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18k for damaged household cable
Monkeh:
--- Quote from: jpyeron on May 16, 2023, 09:31:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: AVGresponding on May 15, 2023, 05:14:49 pm ---The charge for the 2" conduit doesn't add up, at all. $4500? For ~150 feet of conduit @$30/10ft? Surely that's $450?
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Please check my math. Pretty sure I can multiply. :o
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And if they were 1ft lengths, you'd be right, but being that they're 10ft..
jmelson:
MANY years ago, our power went out, first one "phase" then the other. Typical US residential split-240 V power. We had had a large water main replaced along the street, and they moved a part of the main to under the sidewalk, replacing the entire sidewalk between our property and the street. They apoparently nicked the buried power feed, causing the feeder to fail some months later. We called the power company, they put in a temporary feeder laying on the ground and tied it into our meter box. later a contractor dug a hole at the bottom of the pole and installed a patch over the burned-out section.
They never even came into our house, and there was no bill for this. Their patch must have been done well, it has lasted over 20 years. The only thing they said was that our meter box was badly rusted and some day we would have to have it replaced at our cost.
Jon
james_s:
--- Quote from: Gyro on May 15, 2023, 07:11:52 pm ---It's curious that code requires that the service must be upgraded to 200A. Surely as long as the service fuse is appropriately rated, there ought to be no requirement to increase the current availability unless requested by the consumer. Even if the meter socket needs to be updated to support a presumably more modern standardised 200A meter, that wouldn't be an issue for a lower rated service. From what I've seen in various threads over the years, you still have lots of buildings in the US with grandfathered wiring nearing 100 years. It just seems an odd requirement, as it suddenly forces an upgrade of the lower current distribution panel that was presumably still giving resonable service.
Over here, when the network operator replaces a meter, they just screw the existing tails into the new meter and scrupulously avoid touching or even looking at any of the consumer's electrics, just checking the incomming wiring for obvious signs of meter bypassing or tampering. The consumer needs to specifically ask for the service fuse to be increased in rating. Only at that point will they check the gauge of the meter tails and main switch rating of the consumer unit (distribution panel). People have service fues with 60, 80 or 100A, almost at random (aside from large houses or upgrades for EV chargers etc).
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Something doesn't add up here, makes me wonder if it's a case of missing details in the story, or somebody directly involved not understanding the code requirements correctly. When installing a new service panel 200A is the standard in American homes and I think it's the minimum allowed at least in most regions however I've never heard of anyone having to upgrade their panel if they are not adding additional circuits to the house. It's no problem to feed a 125A panel with cables capable of carrying 200A, the main breaker in the panel will limit the current available. There are indeed loads of older panels still in service, I know several people that have older homes with 100 and 125A panels. No requirement to upgrade unless you need more power.
sleemanj:
--- Quote from: jpyeron on May 16, 2023, 09:31:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: AVGresponding on May 15, 2023, 05:14:49 pm ---The charge for the 2" conduit doesn't add up, at all. $4500? For ~150 feet of conduit @$30/10ft? Surely that's $450?
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Please check my math. Pretty sure I can multiply. :o
150
x 30
====
000
450
====
4500
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You can multiply, but you needed to divide as well :)
boB:
Probably nicked the L1 or L2 hot lines. Good thing that neutral wasn't clipped.
Just jumper over the broken section. Carefully of course and turn the house power off first.
Hey, if nobody is going to help ya know ?
boB
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