Author Topic: A Nutter! Causes neighbors houses to brown out! (Read 35589 times)

Flavour Flave · « **on:** May 15, 2011, 12:47:06 am »

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Some of his videos do make me laugh though! Like the seminal washing machine one.

Zero999 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2011, 08:41:29 am »

Yea right, there's no way the thin cable going into that transformer can take 100A, let alone 250A.

jasonh · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2011, 08:58:42 am »

I was thinking a bit myself, even if he had 100 amps coming in to his house, how was he getting it to the transformer? If it's the blue cable it would seem to be orders of magnitude smaller than the coil. Why did all the neighbors lights go out but the ones on his stairs didn't even flicker.

That wire would seems to be overkill though. I have three phase at home for my machinery so I guess I have at a minimum, wiring to cater for 240 amps but I dont think it is as large a gauge as that.

mobbarley · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2011, 09:11:01 am »

i hope he puts a couple too many turns on that transformer one day...

Psi · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2011, 10:00:14 am »

At one point you can see the wires on the top of it, they look thicker than regular 10A.
I think it's that super heavy duty cable used to wire up electric hobs/ovens which is rated for 40A continuous and could do 80A for a short period.

Zero999 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 15, 2011, 10:04:50 am »

Quote from: jasonh on May 15, 2011, 08:58:42 am

If it's the blue cable it would seem to be orders of magnitude smaller than the coil. Why did all the neighbors lights go out but the ones on his stairs didn't even flicker.

The lights on the stairs do go slightly dimmer but the iris on the camera compensates for it.

flolic · « **Reply #6 on:** May 15, 2011, 10:06:20 am »

Quote from: jasonh on May 15, 2011, 08:58:42 am

That wire would seems to be overkill though. I have three phase at home for my machinery so I guess I have at a minimum, wiring to cater for 240 amps but I dont think it is as large a gauge as that.

I also have three phase at home (240V), and wiring to network is with 4 x 25mm2 cable. I can pull 36kW from network without any problem (two electrical water heaters), or connect my 600A welding machine, big lathe and mill...

jasonh · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2011, 10:36:59 am »

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I also have three phase at home (240V), and wiring to network is with 4 x 25mm2 cable. I can pull 36kW from network without any problem (two electrical water heaters), or connect my 600A welding machine, big lathe and mill...

Thats more than I am going to pull! I dont know what the house draws with the water + appliances but my machines at most would only be pulling ~14KW - thats lathe ~5.5kw + 4kw mill and the rest for the cnc.

Psi · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2011, 10:50:15 am »

i think the reason for the neighbours lights flickering was due to the large current being drawn with intermittent contact.
It doesn't take much of a voltage drop to lower a lamps light output, also when the voltage drop is intermittent it makes it very noticeable.

jasonh · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2011, 11:14:24 am »

I never notice my lights flicker when I turn on stuff but I know they do in other parts of the house. My air compressor has a 10hp motor and occasionally it will start when I am somewhere in the house at night and I see some stuff dim for a bit. A dead giveaway that it has gone off.

For the occasional guest who's bed is about 7 meters from the compressor, they dont need to see the lights dim to know somethings drawing power in the middle of the night

I have had more than one story of getting a fright staying in our guest bedroom lol

Zero999 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2011, 11:50:41 am »

My house has a 100A main fuse before the meter and consumer unit containing all the MCBs. His house will also be protected by a fuse which should blow before taking out the power to the street but it wouldn't surprise me if he's done something stupid like replaced it with a nail.

armandas · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2011, 01:50:20 pm »

Quote from: Hero999 on May 15, 2011, 11:50:41 am

My house has a 100A main fuse before the meter and consumer unit containing all the MCBs. His house will also be protected by a fuse which should blow before taking out the power to the street but it wouldn't surprise me if he's done something stupid like replaced it with a nail.

You like pulling facts out of your arse, don't you? Photonicinduction is a bit nuts, but definitely not stupid. And he certainly is way more knowledgeable than most of the self-righteous dickheads who complain about his videos.

Simon · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2011, 03:22:34 pm »

yea nuts is putting it mildly, Happily he is not my neighbor. Either the lights dimming was just bullshit to get attention or he's been up to something although I'd expect that if he's taking that much power it would burn his own house wiring first. A 50 V drop in supply would be due to no small overload but then he had nothing to take any measurements.

Zero999 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2011, 03:47:41 pm »

Quote from: armandas on May 15, 2011, 01:50:20 pm

You like pulling facts out of your arse, don't you?

Lol, looks like he has a fanboy here.

Simon · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2011, 03:57:06 pm »

well hopefully someone has some info on this guy to defend him cause on the surface he looks dangerous. if he really is pulling that much power that he is affecting his neighbours then yes he has shorted his own fuse although there should be a larger fuse in the outside electric boards box that can also be blown (A backup probably for nutters like him)

Magicmushroom666 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2011, 04:27:55 pm »

Thats one big vaiac he has there too, not seen one that size before!

He has some interesting videos, just looking through now!

Simon · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2011, 06:07:07 pm »

Quote from: Magicmushroom666 on May 15, 2011, 04:27:55 pm

He has some interesting videos, just looking through now!

Yea just don't try anything of what he does at home !

Fraser · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2011, 10:52:27 pm »

The laugh would be if he burnt his house down....the equipment he plays with is industrial, which unless he has industrial cover will invalidate his policy

It's somethong to consider in the UK at least. Many insurance companies consider even an oscilloscope to be industrial or lab equipment so will not cover it's loss or events caused by it, such as fire, unless you register it's presence in your house. Me, I chose to build a lab in a garden office rather than risk issues with the main house insurance. The lab carries 'garden office' insurance with lab equipment listed.

