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Offline GKTopic starter

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Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« on: October 02, 2012, 01:12:43 am »
http://n4trb.com/AmateurRadio/SemiconductorHistory/GE_Tunnel_Diodes.pdf


The revolutionary new semiconductor device that, well, wasn’t.
Does anyone know of a contemporary tunnel diode? Just curious and I wouldn’t mind experimenting with a few; but that might have to be with some ancient “NOS” acquired through Ebay.
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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2012, 01:15:54 am »
Every time I walk into my shop I have to go through a series of spiritual rituals to make sure one of these doesn't die in my scope. Unobtanium!
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2012, 01:35:17 am »
Ha! According to that GE article they are nuclear bomb proof! Is that a sampling oscilloscope?
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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2012, 02:06:35 am »
I like the reference in the document to 'kilomegacycle'  :)
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2012, 02:35:17 am »
That's spooky -- I was just scanning the web for tunnel diodes the other day.

I've got a 10GHz doppler radar module here that uses a tunnel diode and was wondering what to do if I blow it.

Of course we've got better ways of creating microwave frequencies these days so for that application, the tunnel diode is redundant.
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2012, 03:02:58 am »
I never heard of it.    So I guess I wasn't an adult way back then.   Whenever that was.       There were things in glass vacuum tubes that were like diodes and amplifiers way back before my time.   I never learned about them either.     They're obsolete.   But some hams still use them.     I am a ham.   So I would use one if I had one that stil worked.
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2012, 03:28:45 am »
The only time I saw a tunnel diode from up close was a few years ago in a lab - the assignment was to measure (and later plot) the IV curve. If I had one I would not know what to do with it - after all, it seems to me that it would be easier to build a transmitter with vacuum tubes than the tunnel diode (since IIRC all tunnel diodes are low power, so I would still have to use tubes to amplify the power). However, since I am incapable ow inding a coil (so it has specified parameters), I won't be building any transmitters any time soon.
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2012, 04:33:44 am »
Back in the day, tunnel diodes were the easiest way to create a low-power microwave source.

Many of the low-power X-band doppler radars (as used in home-security systems and as automatic door-openers back in the 1970s/80s) were tunnel diode based.

Just throw a tunnel diode in a resonant cavity, bias it appropriately and bingo -- instant microwave-source.

I think the unit I have is about 5-8mW at 10.5GHz.
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2012, 05:18:43 am »
Just throw a tunnel diode in a resonant cavity, bias it appropriately and bingo -- instant microwave-source.
Gunn diodes do the job as well and are much less unobtainium.
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2012, 05:49:19 am »
Tunnel diodes were used extensively at one time,but their performance was overtaken by more conventional devices.

The only thing I remember using which used them was a TU-5 Pulser,which,when driven by the reasonably slow calibration signal,produced a fast rise time pulse allowing you to test an oscilloscope's transient response.
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2012, 07:22:18 am »
In the late 60's there was a record held by a radio amateur for long distance transmission with low power, from Newzealand to America with less than a quarter watt using a tunnel diode transmitter. 
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2012, 09:38:15 am »
I remember buying one as a teenager. It looked like a very interesting device to build a small transmitter.
Unfortunately it was expensive (for me) and I never got it working, probably killed it  :(
That was my first and last tunnel diode experiment. I wonder if it is still in one of the weird stuff drawers...
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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2012, 11:18:24 am »
I remember buying one as a teenager. It looked like a very interesting device to build a small transmitter.

I was around 13-15 years old in the early 90's and I remember finding the schematics to FM transmitters in one of those 1001 "Electronics circuits"-type books at the public reference library. It had no exotic (GE,HF) transistors, just resistors and capacitors to go with the TD. It seemed so super simple that I walked around the shops looking for one in vain.
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 12:18:51 pm »
I still use it on my venerable Tek 284 pulse generator reference.  70ps or less and 1 GHz reference signals made in the 1960s.



There is still quite a bunch of overstock easily found on eBay.  IIRC Russia still makes them new.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/?_nkw=tunnel%20diodes&clk_rvr_id=393658061107

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 12:20:40 pm »
Just came across this on the net after a Google search on tunnel diodes.

http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/els/ntype-nr-el.htm
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 02:28:38 pm »
I had one of these , it was in a small / cheap GDO - Grid Dip Oscillator , from Heathkit .
I quickly moved on to several other GDOs that performed much better , but were much bigger .

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/heath_tunnel_dipper_hm_10_a_hm1.html
 
 

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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2012, 02:35:32 pm »
I had one of these , it was in a small / cheap GDO - Grid Dip Oscillator , from Heathkit .

That would make it a TDO then?  ;)
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Re: Who remembers the tunnel diode?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2012, 06:27:11 am »
driven by the reasonably slow calibration signal,produced a fast rise time pulse allowing you to test an oscilloscope's transient response.


Yes, that is what I would like to do. Looks like I have plenty NOS to choose from on ebay.  :)
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