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b_force:

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--- Quote from: themadhippy on October 22, 2022, 09:09:58 pm ---Even a table lamp with an es lamp base?

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What is the question here?

Any lamp fixture has to be grounded (and therefore connected to a ground), any lamp base is either grounded or double insulated?
A regular light bulb doesn't care, a modern LED bulb also doesn't care?

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It's not very double insulated when you're screwing in the lamp.

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Yes it is, once it is screwed.
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So "no, it isn't".


--- Quote ---Technically speaking one has to call a capable person (like an electrician or licensed handy man), to replace those.
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 :-DD

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What's so funny?

That is actually the case in a lot of places/countries?
Monkeh:

--- Quote from: b_force on October 22, 2022, 10:47:31 pm ---What's so funny?

That is actually the case in a lot of places/countries?

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Not being allowed to change a lightbulb by yourself? That is, in fact, hilarious, depressing, and stupid in equal measure.
TimFox:
How many bond traders does it take to change a light bulb?
james_s:

--- Quote from: IanB on October 22, 2022, 10:31:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: TimFox on October 22, 2022, 09:45:49 pm ---It is a molded 3-prong plug for US 120 V service, at the end of the attached cord for a relatively modern toaster (that has no internet connection).
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I am surprised it is a three prong plug. Every small kitchen appliance I have encountered so far has only had a two prong plug on it.

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My toaster oven, microwave and refrigerator all have 3 prong plugs. Smaller stuff like toasters, hand mixers, popcorn poppers and stuff like that are normally 2 prong.
james_s:

--- Quote from: b_force on October 22, 2022, 09:52:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: Monkeh on October 22, 2022, 09:34:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: b_force on October 22, 2022, 09:33:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: themadhippy on October 22, 2022, 09:09:58 pm ---Even a table lamp with an es lamp base?

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What is the question here?

Any lamp fixture has to be grounded (and therefore connected to a ground), any lamp base is either grounded or double insulated?
A regular light bulb doesn't care, a modern LED bulb also doesn't care?

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It's not very double insulated when you're screwing in the lamp.

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Yes it is, once it is screwed.

Technically speaking one has to call a capable person (like an electrician or licensed handy man), to replace those.
In practice this obviously never happens, but that doesn't matter from a standards point of view.

For those lamp fittings with just a simple two prong cable with a small bulb, it is impossible to touch or reach the metal threat of the lamp receptacle. 
Which is also a form of double insulation.

But it does raise an interesting question or point about those full E27 bulbs standing lamps
I guess one has to follow the manual, which means disconnecting the lamp, remove the bulb, install new bulb and connect the lamp again.
Otherwise there is risk of being zapped. I have actually never thought (and cared) about it to be very honest.

With fixed lamp fittings, the Life and Neutral have to be connected according standards, so in that case it's never an issue.
The default standard procedure there, is to switch of the breaker/fuse first and than replace the bulb.

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I don't think I've ever seen a portable lamp with a grounded cord on it. It doesn't matter though, ES or BC, if you remove the lamp you've got a live exposed contact in the socket. The solution is to teach people not to stick anything in a light socket except for a bulb, and ideally unplug the lamp or turn off the wall switch before doing it.
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