Psi · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:40:30 am »

I'm pretty sure if an insurance company in NZ tried to get out of paying for fire damage by arguing that your oscilloscope (or any test equipment you used for hobby use) caused the fire and saying you shouldn't have been using that equipment, they would get such a bollocking from the TV show "Fair Go" that they would back right down pretty quick.

(For any non-New Zealanders.. "Fair Go" is a TV show we have that takes on complaints people have with companies doing stupid things. Nothing like a public telling off on TV to get companies to do the right thing

).

Simon · « **Reply #19 on:** May 16, 2011, 05:42:43 am »

we have to hope his neighbor is well insured too. That is not a detached house he lives in......

Fraser · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2011, 07:07:19 am »

So he doesn't live in a detached house !

In that case I wouldn't wish a fire to consume his abode as innocents could become collateral damage.

I pity his neighbours....... the neighbour from hell comes to mind

Cj1corbystarlet · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2011, 07:23:41 am »

He's actually on good terms with his neighbours,

Most of his house has been rewired to handle the loads imposed on the supply to the house, he is not some hick who has no clue, he's actually a well educated sparky.

Simon · « **Reply #22 on:** May 16, 2011, 11:52:38 am »

except that I'd not be making an iron bar molten hot over my carpet. Yes he eventually got a tile. I'm more bothered by the secondary effects of his experiments than the actual drain he is putting on his wiring

pmrlondon · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2011, 02:42:19 pm »

Quote from: Psi on May 16, 2011, 12:40:30 am

(For any non-New Zealanders.. "Fair Go" is a TV show we have that takes on complaints people have with companies doing stupid things. Nothing like a public telling off on TV to get companies to do the right thing ).

Like our "Watchdog".

Sionyn · « **Reply #24 on:** May 16, 2011, 03:13:00 pm »

it the uk version of those microwave this idiots

some his video he dose seem quite knowledgeable though
just his stupid way of talking seems quite ignorant

Flavour Flave · « **Reply #25 on:** May 16, 2011, 03:53:41 pm »

Well who sounds more ignorant, the Welsh or the Cockneys?

Not much in it methinks.

Simon · « **Reply #26 on:** May 16, 2011, 04:19:54 pm »

Quote from: Sionyn on May 16, 2011, 03:13:00 pm

it the uk version of those microwave this idiots

some his video he dose seem quite knowledgeable though
just his stupid way of talking seems quite ignorant

The microwave guys are just plain nuts and Darwin award material. This guy does some crazy things while he seems to know what he is doing roughly. Personally I care little for his attention grabbing experiments and yes he does "play with fire" sometimes

_Sin · « **Reply #27 on:** May 16, 2011, 04:30:54 pm »

I think the old saying "knows just enough to be dangerous" applies here... he's clearly knowledgeable, but I wouldn't want to be his neighbour (or be in the same room when he's farting about).

Sionyn · « **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2011, 05:27:15 pm »

looks like he learnt the hard way

Zero999 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 16, 2011, 06:04:48 pm »

Lol.

Well he at least knows how to use an oscilloscope so he can't be that stupid.

I've found AC to be more shocking and I wouldn't agree with his statement about it throwing you off, I know someone who was nearly killed because he couldn't let go of an electric drill which had developed an earth fault until his neighbour turned off the power. Don't forget that the peak voltage is higher so for 230VRMS you've got 325V and although it does cross through zero 100 or 120 times a second but the zero crossing time is negligible.

Plenty of studies have been done on the subject and it's generally agreed that the same AC current has between three to five times the shocking effect as DC.

Here are some more links:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=B0aPhJn0YcAC&pg=PA963&lpg=PA963&dq=let-go+current+shock&source=bl&ots=eELpQzCycv&sig=xMzkz9AeJWLghhYrWU7B4Sa4VS4&hl=en&ei=SejpSajnJcONjAf64LibCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=let-go%20current%20shock&f=false
http://www.pat-testing.info/electric-shock.htm
http://www.esdjournal.com/techpapr/elechazd/ehaz.htm
http://www.health24.com/medical/Condition_centres/777-792-2557-2577,15144.asp

If DC were more dangerous than the IEE regulations wouldn't say that SELV is below 120VDC or 50VAC, it'd be the other way round.

ilikepez · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2011, 04:23:34 am »

I don't really believe he is getting more then 1000 amps off of that thing. I've seen steel bus bars used to short 50,000 amps at the aluminum smelter I used to work at, and they get a hell of a lot hotter and brighter then that. He must be stepping things down pretty far though.
Sparks about the same though. He can't be using more then five or six volts.

Psi · « **Reply #31 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:38:39 am »

It could be 0.1V, doesn't really matter, 1000A is still 1000A.

I imagine the aluminum smelter put a hell of a lot more energy in.

Mechatrommer · « **Reply #32 on:** May 17, 2011, 06:35:10 am »

whats the best conductor's resistance at room temperature? 0.1 milliOhm? (0.1V / 1000A)

Sionyn · « **Reply #33 on:** May 17, 2011, 06:56:00 pm »

0.1 milliOhm sounds about right

until someone cracks room temperature super conductors

ziq8tsi · « **Reply #34 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:42:12 pm »

Quote from: Mechatrommer on May 17, 2011, 06:35:10 am

whats the best conductor's resistance at room temperature? 0.1 milliOhm? (0.1V / 1000A)

The resistivity of copper is about 17 nanoohm meters. So a 400mm² wire is about 43 microohms per meter.

Time · « **Reply #35 on:** May 17, 2011, 10:56:33 pm »

I've spent a lot of time around high voltage and a lot of time with some of the world's foremost leading experts in high voltage discharge and high power applications. From my experience I think most would concur with this guy about the AC vs. DC thing.

