Author Topic: 10 MHz Everywhere!  (Read 8026 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online xrunnerTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7517
  • Country: us
  • hp>Agilent>Keysight>???
10 MHz Everywhere!
« on: April 07, 2017, 06:36:11 pm »
TheSteve started this ...

10 MHz everywhere!



It does seem to be everywhere TheSteve, it's at my house too. In fact it's all over the place here.

Is it at anyone else's house?
I told my friends I could teach them to be funny, but they all just laughed at me.
 

Offline slurry

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 159
  • Country: se
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 06:43:04 pm »
It's in my house too, strange... hmmm...  :D

I run a FE-xxxx Rubidium and usually a re-purposed video distribution amplifier but now a BG7TBL distribution amplifier is used, i'm not really a time-nut so i keep it simple...for now  ^-^
 

Offline TheSteve

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 3753
  • Country: ca
  • Living the Dream
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 06:59:18 pm »
TheSteve started this ...

10 MHz everywhere!



It does seem to be everywhere TheSteve, it's at my house too. In fact it's all over the place here.

Is it at anyone else's house?

Clearly my distribution amplifier is working extremely well.
VE7FM
 

Offline JPortici

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 3461
  • Country: it
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 08:45:34 pm »
I don't trust that 10.000000 (muhuahahaha)
 

Online xrunnerTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7517
  • Country: us
  • hp>Agilent>Keysight>???
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2017, 10:14:36 pm »
I don't trust that 10.000000 (muhuahahaha)

Oh man, now I can't believe you don't trust that.  :)

How can I convince you?  :popcorn:
I told my friends I could teach them to be funny, but they all just laughed at me.
 

Offline Brumby

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 12298
  • Country: au
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 03:25:18 am »


That is an elegant piece of gear.
 

Offline awallin

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 694
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 08:44:44 am »
That is an elegant piece of gear.
Don't turn it on - take it apart  :-/O
 

Offline Brumby

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 12298
  • Country: au
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2017, 08:51:33 am »
If you must .... but DON'T scratch the case!
 

Offline DimitriP

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1307
  • Country: us
  • "Best practices" are best not practiced.© Dimitri
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2017, 09:58:31 am »
I don't trust that 10.000000 (muhuahahaha)

Oh man, now I can't believe you don't trust that.  :)

How can I convince you?  :popcorn:

Add more 000 :)
   If three 100  Ohm resistors are connected in parallel, and in series with a 200 Ohm resistor, how many resistors do you have? 
 
The following users thanked this post: bitseeker

Offline TiN

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4543
  • Country: ua
    • xDevs.com
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2017, 11:16:24 am »
Meh, time-nuts... I don't even monitor my Rb...  :palm:
YouTube | Metrology IRC Chat room | Let's share T&M documentation? Upload! No upload limits for firmwares, photos, files.
 

Online xrunnerTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7517
  • Country: us
  • hp>Agilent>Keysight>???
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2017, 03:12:12 pm »

Add more 000 :)

Hehehe - How many? I'll never be able to add enough to satisfy you - I know how this game goes.  8)
I told my friends I could teach them to be funny, but they all just laughed at me.
 

Offline tszaboo

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7377
  • Country: nl
  • Current job: ATEX product design
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2017, 04:48:39 pm »
So, that means, if you connect the 10 MHz on the front, and on the back of a timer counter, than it will be 10 MHz on the screen?  :-DD
 

Offline PA0PBZ

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 5127
  • Country: nl
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2017, 05:01:54 pm »
So, that means, if you connect the 10 MHz on the front, and on the back of a timer counter, than it will be 10 MHz on the screen?  :-DD

Let me tell you a little secret: It doesn't even have to be 10 MHz  8)
Keyboard error: Press F1 to continue.
 

Offline TheSteve

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 3753
  • Country: ca
  • Living the Dream
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2017, 05:14:10 pm »
That is an elegant piece of gear.
Don't turn it on - take it apart  :-/O

Already done! I had to see the inside.
VE7FM
 

Offline bingo600

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1988
  • Country: dk
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2017, 05:40:54 pm »
That's not an "Everywhere Box"   :-//

This is an "Everywhere Box"   ;) ;)   - 8 x 5 (40) outputs  - I got mine from KJDS
.


https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/fun-with-a-racal-9480-with-ocxo-40-10mhz-outputs-(8x-5-chan)/msg653659/#msg653659

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Racal-9480-10-04B-Time-and-frequency-mainframe-/401010554495

Congrats Steve - I bet it has nice specs.

