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Offline AlfBaz

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Re: "LED's" or "Lead's" boxes or -/\/\/\-
« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2016, 05:19:06 pm »
did i mention routers or rootrs as some of the UK may say  :-DD
I know a lot of Aussies who are dead against "rowter" because we take a direct "root" not a direct "rowt". I kinda agree but I still say "rowter" instead of "rooter"
 

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« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2016, 06:09:44 pm »
    SCSI = "scuzzy"

    on the other hand, IDE = "eye dee ee"

"scuzzy" is also common over here. And we pronounce PATA (IDE) and SATA often "peh ahtah" and "ess ahtah".

Paytah and Saytah.
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« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2016, 06:14:49 pm »
Paytah and Saytah.
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« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2016, 06:27:13 pm »
I know a lot of Aussies who are dead against "rowter" because we take a direct "root" not a direct "rowt". I kinda agree but I still say "rowter" instead of "rooter"

A "rooter" works out the best route to a destination. A "rowter" is a tool that cuts slots in things.
 

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« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2016, 06:56:59 pm »
I know a lot of Aussies who are dead against "rowter" because we take a direct "root" not a direct "rowt". I kinda agree but I still say "rowter" instead of "rooter"

A former Aussie work mate told me that I shouldn't pronounce a router "rooter" in Australia which might cause some embarrassment. In my industry everyone says "rowter" anyway, but when speaking German it's "rooter".
 

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« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2016, 07:14:46 pm »
What about a Roto Router?
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« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2016, 07:33:18 pm »
So the rooter is the rootenist tootinest rooter?
 

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« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2016, 02:21:35 am »
I know a lot of Aussies who are dead against "rowter" because we take a direct "root" not a direct "rowt". I kinda agree but I still say "rowter" instead of "rooter"

A "rooter" works out the best route to a destination. A "rowter" is a tool that cuts slots in things.

The packet directing router 'routes' (roots), the woodworking tool 'routs' (rowts). The E on the end changes the vowel sound.

I think that's also the general rule that people who say 'kaysh' for cache (kash) are misapplying. The OED has IPA guides for Scots/US/Aus/NZ dialect variations, but it doesn't have one for 'kaysh'.

I won't let it bother me though, Dave.  ;)

We call SATA 'sahta' 'round these parts.
 

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« Reply #58 on: November 25, 2016, 03:02:05 am »
I refer to cache as "Kay-sh". If I hear someone say "cash", I straight away think of money. I've also heard "Cash-aye".

I refer to SATA as "Serial A-T-A". Pronouncing it phonetically sounds awfully close to a Finnish swear word.
 

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« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2016, 03:23:37 am »
I refer to cache as "Kay-sh". If I hear someone say "cash", I straight away think of money. I've also heard "Cash-aye".

I refer to SATA as "Serial A-T-A". Pronouncing it phonetically sounds awfully close to a Finnish swear word.

I believe "cash-eh" is the correct way to say it, based on the origins of the word. Though, "cash" has become so used when referring to computer memory, it would be okay to pronounce the word differently depending on usage.

Your computer has a CPU cash; the enemy has a cash-aye of weapons.
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« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2016, 03:43:10 am »
I refer to cache as "Kay-sh". If I hear someone say "cash", I straight away think of money. I've also heard "Cash-aye".

I believe "cash-eh" is the correct way to say it, based on the origins of the word. Though, "cash" has become so used when referring to computer memory, it would be okay to pronounce the word differently depending on usage.

Your computer has a CPU cash; the enemy has a cash-aye of weapons.

I have always understood cache to be pronounced as "cash" (it is a French borrowing and the French pronunciation is like cash).

You can verify from various sources, for example:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/cache

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cache

https://youtu.be/_rCcV6MiQZ0
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« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2016, 03:45:36 am »
I believe "cash-eh" is the correct way to say it

Incidentally, there is a different word cachet, which is indeed pronounced as "cash-eh".
 

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« Reply #62 on: November 25, 2016, 05:09:02 am »

I used to always pronounce the letters of LED, until at one place I worked we somehow started an ongoing joke of insisting that all acronyms must be pronounced as words.  This was in the days when laptops had PCMCIA slots...   

The one that really annoys me is when people say "PCB Board."   A co-host of a certain electronics podcast (not Amp Hour) says this, as well as the non-electronics annoyances of saying "granite" instead of "granted,"  and pronouncing "especially" with a K.

I never liked rectangles for resistors, IEC symbols, or the Elektor schematic style.  All things that in my mind fix problems that never existed.