I have worked around many high voltage AC supplies and many DC supplies. The higher the frequency the supply the more boring it was when it came to destructively electrocuting stuff. Slower cycle, like the typical mains frequency, produced much more exciting results as opposed to equivalent peak voltages at higher frequencies in the kHz range.

DC supplies in the 10 kV and up range are just plain terrifying, if you ask me. The screaming noises he describes are very real, its called corona discharge. If you turn the lights out you will see the electrodes glowing with a thin plasma film created by the intense electric fields. High voltage DC will jump through the air or find ground much easier than AC voltage. This is mainly due to the changing field that causes electrons in the area to just wiggle with really no net motion. DC fields will pull electrons through the air continuously in one direction until it meets the electrode. If an electron can be pulled from sufficient distance and gain enough energy from the force of the e-field it can impact other particles in the air releasing additional electrons which go on to do the same. Avalanche breakdown is the fundamental concept behind all sparks and discharges. The voltage needed to do this for DC is lower than the voltages needed to achieve this for AC at normal air pressures. The breakdown voltages associated with AC fields are frequency dependent too. The higher the frequency the higher the peak voltage needed to produce arcing.

It all hurts and it all can kill you so it should be approached with respect.

His high voltage cap story is humorous. His discharge stick is what I would call a 'chicken stick'. A dielectric rod with a big fat resistor on the end (few ohms, no more than 10). He probably didn't have the resistor which is why his discharge was so violent.

ilikepez · « **Reply #36 on:** May 18, 2011, 03:30:59 am »

Quote from: Psi on May 17, 2011, 05:38:39 am

It could be 0.1V, doesn't really matter, 1000A is still 1000A.

I imagine the aluminum smelter put a hell of a lot more energy in.

yeah 189,000 amps at 1000 vdc per line. Three lines in the plant. But the voltage was only 4.2 volts nominal per pot.

Zero999 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 18, 2011, 04:41:24 pm »

Quote from: ziq8tsi on May 17, 2011, 07:42:12 pm

Quote from: Mechatrommer on May 17, 2011, 06:35:10 am
whats the best conductor's resistance at room temperature? 0.1 milliOhm? (0.1V / 1000A)
The resistivity of copper is about 17 nanoohm meters. So a 400mm² wire is about 43 microohms per meter.

Assuming that's right, at 1000A the power dissipation in the cable will be 43W per meter so it will get hot but it shouldn't burn.

benjius · « **Reply #38 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:13:30 pm »

Hey wait a minute !!!

Photonicinduction has an excellent v-blog very cool and fun to watch!

Just because he's not talking about the arduino or the 555 doesn't mean he's and idiot.
There is more to electronics than just arduinos, LED's and 555's, for some people programming FPGA's is another boring cubicle job inside an building full of sad people writing documentation and coloring excel.

What Photonicinduction is doing it's called "power electronics" that's right kiddies POWER!, this is the kind of dirty job that man and woman do every day to keep our civilization running.
I would be more than happy to have a guy like this as my neighbor, we’ll make friends Im sure!

You might not like power electronics and that is okay, the eevblog forum is certainly not the place for that kind of audience….

Simon · « **Reply #39 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:31:49 pm »

Err I think your pulling an argument out of your ass. Nobody has said they don't like him because he is not talking about the stuff we like (digital). Your argument has no relevance at all (unless I've missed some posts).

What is under discussion is his attitude to safety and his general style. We have sometimes had power electronics discussions on here too.

david77 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 18, 2011, 07:10:22 pm »

He may be a bit nuts but I don't think he's an idiot. He clearly has got something in is head otherwise he wouldn't do what he does. Yeah, I mean that the way I wrote it.
He's playing with HT and he's still alive, so he's either very very lucky or knows what he does - I think the latter is more likely.
His knack about blowing stuff up is a bit childish but there's a child in every man and some are a bit more naughty then others.
He's certainly got a very relaxed attitude to safety, well as long as he's got his experiments under control it's unlikely to cause more than a few burn holes in the carpet.
Personally I wouldn't go near anything that spits out 300kV. I get nervous working on an open running CRT telly.
On the other hand I'm totally comfortable working on 230/400V mains stuff - because I know what I'm doing there.

benjius · « **Reply #41 on:** May 18, 2011, 07:14:19 pm »

Quote from: Simon on May 18, 2011, 06:31:49 pm

Err I think your pulling an argument out of your ass. Nobody has said they don't like him because he is not talking about the stuff we like (digital). Your argument has no relevance at all (unless I've missed some posts).

What is under discussion is his attitude to safety and his general style. We have sometimes had power electronics discussions on here too.

What kind of agency do you represent? are you from idiots united ?, just because you watch mythbusters and big bang theory does not give you the right to be a safety nazi, not every blogger has to waste 10 minutes explaining about the safety behind his work.

Why don’t you watch his video about safety: https://www.youtube.com/user/Photonicinduction#p/u/44/-f6ENjdKK4w !!!!

Oh BTW, I’ve been around you know…, and you could have saved a few trees because I don’t buy this line: "Nobody has said they don't like him because he is not talking about the stuff we like" I know exactly you don’t like him because he does stuff you don’t like, who are you trying to convince "Politically Incorrect" guy...
Maybe it’s envy? “#16 - Most Viewed (This Month) - Partners - United Kingdom”

Simon · « **Reply #42 on:** May 19, 2011, 05:54:12 am »

Excuse me but are you on some sort of crusade ? I never said I watched myth busters or big bang theory (in fact I don't even have a TV license). It seems you have a problem with me ? in which case feel free to contact me directly !

