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| themadhippy:
--- Quote ---Latency with digital can be a nightmare with live audio. Seen a couple of vids where they are pulling out (what's left of) their hair. --- End quote --- Only really an issue with in ear monitors and badly designed systems.For FOH the distance from kick drum to speakers stacks is often longer than any digital latency --- Quote ---Some of the newer systems are swanky. Each band member gets their own mix of the sound in the 'phones and no more foldback problems. --- End quote --- More to do with the wider availability of cheaper inear packs,8 channel of monitors is still 8 channels of monitors whether their going to wedges or ears --- Quote ---cat5 hates foot traffic. --- End quote --- so do normal multis, thats why we use stuff like tourcat and try and keep it out the way of punters |
| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on July 11, 2020, 04:33:20 pm --- --- Quote ---Latency with digital can be a nightmare with live audio. Seen a couple of vids where they are pulling out (what's left of) their hair. --- End quote --- Only really an issue with in ear monitors and badly designed systems.For FOH the distance from kick drum to speakers stacks is often longer than any digital latency --- Quote ---Some of the newer systems are swanky. Each band member gets their own mix of the sound in the 'phones and no more foldback problems. --- End quote --- More to do with the wider availability of cheaper inear packs,8 channel of monitors is still 8 channels of monitors whether their going to wedges or ears --- Quote ---cat5 hates foot traffic. --- End quote --- so do normal multis, thats why we use stuff like tourcat and try and keep it out the way of punters --- End quote --- I've been wondering when someone will solve the problem going wireless between the FOH and the mixing desk. I'm mean there are solutions but nobody (afaik) is brave enough to trust over the air in the way a lead guitarist does now. |
| themadhippy:
--- Quote ---I've been wondering when someone will solve the problem going wireless between the FOH and the mixing desk --- End quote --- when they can guarantee it will be 101% reliable,loosing the signal from the guitarist is an annoyance that can be quickly fixed by plugging in a wire,loosing every channel to and from FOH even briefly ? However its already available on the control side,most modern desks can be controlled from an app,great for setting up the system,and being able to stand beside the artist whilst setting up there monitors instead of shouting across a stage is great,however the lack of feedback from physical controls is the biggest drawback for me. Maybe if your doing sound down the pub for your mates band with your berhinger air ,controlled from a tablet,loosing control might not matter, working for named artist in front of 5000 punters who've paid much ££ to be there, would you take that risk. |
| Majorbob:
--- Quote from: Ranayna on July 11, 2020, 03:12:14 pm ---There is nothing done the easy way :p The original Marble Machine was already amazing. I can't wait to see this one finished --- End quote --- The whole project is "not the easy way"! 🤣 I've been following his build from the beginning and the difference in his engineering skills now from a couple of years ago is phenomenal. He's got a team of people now helping him with everything and he's taken on more of a project management role, loads of people have been helping for free where they can just out of their love for the project. It's a phenomenal effort. That cable goes into a custom unit and breaks out into individual channels on the other end just for his studio use, when the machine eventually gets taken on a world tour (which is the end goal) I do believe they are planning to use a digital solution. |
| Red Squirrel:
I've been following his machine build on and off, and it's pretty crazy the work he's put into it. Wireless can be a pita in A/V especially travelling. You don't know what kind of interference or other issues you can run into between buildings. The simpler the better. I can also see why you'd want to keep everything analog as much as possible up until the point it gets to the mixing board. There is less conversions or complex equipment involved that way and less failure points along the way. At my church we wanted to be able to project stuff from the AV booth but the logistics of getting a cable to where the projector was, was not easy, just because of where the sound booth was and where the projector was. We experimented with wireless HDMI and stuff but it just never really worked right. Like one day, it worked flawless, and there was something cool about being able to walk around with a laptop that is not tied to a wire, and it's actively projecting something on the big screen. But then the next day you go to use it, and for whatever reason it decides not to work. Could be a million things, but when service is starting in 5 minutes you don't have time to deal with that. We ended up going with a long throw projector that sits in the sound booth and projects to the big screen directly, and it solved our issues by being able to go wired. In something big like a concert where there could be thousands of people I can totally see wanting to keep stuff as simple as possible and avoiding wireless for major parts of the setup. Individual microphones is fine, if one mic fails you can improvise, but when your whole system fails, or something major like something being projected, then it's bad. |
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