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| apis:
--- Quote from: bd139 on March 26, 2019, 02:40:40 pm --- --- Quote from: apis on March 26, 2019, 02:05:19 pm ---I was looking at a Thinkpad but the T-series is pretty pricey for private individuals. --- End quote --- Mine is 4 years old and cost me half the price of a bottom end pile of consumer crap. I have added an SSD, full HD display, extended battery to it and broken even on an HP netbook price. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: rdl on March 26, 2019, 03:17:46 pm ---Have you considered used? I've been looking off and on for a T-520 of some kind on ebay. If I actually needed a laptop, I probably would've bought one by now. I've seen some pretty good deals go by, even assuming I would probably want a new battery and possibly SSD and RAM upgrades. --- End quote --- Thanks for the advice, I've never really considered that option, I will definitely try that next time. |
| BBBbbb:
fairly related: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/d3mqna/internal-documents-show-apple-is-capable-of-implementing-right-to-repair-legislation |
| bd139:
It's probably something they are rolling out quietly. Apple tend to sit in absolute silence then suddenly do the right thing and make a lot of noise about it. The silence is frustrating and attracts a lot of criticism though. However I'm not a proponent of "right to repair" if I'm honest. There's a big difference between people who are capable of repairing things and people who aren't and the latter should not be motivated to attempt it because all it results in is fucked up stuff. This fucked up stuff tends to then come to me, as the local Mr Fixit. Fine example is the iPhone 6 I recently did with a bad battery. The "user" turned up with a replacement battery he had bought on eBay, which is fair enough. However he'd tried to use the tool kit that came with it to replace the battery already. Basically all he'd done is destroy the pentalobe screws entirely and then deny that the battery came with a screwdriver (even though it had a picture of one on the front of the bag, a spudger and a couple of suckers in it) :palm: |
| madires:
If someone likes to screw up his broken iGadget even more by trying to repair it it's his decision. But he shouldn't be surprised when the proper repair will become more expensive because of the additional damage he caused. This is not about trying to make everything bullet proof for people with two left hands, it's about giving users the freedom to choose between repairing something DIY, asking a friend, going to an independent repair shop or visiting an authorized shop. |
| rsjsouza:
--- Quote from: tooki on March 26, 2019, 10:30:15 am ---A big question I haven’t seen addressed by anyone yet is what Apple charges for out-of-warranty replacement/repair of AirPods with worn out batteries. In an iPhone, for example, they charge about $80 for this, a far cry from the cost of a new phone. (And yes, this is often an actual phone replacement, if the battery replacement is considered too hazardous to perform in-store, like when a battery is bulging.) I have a suspicion that the cost is reasonable and that this a ton of ado about nothing. --- End quote --- I agree with your point but, as oPossum mentioned, $49 per unit (totaling 66% of a new one) is too hefty (I didn't verify this information). --- Quote from: tooki on March 26, 2019, 10:30:15 am --- --- Quote from: rdl on March 26, 2019, 04:16:42 am ---Non-replaceable batteries are stupid and should be illegal. --- End quote --- Battery compartments and covers add significant physical size, so omitting them is a reasonable design decision. And battery compartments make tight waterproofing much harder to do. --- End quote --- You could make the case that "non-replaceable" may mean "non-end-user-replaceable", which would remove the need to have a complete battery compartment. I suspect the biggest criticism against Airpods is having its internals fully sealed. --- Quote from: tooki on March 26, 2019, 10:30:15 am --- --- Quote from: james_s on March 26, 2019, 03:18:18 am ---Why anyone would buy those ridiculous looking Airpods has always been a mystery to me. There are countless bluetooth headphones out there that work at least as well, run much longer on a charge and cost a lot less. As an added bonus they don't look goofy. --- End quote --- You think wearing big headphones out on the street looks more goofy than AirPods? :o --- End quote --- :-DD --- Quote from: tooki on March 26, 2019, 10:30:15 am --- --- Quote from: Halcyon on March 26, 2019, 04:49:03 am ---I'll add to that -- By buying an Apple product, you also acknowledge that it has a finite lifespan and you should expect it to fail sooner than you think. --- End quote --- And yet, on average, last significantly longer than competing products... --- End quote --- I would be very careful there, tooki. The quality of the A-brand competitors reached a very high level of quality - that and the fact I can't still shake the fragility of the aluminium case of my 2015 Macbook Pro. --- Quote from: amyk on March 27, 2019, 12:31:45 am --- --- Quote from: bd139 on March 26, 2019, 12:03:40 pm ---How do you make smaller, more efficent things without sacrificing repair? --- End quote --- By using your brain. How would you design AirPods with replaceable batteries? The carrying/charging case is simple, just don't glue everything together. --- End quote --- I think bd139's point is unquestionable; you have to sacrifice repair to get things smaller and sleeker - the SMD massive adoption in the 1980's with the consequential FRU replacement was one of the most striking examples that I can remember. However, the argument is when the design for repairability stops and the malice starts. Sure, the Airpods are innovative and perhaps demanded such level of integration, but one can't deny the competition can create a product mechanically as good while keeping the repairability in check. I won't hold my breath for changes, though. As mentioned by bd139, currently Apple has no pressure to change their status quo. |
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