I am not a "safety nazi" either (and i suggest you find out exactly what the real meaning of the word nazi is before you use it so freely) but I do kind of avoid having near molten metal above a house carpet and wooden floor boards

Simon · « **Reply #43 on:** May 19, 2011, 06:06:58 am »

Quote from: benjius on May 18, 2011, 07:14:19 pm

" I know exactly you don’t like him because he does stuff you don’t like, who are you trying to convince "Politically Incorrect" guy...
Maybe it’s envy?

Again you are talking out of your rear end, you seem to have as much hate for me as you claim I have for him (making your argument pretty stupid, as above you can contact me direct if you have a problem). I suggest you stick with the topic, and that is a friendly warning from your friendly moderator, we don't do trolling around here !

Mechatrommer · « **Reply #44 on:** May 19, 2011, 08:18:07 am »

Quote from: Simon on May 18, 2011, 06:31:49 pm

Err I think your pulling an argument out of your ass...
I suggest you stick with the topic, and that is a friendly warning from your friendly moderator..

i think these kind of words will invite troll. so relax. no body hurt.

as with the video. i can see there's argument about power supply from main. i dont think a flat 100A is needed to glow some steel from the main (primary). fellow ee welders should know this well. the key is in the heavy step down transformer. its the secondary winding thats spitting the hi amp, be it 100, 1000 or 10KA, whatever. the primary (mains) current could be just a fraction of it. thats why the guy didnt give any 2nd thought touching d secondary, because its low volt, how low i dont know.

the thing is, he seems to be an expert in hi-powered transformer. and telling the KV capacitor bad experience in his another video indicated he is alot more expert than me and many of us here about hi-voltage/power stuff. its his childish way of presentation that makes me laugh. some people prefer to take it seriously... and formally

edit: and that hum. thats the real hum, its enough a warning to tell you to stay away.

EEVblog · « **Reply #45 on:** May 19, 2011, 09:35:58 am »

People love to watch that sort of stuff.
If I blew shit up every episode I'd have a squillion views by now

His presentation style is a bit unusual and rather quirky, but I can't talk

Dave.

Simon · « **Reply #46 on:** May 19, 2011, 11:56:13 am »

well it make sense because if you want to get a peice of metal hot you want a lot of current through it, but as it has a low resistance having a lot of voltage is wasted. essentially he used the transformer as an impedance adapter.

Welding machines do work on low voltages. The spot welding machine at work outputs 1V and all of the metal contacts are quite open

Simon · « **Reply #47 on:** May 19, 2011, 11:58:10 am »

Quote from: EEVblog on May 19, 2011, 09:35:58 am

People love to watch that sort of stuff.
If I blew shit up every episode I'd have a squillion views by now
His presentation style is a bit unusual and rather quirky, but I can't talk

Dave.

destroying stuff for the sake or it gets boring after a while

benjius · « **Reply #48 on:** May 19, 2011, 02:54:20 pm »

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destroying stuff for the sake or it gets boring after a while

What the F**** is your problem with this guy??? Now, you're basically saying that the guy’s blog is boring !!! I’m sorry, where is your cool blog?!! Please show us your fantastic work !!!

It’s getting really clear that you have issues with this person; you basically flooded the thread with your biased comments about this blogger’s work.
Instead of trying to fake objectivity be transparent and clear about your real motivation for your attitude towards this blogger, I thought you here a “politically incorrect” guy…

And please… don’t pull that fascist crap on me “im the moderator…” quite frankly If you think been a moderator gives you any power over my freedom of speech then you’re a really sad person living 100 years in the past….

I’m going to expose you for harassment and bullying!!!

Simon · « **Reply #49 on:** May 19, 2011, 03:13:23 pm »

Quote from: benjius on May 19, 2011, 02:54:20 pm

I’m going to expose you for harassment and bullying!!!

Go on then !

david77 · « **Reply #50 on:** May 19, 2011, 03:43:01 pm »

Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2011, 11:58:10 am

destroying stuff for the sake or it gets boring after a while

True.

Mechatrommer · « **Reply #51 on:** May 19, 2011, 03:53:12 pm »

Quote from: benjius on May 19, 2011, 02:54:20 pm

What the F**** is your problem with this guy???

and what the F**** affair of you with this guy???
i third simon and david.

you can as well play with this kind of stuff (glowing metal) with only a 12V lead acid battery. there's no need to build such hi price hi risk hi powered stuff for nothing. unless you are a wacko hobbiest or if its your core business. and thats an imho as my current state as a "practical man", there's no need for such a wasteful device, sorry fanboys. whats "more matured" people concern here, if a kid watching those vids and try to replicate that at home without any clue whats a corona discharge is, and what its like if human get in touch with KV potential. and surely i'll got pissed off if i sit here in front of a computer and find all my lighting goes dim intermittently. thats one of the thing you should care about when playing with this stuff.

benjius · « **Reply #52 on:** May 19, 2011, 05:46:04 pm »

Quote from: Mechatrommer on May 19, 2011, 03:53:12 pm

i third simon and david.

Sad...

EDIT:

You want to know what else is sad? This:

Quote from: EEVblog on May 19, 2011, 09:35:58 am

If I blew shit up every episode I'd have a squillion views by now

Dave you’re always talking about having more time to blog and that you wanted to make a living from it… now that you have the time you just made 2 videos this month one is about a pair of speakers (fun but not thrilling) and another about a broken dmm…(not fun neither thrilling)
I agree with you, blowing stuff gets boring that’s why I stopped watching mythbusters after season 5… but hey explosions and boobs are better than nothing right ?
You want a recipe for a squillion viewes: HARD WORK!

Mechatrommer · « **Reply #53 on:** May 19, 2011, 06:44:50 pm »

Quote from: benjius on May 19, 2011, 05:46:04 pm

...but hey explosions and boobs are better than nothing right ?

explosion can get boring, but boobs are not, though

and err, you should continue watching mythbuster (while you can), because its not all about blowing stuff up!
registration is needed though to this mythbuster episode

EEVblog · « **Reply #54 on:** May 20, 2011, 12:54:49 am »

Quote from: benjius on May 19, 2011, 05:46:04 pm

Dave you’re always talking about having more time to blog and that you wanted to make a living from it… now that you have the time you just made 2 videos this month one is about a pair of speakers (fun but not thrilling) and another about a broken dmm…(not fun neither thrilling)

Ok, show us your content then...
You think I have all the time in the world now that I don't have a 9-5 day job? Think again...

Quote

You want a recipe for a squillion viewes: HARD WORK!

Not really.
Hard work doesn't automatically correlate to squillions of views. I could name countless bloggers who put in a lot more effort than me, and have orders of magnitude less viewers. And I could name countless bloggers who put in an order of magnitude less work than me and have squillion viewers. There is a lot more to it than simple hard work.

Dave.

EEVblog · « **Reply #55 on:** May 20, 2011, 12:57:18 am »

Quote from: benjius on May 19, 2011, 02:54:20 pm

Quote
destroying stuff for the sake or it gets boring after a while

What the F**** is your problem with this guy??? Now, you're basically saying that the guy’s blog is boring !!! I’m sorry, where is your cool blog?!! Please show us your fantastic work !!!

It’s getting really clear that you have issues with this person; you basically flooded the thread with your biased comments about this blogger’s work.
Instead of trying to fake objectivity be transparent and clear about your real motivation for your attitude towards this blogger, I thought you here a “politically incorrect” guy…

And please… don’t pull that fascist crap on me “im the moderator…” quite frankly If you think been a moderator gives you any power over my freedom of speech then you’re a really sad person living 100 years in the past….

I’m going to expose you for harassment and bullying!!!

Benjius, he was responding to my comment.
Don't read more into it than that.
Let it go, and please stop antagonising.

Dave.

senso · « **Reply #56 on:** May 20, 2011, 03:36:59 am »

I feel a bit sorry for the Photonic guy, he lives in what seems a trailer park, there is some people, probably family and neighbours that laugh at what he does, so he feels that as a positive stimulus so he keeps playing around, because by the way he talks he might have a very small "growth problem", so he is really just a big kid in a not so good environment so he plays with what he has, I have seem that he as an oscilloscope, a soldering iron, lots of bench supply's, and a lot of assorted electronics and power electronics stuff, he can use the oscilloscope a lot better than half my university class that cant get a simple sine wave to trigger in a oscilloscope, blessed mind that bought some new digital ones that have the magic auto-range/auto-set buttons so its just press and pray.

david77 · « **Reply #57 on:** May 20, 2011, 06:40:16 am »

I don't know where you got the idea with the trailer park from. One would assume you haven't watched any of his videos because if you did you might have noticed that he does his trickery mostly in an attic room. Trailers usually don't have those, right?

Don't let his funny accent lead you to the conclusion that he's got some "brain issues", listen to WHAT he says and you might notice that he seems to know what he's doing there. Oh, and I think in half his vids he's half pissed so that might explain the way he talks

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Simon · « **Reply #58 on:** May 20, 2011, 06:59:49 am »

He does seem to know what he is doing but is a bit of an exhibitionist in the bargain. Yes he has an unusual speaking manner, could well be due to some alcohol intake. I know he has admitted to being pissed on at least one video

Cj1corbystarlet · « **Reply #59 on:** May 20, 2011, 09:31:38 am »

I suggest you guy's watch all his video's, you will then understand how smart he is, and how qualified he is,

Then you will also understand why he has built so many large power supplies ( the big brown one, with all the buttons ), it is for quite a interesting bigger picture project.

Hey i do this kinda stuff also, its fun ! .......

Cj1corbystarlet · « **Reply #60 on:** May 20, 2011, 10:07:18 am »

Not everybody can be serious 24 seven, sometimes people like to let their hair down and do fun stuff,,
Washing machine destruction can be fun to watch, You gotta admit seeing a coconut blow apart is pretty cool !, what i dont like is seeing videos of 14 year old kids modifying Mot's and making arc welders on youtube with no understanding of what is going on, and how lethal they can be.

david77 · « **Reply #61 on:** May 20, 2011, 11:03:27 am »

The washing machine video was the first I saw and I still find it incredibly funny to see that thing take itself to pieces

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Zero999 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 20, 2011, 04:08:22 pm »

Quote from: benjius on May 18, 2011, 07:14:19 pm

Why don’t you watch his video about safety: https://www.youtube.com/user/Photonicinduction#p/u/44/-f6ENjdKK4w !!!!

Lol, that's probably one of the funniest of his videos.

I do agree with other people here that he doesn't mention the safety risks of his experiments. All people here want is a simple warning, not a long drawn out explanation.

Simon · « **Reply #63 on:** May 20, 2011, 07:22:47 pm »

yes that is funny.

Fraser · « **Reply #64 on:** May 21, 2011, 12:00:54 pm »

Well this guy certainly gets plenty of forum attention, though I would consider him infamous rather than famous

As to ever taking any advice from this 'expert' in electricity....well, I would consider that akin to taking advice from a WWII Kamakazi pilot on safe landing procedures

(no offence intended to any Japanese readers)

I really don't care what this guy does or whether he terminates his life during one of his experiments.... I just consider it very sad evidence of what the amazing internet has become in some areas....sad trash... but hey, I don't have to watch it and have made that choice. The world is filled with people who like to live dangerously and this guy seems to get his kicks from these experiments and being an exhibitionist. So long as no one actually thinks his experiments are 'clever' and tries to copy him, no real harm done.

