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75% off Starlink hardware (for rural Australia)
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Ed.Kloonk:

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--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 14, 2023, 03:37:34 am ---
--- Quote from: wraper on April 13, 2023, 07:08:14 pm ---Choosing between Starlink and optic fiber is quite pointless unless you need to pay for it trough the nose or it's optic fiber only in name but not actual performance. It's fiber-like alternative for those who cannot get one. Not to say it's performance drops in areas with many users where you usually get said fiber optic. I personally use 5G with  unlimited traffic and about 400-700 Mbit down and 60-110 Mbit up. And it costs me around $12/month, though I paid about $300 for 5G modem/router.

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Unlimited 5G for $12/month? Consider yourself lucky. We have nothing like that over here. With the average cost of a fiber connection, the 5G modem would be paid for in about 1 year.

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Likewise, a decent 5G service in Australia will cost you somewhere around $60 per month for a few hundred gigabytes (some are offering up to 500GB at these prices). Usually thereafter, you don't pay for excess data, but it is shaped.

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Devil is in the detail. I bet you can't run a server.

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You could run a server on cellular, but why would you want to?

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Short answer: redundancy. 

The few times I've messed around with it, the incoming connections are blocked. No, I want an IP address.
tom66:
Due to the number of cellular devices, a good number of cell phone providers practice CGNAT, which makes it usually impossible to run a server from a 4G/5G connection as there is no valid address you can request data from, only a 'session' that you can operate in.  Not sure what the IPv6 situation is, but there are still networks that cannot handle v6, so it may not be a solution.  |O
Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: tom66 on April 14, 2023, 07:06:54 am ---Due to the number of cellular devices, a good number of cell phone providers practice CGNAT, which makes it usually impossible to run a server from a 4G/5G connection as there is no valid address you can request data from, only a 'session' that you can operate in.  Not sure what the IPv6 situation is, but there are still networks that cannot handle v6, so it may not be a solution.  |O

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And that's my argument. They can afford to throw a NAT in there but deny full access for the stupid money they claim is needed to cover costs.

Bullshit.
wraper:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 14, 2023, 03:37:34 am ---
--- Quote from: wraper on April 13, 2023, 07:08:14 pm ---Choosing between Starlink and optic fiber is quite pointless unless you need to pay for it trough the nose or it's optic fiber only in name but not actual performance. It's fiber-like alternative for those who cannot get one. Not to say it's performance drops in areas with many users where you usually get said fiber optic. I personally use 5G with  unlimited traffic and about 400-700 Mbit down and 60-110 Mbit up. And it costs me around $12/month, though I paid about $300 for 5G modem/router.

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Unlimited 5G for $12/month? Consider yourself lucky. We have nothing like that over here. With the average cost of a fiber connection, the 5G modem would be paid for in about 1 year.

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Well, I have 70% discount from normal price. And it's actually a phone SIM, not internet only.
Halcyon:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 14, 2023, 05:53:10 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 14, 2023, 05:36:26 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 14, 2023, 05:21:02 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 14, 2023, 05:08:09 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 14, 2023, 03:37:34 am ---
--- Quote from: wraper on April 13, 2023, 07:08:14 pm ---Choosing between Starlink and optic fiber is quite pointless unless you need to pay for it trough the nose or it's optic fiber only in name but not actual performance. It's fiber-like alternative for those who cannot get one. Not to say it's performance drops in areas with many users where you usually get said fiber optic. I personally use 5G with  unlimited traffic and about 400-700 Mbit down and 60-110 Mbit up. And it costs me around $12/month, though I paid about $300 for 5G modem/router.

--- End quote ---

Unlimited 5G for $12/month? Consider yourself lucky. We have nothing like that over here. With the average cost of a fiber connection, the 5G modem would be paid for in about 1 year.

--- End quote ---

Likewise, a decent 5G service in Australia will cost you somewhere around $60 per month for a few hundred gigabytes (some are offering up to 500GB at these prices). Usually thereafter, you don't pay for excess data, but it is shaped.

--- End quote ---

Devil is in the detail. I bet you can't run a server.

--- End quote ---

You could run a server on cellular, but why would you want to?

--- End quote ---

Short answer: redundancy. 

The few times I've messed around with it, the incoming connections are blocked. No, I want an IP address.

--- End quote ---

Not sure about all the other carriers, but you can get a public IPv6 address on Telstra
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