh. But it's actually real and funded by BBC licence payers - check out https://www.bbc.com/pidgin :scared: |
| andy3055:
That site is amazing! |
| Cerebus:
I had a look and I found it surprisingly readable. I say that because whenever I've encountered transcribed pidgin English before (it's really just a spoken language) I've found it really difficult, at times impossible, to translate back into full blown English. As an English speaker I've found pidgin more 'foreign' than I find French and German. I had a African friend at university try and teach me the basics and it just would not stick, I got nowhere with it. |
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