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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2013, 12:16:10 pm »
They could always go back to Harrison.
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2013, 12:19:58 pm »
When in high school I did home deliveries in the evenings for a take away called "Very Good Chinese Food", so I vote for "Very Good Electronics Equipment". 
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #77 on: September 20, 2013, 12:36:54 pm »
Maybe Applent can buy them
It contains the new buzzword "App" and they already have a rich portfolio of Agilent look-a-like equipment  :-DD
 

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2013, 12:42:05 pm »
What other anagrams of genital would work?

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2013, 01:02:44 pm »
What other anagrams of genital would work?
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies
« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2013, 02:54:39 pm »
Agilent is only interested in selling devices when they can make a fortune of each one. With Chinese companies like Rigol selling T&M equipment for much smaller profit margins than what Agilent is used to, they are giving up on the market. Advanced science equipment like biotech and medical devices still can sell for a fortune per unit simply because hobbyist haven't gotten in and demanded competitive pricing.

None of the Chinese manufacturers even come close to Agilent at anything beyond the advanced hobbyist level.  Rigol has nothing in the 50GHz+ network analyzer range, and won't for a while (if ever).  At my research lab, I use RF cables that cost $2000 a piece.  Hint: they're not made in China.  There is still big money here.
All the more reason for the Chinese to buy themselves into that market. The Chinese have lots of cash lying around so for them its just a matter of deciding which cherry to pick.
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies
« Reply #81 on: September 20, 2013, 02:57:14 pm »
All the more reason for the Chinese to buy themselves into that market. The Chinese have lots of cash lying around so for them its just a matter of deciding which cherry to pick.

That's the thing, they never seem to bother with the high hanging fruit.
 

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #82 on: September 20, 2013, 03:25:08 pm »
This is fascinating and I write this (virtually) on the eve of joining the T&M industry myself.

In the published statement from Agilent there were two interesting lines about the split:

LDA: "FY13 estimated revenues are $3.9 billion. It is expected that the new Agilent will continue to pay a dividend at least at the present yield."

EM: "FY13 estimated revenues are $2.9 billion. The EM company initially is not expected to pay a dividend."

My reading is that T&M does not make a profit and is going to have to stand very much on it's own two feet from now on. My guess is that depending on management flavour & skill, they'll either emerge from this like Apple did with the iPod - or they'll suffer death by a thousand cuts and end up as the name badge on #*£%$ gear.

I personally hope for the former and Aspire to owning more of their gear.  But sadly I expect the later (although all those nice little spin off companies will be interesting).

I also never understood why they created Agilent in the first place - If GE can put their name on loco's, jet engines, light bulbs, finance AND life sciences, why couldn't HP.?



 

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #83 on: September 20, 2013, 04:04:55 pm »
Never underestimate HP's propensity to screw things up. Case in point: the acquisition and eventual write-off of Palm.
 

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #84 on: September 21, 2013, 12:18:39 am »
Shouldn't this thread be in the Test Equipment forum?

I never liked HP scopes back in the 80's but there isn't another scope I would spend my money on these days.  I agree, Meg should have a sit down with the T&M group and see what they could come up with.  HP Labs is working on some very cool things right now and it would seem that Agilent T&M labs is coming up with some cool tech also.  Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.  T&M gets their name back and HP gets to play in the T&M arena again.  Who knows, it might workout well!

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2013, 01:20:20 am »
If you look at the Agilent homepage, next to the electronic test & measurement there is a notice for "52 new power supplies".

I wonder what the engineering cost is on spinning 52 separate products? Not just engineering, but safety testing, EMI compliance, manuals, paperwork, BOMs for all of them...

What can one supply do that the other cannot?  The main differentiators appears to be power output, voltage, etc., fair enough, but couldn't they make a modular system with many individual power supply modules in parallel, rather than many different products? Sort of like the Tek plugin system on older scopes.

It seems a little over-eager. Maybe one reason they're losing money there. But I'm not an expert, perhaps this is the most economical way to do it.
 

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2013, 02:04:27 am »
If you look at the Agilent homepage, next to the electronic test & measurement there is a notice for "52 new power supplies".

I wonder what the engineering cost is on spinning 52 separate products? Not just engineering, but safety testing, EMI compliance, manuals, paperwork, BOMs for all of them...
If the basic design is the same then safety testing etc is a matter of testing one product and putting stickers on the rest. In the past I have designed a piece of hardware which in the end got used as 10 different products. It just depended on the firmware.
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2013, 04:32:48 am »
It seems a little over-eager. Maybe one reason they're losing money there. But I'm not an expert, perhaps this is the most economical way to do it.

HP/Agilent have always offered a plethora of power supply models, for many decades now, so there must be an industry need for it. They'd have theproduction down pat so it doesn't cost them much.
 

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2013, 05:32:12 am »
eTekulent.

The company that once was great, descending further into the morals-mincer of corporate person-hood, surrounded by the poison sea of a socialist, fiat-currency, structurally untenable, corrupt and imploding economy.
Yep, I'm a bit pessimistic about this.

Where can I go to put flowers on the grave of the original HP?
I miss them so much.
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #89 on: September 21, 2013, 06:58:41 am »
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #90 on: September 21, 2013, 04:00:33 pm »


That is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time  :-DD ;)
 

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #92 on: September 21, 2013, 04:19:35 pm »
The new name is obvious-----T & M !!

Or they could go with EME!

Or,

OAT (Oscilloscopes and things);D
 

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #93 on: September 21, 2013, 05:08:04 pm »
The new name is obvious-----T & M !!

Or they could go with EME!

Or,

OAT (Oscilloscopes and things);D

ACME
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #94 on: September 21, 2013, 07:49:47 pm »
What other anagrams of genital would work?

I know it isn't an anagram, but there is a fashion here in the UK of taking something obvious and adding -ica on to the word, to make a corporate name. So how about Testica? If you wanted to promote the analysis side, you could call yourself TesticAnal.

I suppose if you wanted it to be more trendy and clueless, you could be iTestica. or DotiTestica. Chances are the new name is going to be a load of balls anyway.

HPTM would be fine by me. Tell your market that you are engineer driven, not marketing exec driven. Hewlett Packard Test and Measurement.

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #95 on: September 21, 2013, 09:17:54 pm »
What other anagrams of genital would work?

I know it isn't an anagram, but there is a fashion here in the UK of taking something obvious and adding -ica on to the word, to make a corporate name. So how about Testica? If you wanted to promote the analysis side, you could call yourself TesticAnal.

I suppose if you wanted it to be more trendy and clueless, you could be iTestica. or DotiTestica. Chances are the new name is going to be a load of balls anyway.

HPTM would be fine by me. Tell your market that you are engineer driven, not marketing exec driven. Hewlett Packard Test and Measurement.

And their calibration service could be called TestiCal
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #96 on: September 21, 2013, 09:19:41 pm »
Sagan Instruments.

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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #97 on: September 21, 2013, 11:56:28 pm »
The new name is obvious-----T & M !!

Or they could go with EME!

Or,

OAT (Oscilloscopes and things);D

ACME

They would always have a guaranteed customer base in Warner Bros! ;D

There used to be a manufacturer of Coax connectors (good ones,too!) in Oz called ACME.
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Re: Agilent Splitting into two companies - new name?
« Reply #98 on: September 22, 2013, 11:52:24 am »
Agilent Commercial Measurement Equipment AKA ACME
 


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