Simon · « **Reply #65 on:** May 21, 2011, 12:03:44 pm »

Well I think thankfully it would take some cash and knowledge to achieve what he does. He probably knows more than he lets on but that's the iffy bit. You just never know what he'll be at next

gobblegobble · « **Reply #66 on:** May 23, 2011, 12:28:53 am »

Quote from: Mechatrommer on May 19, 2011, 06:44:50 pm

and err, you should continue watching mythbuster (while you can), because its not all about blowing stuff up!
[embedded youtube video]registration is needed though to this mythbuster episode

Oh lord! I couldn't stop laughing for good 5 minutes and it's 3 am in here! Hope I didn't wake up all the neighbours...

Btw, you don't need to register if you watch the video as embedded and stay away from youtube. Talking about some really effective age filtering.

gobblegobble · « **Reply #67 on:** May 24, 2011, 02:46:32 am »

Quote from: Mechatrommer on May 23, 2011, 06:57:12 am

save the cache! if you want to polish your skill on that i dont understand why you laugh its so funny. for me its hot!

There is no need to save the short youtube clip as you can get the whole episode of the series along with it if you so wish.
As for the funny, I suppose it's for the same reason she was laughing at it.

Guess it's down to personal preference for you to find women posterior hot or not.

Sionyn · « **Reply #68 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:04:35 am »

well he's broke his scope and he is pissed off

'because he ain't havin it' as he says

Simon · « **Reply #69 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:39:36 am »

Quote from: gobblegobble on May 24, 2011, 02:46:32 am

Guess it's down to personal preference for you to find women posterior hot or not.

turn her 180 degrees and you might get my attention

Ed.Kloonk · « **Reply #70 on:** May 24, 2011, 02:05:27 pm »

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I won't mention what make or manufacturer those were...

Fuckwit.

You just lost me, you fucking shill.

Simon · « **Reply #71 on:** May 24, 2011, 04:44:40 pm »

so he burnt out some inverters trying to get them to do something they were not meant to do. Got annoyed because his mistreatment caused due damage to part of his oscilloscope and so wrecked everything. maybe he don't know too much about electronics.

ziq8tsi · « **Reply #72 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:05:32 pm »

Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on May 24, 2011, 02:05:27 pm

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I won't mention what make or manufacturer those were...
Fuckwit.
You just lost me, you fucking shill.

Quote from: Simon on May 24, 2011, 04:44:40 pm

so he burnt out some inverters trying to get them to do something they were not meant to do. Got annoyed because his mistreatment caused due damage to part of his oscilloscope and so wrecked everything. maybe he don't know too much about electronics.

If you want others to be able to understand and consider your posts then it would be best to include some context or followable reference to the things you are reacting to.

Otherwise, just put the rants in your private diaries.

Simon · « **Reply #73 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:17:31 pm »

Quote from: ziq8tsi on May 24, 2011, 05:05:32 pm

Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on May 24, 2011, 02:05:27 pm
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I won't mention what make or manufacturer those were...
Fuckwit.
You just lost me, you fucking shill.

Quote from: Simon on May 24, 2011, 04:44:40 pm
so he burnt out some inverters trying to get them to do something they were not meant to do. Got annoyed because his mistreatment caused due damage to part of his oscilloscope and so wrecked everything. maybe he don't know too much about electronics.

If you want others to be able to understand and consider your posts then it would be best to include some context or followable reference to the things you are reacting to.

Otherwise, just put the rants in your private diaries.

Well I was referring to the video posted above, but then I'm not sure which one of "us" YOUR referring to.

Zero999 · « **Reply #74 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:53:17 pm »

I'm disappointed he didn't blow up some of those large capacitors. This one of the shitist of his videos.

Ferroto · « **Reply #75 on:** May 24, 2011, 07:20:14 pm »

Quote from: Simon on May 24, 2011, 04:44:40 pm

maybe he don't know too much about electronics.

Gee what gave you that idea

Simon · « **Reply #76 on:** May 24, 2011, 08:48:32 pm »

Quote from: Ferroto on May 24, 2011, 07:20:14 pm

Quote from: Simon on May 24, 2011, 04:44:40 pm
maybe he don't know too much about electronics.
Gee what gave you that idea

well he seems to mainly play with power stuff, coils, transformers and such rather than actual circuitry. This is the one time I've seen him play with actual electronics (low power stuff, ICs) and if i understood correctly he tried to by pass the control circuitry of the inverter which caused issues and then he gets annoyed with the inverter. when it blows the scope he was possibly misusing

Ferroto · « **Reply #77 on:** May 24, 2011, 10:38:42 pm »

Quote from: Simon on May 24, 2011, 08:48:32 pm

well he seems to mainly play with power stuff, coils, transformers and such rather than actual circuitry. This is the one time I've seen him play with actual electronics (low power stuff, ICs) and if i understood correctly he tried to by pass the control circuitry of the inverter which caused issues and then he gets annoyed with the inverter. when it blows the scope he was possibly misusing

Yea I see a Darwin award in his near future.

Sionyn · « **Reply #78 on:** May 28, 2011, 01:33:42 pm »

his quarterly electric bill came he used 10MW 0.o

Flavour Flave · « **Reply #79 on:** May 28, 2011, 10:41:17 pm »

Look if you are going to do high voltage experiments and you go ahead without knowing the safety issues and you die. I say good riddance, one less moron in this world.

[youtube]gDW_Hj2K0wo[/youtube]

Lawsen · « **Reply #80 on:** May 28, 2011, 11:27:56 pm »

This U.K. transformer engineer or technician hobbyist has gone insane. I am not that brave as he is. 14 mils, wow, heavy gauge cable carrying high voltages. I am too afraid, call me a coward. He made his own iron, steel core transformer. I like his work shop, spacious, and clean, no clutter. There is a nice analog like oscilloscope in the back ground. I wished my work shop was that spacious. I have multiple interests from backyard astronomy, geology, microscopes, and oscilloscopes and I am crammed into my childhood era house, not able to afford to move out. I do not have much space. I have three hand drafting machines by Mutoh and Vemco with the X,Y track.

I do like to see the arcs in this video, thanks. There is the smell of ozone, O3 gases?

Here is an electrical transformer fire in a neighborhood in Sunnyvale, California, U.S.A.

My neighborhood in Stockton, California U.S.A. have neighbors that lost refrigerator, coffee maker, personal computers, and microwave oven when an automobile crashed into a power pole and the hot touches neutral and the transformer switch yard tried to restored electricity. My mother's outlet in the dinning room have arcs and sparks coming out and exploding the surge filter and burn marks in the floor board on the floor. We lost an exercise thread mill motor controller board, four surge filters, and burn marks on the floor board. I repaired or replaced them. This is a third party caused electrical accident by a motorists that crashed into a power pole along West Lane at high speeds, Stockton, California, U.S.A.

Lawsen

Flavour Flave · « **Reply #81 on:** May 29, 2011, 12:26:34 am »

Thats more like it keep it up!
that never happens in England

[youtube]Rfd0_7BcU-0[/youtube]

The guy who crashed into the pole had just watched Photonicinduction's youtube channel and was so outraged, he lost his concentration, what a tragedy.

Flavour Flave · « **Reply #82 on:** May 29, 2011, 03:12:47 am »

I like a good disaster as well yeah.

[youtube]tceH2RS6V5I[/youtube]

Lawsen · « **Reply #83 on:** May 29, 2011, 05:02:23 am »

My Pacific Gas and Electric will not pay for the four surge MOV, metal oxide varistor lost from the fire and the burned thread mill motor controller. The accident was caused by the motorist that crashed into the electrical pole along West Lane, Stockton, California, U.S.A. I repaired two surge filters and thrown the completely burned ones away and repaired the half wave bridge rectifier in the exercise thread mill machine.

I wished, I was a turtle, a pelagic sea turtle than to experienced a great recession and electrical lost. Sea turtles could be drowned by; by catch from the fishing industry. By catch is a term for fishing industry catch everything in the seas and drowned or injured all the sea animals and take only what they sell or need and dump all the injured or dead sea creatures back into the ocean, terrible.

Lawsen

Zero999 · « **Reply #84 on:** May 29, 2011, 10:17:47 am »

Quote from: Lawsen on May 29, 2011, 05:02:23 am

My Pacific Gas and Electric will not pay for the four surge MOV, metal oxide varistor lost from the fire and the burned thread mill motor controller. The accident was caused by the motorist that crashed into the electrical pole along West Lane, Stockton, California, U.S.A. I repaired two surge filters and thrown the completely burned ones away and repaired the half wave bridge rectifier in the exercise thread mill machine.

The motorist's insurance company should pay.

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I wished, I was a turtle, a pelagic sea turtle than to experienced a great recession and electrical lost. Sea turtles could be drowned by; by catch from the fishing industry. By catch is a term for fishing industry catch everything in the seas and drowned or injured all the sea animals and take only what they sell or need and dump all the injured or dead sea creatures back into the ocean, terrible

It's worse in the EU where fishermen have quotas limiting how much of certain species they're allowed to keep. If they catch more than they're allowed to, they have to throw it back but by that time, most of the fish are dead.

Throwing back fist should be illegal, if there's a risk they could exceed their quota during the next trawl, they either shouldn't do it or not use the whole net so it's not possible for them to exceed their quota.

Simon · « **Reply #85 on:** May 29, 2011, 01:21:47 pm »

well you can always count on the EU to make laws that are impractical and cause more waste

ziq8tsi · « **Reply #86 on:** May 29, 2011, 04:16:02 pm »

Quote from: Hero999 on May 29, 2011, 10:17:47 am

The motorist's insurance company should pay.

Ultimately, perhaps. But the electricity supplier is directly responsible for the overvoltage or whatever caused the alleged damage. The individual electricity users should not be expected to guess whether or not the supplier's protection hardware was at fault. And they certainly should not be required to take action against a third party, even if he was at fault.

alm · « **Reply #87 on:** May 29, 2011, 04:31:54 pm »

Quote from: Simon on May 29, 2011, 01:21:47 pm

well you can always count on the EU to make laws that are impractical and cause more waste

The national governments can't handle this all on their own, they need some help creating useless laws

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Simon · « **Reply #88 on:** May 29, 2011, 04:51:52 pm »

Quote from: alm on May 29, 2011, 04:31:54 pm

Quote from: Simon on May 29, 2011, 01:21:47 pm
well you can always count on the EU to make laws that are impractical and cause more waste
The national governments can't handle this all on their own, they need some help creating useless laws .

well they do a great job on their own. getting the EU involved just takes some of that enormous stress off of then and leaves them more time to rank up expenses claims

Zero999 · « **Reply #89 on:** May 29, 2011, 07:54:12 pm »

alm is right here, the UK government can't regulate the whole sea around the EU. The seas around our shores borders many countries and international co-operation is required to control them.

Simon · « **Reply #90 on:** May 29, 2011, 07:58:34 pm »

Quote from: Hero999 on May 29, 2011, 07:54:12 pm

The seas around our shores borders many countries and international co-operation is required to control them.