/Bingo
« Last Edit: April 08, 2017, 05:42:47 pm by bingo600 »
 

Offline TheSteve

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 3753
  • Country: ca
  • Living the Dream
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2017, 05:46:07 pm »
It does look pretty - but does yours accept two inputs and auto fail over to the backup input, while also accepting alarm inputs and generating alarm outputs?  :)
VE7FM
 

Offline bingo600

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1988
  • Country: dk
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2017, 05:54:36 pm »
It actually have a built-in ocxo (or RB) , that it switches to.
If the primary input fails (is undetected)

And it has alarms etc too ...   , yours seems like it's a "next gen" dist-amp though.

I got it because i ran out of chans. on my old distamp , now i have enough

/Bingo
« Last Edit: April 08, 2017, 05:56:21 pm by bingo600 »
 

Offline TheSteve

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 3753
  • Country: ca
  • Living the Dream
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2017, 06:06:41 pm »
Mine is still from the HP era of course. I did some basic testing and its performance seems better then anything I own can measure.
It can have an OCXO fitted internally and will fail to it. I will see if I can get some good pics later. It does seem rather entertaining that a 10 MHz distribution amp would have firmware, a processor, ram, and it communicate via SCPI. I admit I have lusted after one for quite some time, I've made several lowball best offers on them over the last year or two. One was finally accepted.
VE7FM
 

Offline Red Squirrel

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 2750
  • Country: ca
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2017, 09:04:29 pm »
Need one of these too now:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Symmetricom-OT-21-Officetime-Multiplexer-25413150-411-0-/272452367547?hash=item3f6f6d34bb:g:QAwAAOSwcLxYLOIz

And GPS antenna.
 
That's a different kind of "clock" though.  :P  Those GPS antennas also double as lightning rod, my coworker who was in our building when it got hit knows all about that.  :-DD 

I don't know too much about this stuff, just that it's used to sync up communication stuff, but I think they also have an NTP server built in.  Why use time.gov as a time source when you can be your own time source!
« Last Edit: April 08, 2017, 09:06:44 pm by Red Squirrel »
 

Offline TheSteve

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 3753
  • Country: ca
  • Living the Dream
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2017, 04:38:07 am »
The 58502A got its own shelf.

Seems to be bang on....  >:D
« Last Edit: April 11, 2017, 05:49:21 am by TheSteve »
VE7FM
 

Offline tszaboo

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7377
  • Country: nl
  • Current job: ATEX product design
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2017, 09:22:18 am »
So, that means, if you connect the 10 MHz on the front, and on the back of a timer counter, than it will be 10 MHz on the screen?  :-DD

Let me tell you a little secret: It doesn't even have to be 10 MHz  8)
I dont understand time nuts. They can create voltage references, or very accurate currents, but they waste their time on time... :-//


 ;D
 

Offline Berni

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4953
  • Country: si
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2017, 01:01:53 pm »

I dont understand time nuts. They can create voltage references, or very accurate currents, but they waste their time on time... :-//


 ;D

Well at least its a slightly easier hobby than being a volt nut. You can use GPS clocks to verify long term drift of your oscillators. No such thing for checking if your HP 3458A is drifting.
 

Offline Harb

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 244
  • Country: au
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2017, 01:08:22 pm »
I just use a big VDA....I think it has 100 or so outputs.....10 on each euro card.
 

Offline edpalmer42

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 2271
  • Country: ca
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2017, 04:52:10 pm »
I just use a big VDA....I think it has 100 or so outputs.....10 on each euro card.

One 'trap for young players' when you convert a 75 ohm Video Distribution Amp to 50 ohms is total load.  I use a VDA that uses an Analog Devices amplifier.  It can handle 8 75 ohm outputs but only 5 50 ohm outputs.  It's not a big problem because you can daisy chain multiple inputs together.  But it's something to keep in mind.

Ed
 

Offline TheSteve

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 3753
  • Country: ca
  • Living the Dream
Re: 10 MHz Everywhere!
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2017, 05:38:49 pm »
I used a modified VDA previously and the output quality was crap. Obviously they vary in quality like everything else, the one I chose was clearly junk.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2017, 02:38:06 am by TheSteve »
VE7FM
 


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf