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emece67:
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free_electron:

--- Quote from: Gyro on May 23, 2022, 06:24:42 pm ---No it absolutely isn't bullshittery. I suffer from Coeliac disease, it isn't a gluten alergy, it is an autoimune condition. Exposure to gluten causes a T-Cell immune reaction which strips the vilii off the internal surface of the gut (causing so called smooth gut'), drastically reducing its

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Will you read what i wrote please ?

INGREDIENTS : POTATO , SALT , SAFFLOWER OIL
Where are the gluten ?

I don't deny there are people with severe gluten allergies , and am fully in favor of making sure they are aware what could cause them harm and make it easier for them to pick the right foods.
But this bold :"gluten free"  (it's larger than the other text on the front of the packaging!) on something that cannot contain gluten is just ... why ? You made allusions to "self diagnosed" people after reading certain magazines. That's what that is for. They don't care about the people who really have a health problem. They use (abuse) it to fetch the gullible ones ( which is a much larger target group than the group that really has a medical condition)

You buy a bottle of cranberry juice.
Label says 100% juice, but 80% is apple juice. Well, it said juice ... it should say 100% Cranberry juice (and there are such products , but most of them are 100%juice category)

And there's those fruit drink pouches for kids ( does not contain actual juice)

More technical now
Deoxit. There's D5 and D100.
a 0.85 oz can of deoxit D5 is 16$  : https://www.amazon.com/DeoxIT-D5-Spray-percent-S-CD5S-2/dp/B098831JTS/ref=sr_1_10?crid=FKMVMFIKT53X&keywords=deoxit+d5&qid=1653332059&sprefix=deoxit+d5%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-10
a 2 oz can of deoxit D100 is 24$ : https://www.amazon.com/CAIG-DeoxIT-D100S-2-Spray-oz/dp/B01IYPTZ3K/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1KP7UZEZKWEDO&keywords=deoxit+d100&qid=1653332193&sprefix=deoxit+d100%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-9

So i get more than double the product for only 50% more cost... but ... d5 contains 5% actual product in a solvent. D100 is pure . So i get 40 times more actual product (20 times more concentrate times volume, actually closer to 50 times more)
This is just ridiculous.

We live in a world where everything has to be politically correct but at the same time is so full of loopholes it is all noise. you can't trust anything.
At the same time we are being bombarded with superfluous information and statements that are technically correct, but have no meaning.
Gyro:

--- Quote from: free_electron on May 23, 2022, 07:22:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: Gyro on May 23, 2022, 06:24:42 pm ---No it absolutely isn't bullshittery. I suffer from Coeliac disease, it isn't a gluten alergy, it is an autoimune condition. Exposure to gluten causes a T-Cell immune reaction which strips the vilii off the internal surface of the gut (causing so called smooth gut'), drastically reducing its

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Will you read what i wrote please ?

INGREDIENTS : POTATO , SALT , SAFFLOWER OIL
Where are the gluten ?

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As emece67 just pointed out, the oil that they are fried in (I was once told in a chip shop that "the heat kills it" when I asked if their chips were fried in the same oil as they used for battered fish  ::)). Packaging and processing equipment etc. - Did you not read what I wrote?

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--- Quote ---I don't deny there are people with severe gluten allergies , and am fully in favor of making sure they are aware what could cause them harm and make it easier for them to pick the right foods.
But this bold :"gluten free"  (it's larger than the other text on the front of the packaging!)...
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Have you any idea how long it takes to read through the ingredients of every processed food product you buy (and then search for the 'May contain traces... disclaimer)?
CJay:

--- Quote from: free_electron on May 23, 2022, 05:30:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: CJay on May 23, 2022, 05:09:43 pm ---It's not bullshittery, a coeliac friend really opened my eyes to foods that *shouldn't* contain gluten but often do without listing on the ingredients (grated cheese for instance)

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ingredients : potato , safflower oil, salt . Tell me , what parts contain gluten ?

A lot of this stuff is hype. look our product is this and that. Many people latch on to the buzzword du jour...

This bag of lettuce is lactose free , gluten free , vegan / vegetarian / ovo-pescatarian and omnivore approved. Not for fruitarians.

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Did you perhaps misunderstand this bit of my post which you quoted? 

"but often do without listing on the ingredients".

Yes, it's often buzzword wankery and yes, it's often 'wellness' bullshit from 'lifestyle gurus' but it's still incredibly useful for people who suffer with genuine, medically diagnosed allergies and intolerances.

I fail to understand why having more information that may help people upsets you so much?
CJay:

--- Quote from: nightfire on May 23, 2022, 06:33:58 pm ---Also maybe of interest: At least in germany/EU law, some stuff is allowed not to be declared, when it is below a certain threshold and deemed a helper ingredient- like anti-clogging additives for flour, for example...
Means: Not everyone really reads (and understands) what the ingredient list means...

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Yup, hash browns, shouldn't contain any gluten at all but a certain well known UK brand uses flour to make them an attractive golden brown colour when fried, and guess what, it's not listed in the ingredients because it's below some defined percentage of the total, an ex of mine found out the hard way, she suffered for that breakfast.

Which harks back to my point, having more information about food ingredients and/or a bold declaration of 'xxxxxxxx free' is damned useful.
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