You mean we all band together and do what the french want us to

Yes well unfortunately the people that organize one country are so far up they can hardly make helpful laws, never mind when those above these ty and figure out what to do

Flavour Flave · « **Reply #91 on:** May 29, 2011, 10:10:02 pm »

Pat pretty much sums it up about the EU.

[youtube]R6M8an_XKL8[/youtube]

Sionyn · « **Reply #92 on:** May 29, 2011, 10:27:32 pm »

love pat's stuff

Simon · « **Reply #93 on:** May 30, 2011, 08:02:06 am »

brilliant, when is he running for the post as UK prime minister ?

blimy he goes steady for 6 minutes plus flat with no pause - Dave, you have a mentor

Ed.Kloonk · « **Reply #94 on:** May 30, 2011, 02:07:26 pm »

I'd like to know if he uses a teleprompter. He strikes me as the kind of bloke you wouldn't want to get into a discussion with at the pub..

Flavour Flave · « **Reply #95 on:** May 30, 2011, 02:33:15 pm »

Here's hi latest.

[youtube]eIesXORjBps[/youtube]

Simon · « **Reply #96 on:** May 30, 2011, 02:38:19 pm »

Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on May 30, 2011, 02:07:26 pm

I'd like to know if he uses a teleprompter. He strikes me as the kind of bloke you wouldn't want to get into a discussion with at the pub..

well I'd say is prepares well for each video and obviously has the capacity to go at it non stop. Maybe he is reading out his own script which is probably how I'd do it. He is brilliant, very to the point and you can't fault his arguments

Thermal Runaway · « **Reply #97 on:** May 30, 2011, 02:41:13 pm »

Quote from: david77 on May 18, 2011, 07:10:22 pm

I get nervous working on an open running CRT telly.

I used to do that for a living - that's how I started out in the Electronics trade. I had a couple of HV shocks off CRTs in my time, and it's a little bit like having a wasp sting - it doesn't really hurt that much but once you've been had you don't want to go near it again for the rest of the day! It's like it psychologically damages you.

Quote from: david77

On the other hand I'm totally comfortable working on 230/400V mains stuff - because I know what I'm doing there.

I have to be honest, I've never been totally comfortable working on mains stuff. Even though I would consider myself very knowledgeable and I know what not to touch, I just never feel comfortable when I'm working on live equipment. When I'm probing something I always fear that the probe's going to slip and I'll short across some live terminals, or that my hand will brush against a live heatsink or something like that.

We used to have a guy working with us who relished this kind of thing. He worked on the bench behind me, and he'd watch me fault-finding with one of those air-filled packing balloons in his hand. He'd wait until I was just about to touch something live with my probe and BANG - he'd pop the damned packaging. For him it would be the most hilarious thing he'd ever seen, and he never tired of it. I can see the humour in it, but when you're the one on the receiving end it wears thin real quick!

Maybe that's why I have a fear of mains stuff even to this day. I'll stick to my low voltage (<40V) D.C. stuff thank you very much

Brian H.

Sionyn · « **Reply #98 on:** May 30, 2011, 06:54:27 pm »

i don't he's done stand up before so i suppose he dose some sort prep

http://www.patcondell.net/

Arthur · « **Reply #99 on:** May 31, 2011, 12:01:45 pm »

Photonicinduction is not a bad guy. He comes off as childish and impulsive, but it is clear that he does know what he is doing. The theory is obviously in his head, he just seems afraid to let it out on camera. Maybe he thinks (rightly or wrongly) that no one will watch a geeky video full of equations and safety warnings. Maybe he's simply reluctant to explain things. That doesn't mean he is ignorant himself, although he is definitely pandering to the ignorant "Top Gear watching" masses a bit.

I don't see why an intelligent person should feel precluded from watching. There seems to be an air of condescension towards what he does from some quarters. It is unclear exactly what their beef with this guy is. Maybe they feel that it is irresponsible of him to appear so blasé about playing with massive transformers. Maybe they feel that some of his videos are a childish waste of time. I wouldn't disagree entirely, but I don't see how that gives you licence to look down on him as some kind of slack dumbass. He clearly has a job so he most be doing constructive work for somebody.

Zero999 · « **Reply #100 on:** May 31, 2011, 01:54:23 pm »

Quote from: Arthur on May 31, 2011, 12:01:45 pm

Photonicinduction is not a bad guy. He comes off as childish and impulsive

True.

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The theory is obviously in his head, he just seems afraid to let it out on camera. Maybe he thinks (rightly or wrongly) that no one will watch a geeky video full of equations and safety warnings. Maybe he's simply reluctant to explain things. That doesn't mean he is ignorant himself, although he is definitely pandering to the ignorant "Top Gear watching" masses a bit.

Exactly.

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Maybe they feel that it is irresponsible of him to appear so blasé about playing with massive transformers.

Yes.

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Maybe they feel that some of his videos are a childish waste of time.

Agreed.

I also don't like some of the bullshit he talks. He says he quarterly bill came to 10MW, which has to be bollocks. Presumably he means 10MWh, even if that were spread over 600 hours the average power consumption would be 16²/₃kW and the current would be 72.46A which would melt the cabling and make his house too hot to live in, unless he had the windows open continuously in the middle of winter.

Mechatrommer · « **Reply #101 on:** May 31, 2011, 02:09:04 pm »

Quote from: Arthur on May 31, 2011, 12:01:45 pm

but it is clear that he does know what he is doing. The theory is obviously in his head, he just seems afraid to let it out on camera. Maybe he thinks (rightly or wrongly) that no one will watch a geeky video full of equations and safety warnings. Maybe he's simply reluctant to explain things.

like Dave.


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