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« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2016, 05:16:22 am »
I know a lot of Aussies who are dead against "rowter" because we take a direct "root" not a direct "rowt". I kinda agree but I still say "rowter" instead of "rooter"

A "rooter" works out the best route to a destination. A "rowter" is a tool that cuts slots in things.

A "rooter" is an animal that uses its nose to find food.  Often they are the source of bacon. 

You just have to pick your poison.  There will be confusion whichever way you say it.  You may be able to select who you confuse.

 

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« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2016, 05:16:58 am »

I used to always pronounce the letters of LED, until at one place I worked we somehow started an ongoing joke of insisting that all acronyms must be pronounced as words.  This was in the days when laptops had PCMCIA slots...

But "Pik-Mik-E-Ah" is so fun to say!
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« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2016, 06:04:51 am »
(the 's were fixed. I type faster then I think.)

Nothing to fix if you're old -- I have at least one if not three writing style guides around here which  show that in formal papers the plural of an acronym used "'s" back in the day.

But with more and more things like Compact Disc becoming "CD" in formal writing, typing C.D.'s or later CD's went out of vogue with the formal writing crowd and now they appear to pluralize via capitalization only.

Of course, almost no one types R.A.D.A.R. anymore, either.

Language mutates.

But " 's " was once the accurate, formal, way to pluralize an acronym.

(Just like that Oxford comma I just snuck into that sentence. Also no longer correct per the Associated Press style guide and others, and more controversial. "Let's eat, grandma!" vs "Let's eat grandma!" :) )
 

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« Reply #66 on: November 25, 2016, 06:51:02 am »
In schematics/articles/books I like zigzag for a resistor and box for general impedance symbol. With hand-drawn symbols I've seen too many resistors that looked just like inductors drawn on blackboards or lecture notes. Especially when someone wants to quickly explain a concept and chicken-scratches a fragment of circuit. Usually at the moment of explanation it's obvious from context which one it will be, but not so obvious looking at it few months later ;)

My pet peeve are two popular symbols for current source - circle with arrow inside and two intertwining circles. First one means VOLTAGE source in circuit theory and second one is used as transformer in electrical drawings.
 

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« Reply #67 on: November 25, 2016, 06:53:46 am »
(the 's were fixed. I type faster then I think.)

They "were" fixed, so they are no longer fixed now?
Also, I think it's always a good idea to think before you type.

Depends on your use of the word 'fixed'.
If it is the past tense of the verb to 'fix', then the fixing action has been completed - and 'were' is used correctly.
If it is used as an adjective to describe "the 's" then blueskull's criticism is valid.
 

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« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2016, 06:56:52 am »
Yeah I know right :D
And what about programmers that call the char variable type a
CHar! Like CHoo CHoo train!

... and strcat... Star-cat :D
 

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Re: "LED's" or "Lead's" boxes or -/\/\/\-
« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2016, 09:05:23 am »
(the 's were fixed. I type faster then I think.)
(Just like that Oxford comma I just snuck into that sentence. Also no longer correct per the Associated Press style guide and others, and more controversial. "Let's eat, grandma!" vs "Let's eat grandma!" :) )

Capitalization, Punctuation and Grammar Matter:

"I helped my Uncle, Jack, off a horse."

vs

"I helped my uncle jack off a horse!"

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« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2016, 04:38:19 pm »
Capitalization, Punctuation and Grammar Matter:

"I helped my Uncle, Jack, off a horse."

vs

"I helped my uncle jack off a horse!"

The more you know! ~~~#

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« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2016, 05:24:00 pm »
Commas are funny things.  I was taught years ago in grade school that you should use one any time a part of a sentence can stand on its own.  Doing that you end up with a lot of commas.  Now I favor using them only when the meaning is different with and without the comma.  I was using them a lot to pluralize acronyms, but came to realize that's not a proper use of a comma, makes the acronym look possessive.  People still do that a lot though.  I sometimes do it myself inadvertently.
 

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« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2016, 07:20:41 pm »
I was using them a lot to pluralize acronyms, but came to realize that's not a proper use of a comma, makes the acronym look possessive.

You have confused me there, and possibly yourself as well.

A comma sits on the bottom of the line, like this -> ,

An apostrophe sits above the line, like this -> '

They are different punctuation symbols with different names and uses.
 
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« Reply #73 on: November 25, 2016, 09:11:09 pm »
You have confused me there, and possibly yourself as well.
A comma sits on the bottom of the line, like this -> ,
An apostrophe sits above the line, like this -> '
They are different punctuation symbols with different names and uses.
Our European (and European-descendant) friends seem to use the term "inverted comma" for the mark we call "apostrophe".
 

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« Reply #74 on: November 25, 2016, 09:13:00 pm »
SCPI = "skippy"
SciPy = "Sci Pie"
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