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Ah, here we go again with the “eco” phone nonsense.
james_s:
--- Quote from: tooki on October 22, 2021, 01:46:43 am ---I haven’t seen them in person yet, but while I doubt it’d bother me the way it does you guys, it certainly seems like an unnecessary tradeoff for such a small decrease in bezel. What did stand out to me is the grotesque asymmetry in the corner radiuses of the top lid and bottom cases, as seen from the side when closed. It’s like they cobbled together the lid and bottom from two different designs…
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I haven't seen the new Macbooks in person yet but I've seen lots of notched iPhones and I hate them every bit as much now as I did the first time I saw them. I also absolutely cannot stand the rabid fanbois who love to blow off my complaints as whining over nothing. I'm OCD, I know this, I'm not offended by people calling it what it is, a mental disorder, but whatever, things like the notch cut out of the display, or a logo floating in the corner of the TV, or a blob of dead pixels or a spitwad on the screen, it drives me absolutely NUTS, I can't ignore it, it's like talking to someone that has something obviously stuck in their teeth. It's doubly annoying that I know most of those people who blow off my complaints as ridiculous whining over nothing would absolutely blow a gasket if I suggested a person with depression "just get over it" or some other such thing.
Now I think you already know this but I am not anti-Apple by any means. I've had an employer issued Macbook Pro since 2018 and there are a lot of things I really love about it, the OS is fantastic compared to recent versions of Windows, the fit & finish is great, but the keyboard is crap, I've never liked the lack of ports, and while I really tried to like the touchbar I just never found a good use for it and it doesn't work as well as physical keys for most of what I do use it for, it's too easy to bump it accidentally. They fixed almost all of these things in the new one, but then they screwed it all up with that infuriating notch, and I'm fairly sure they did it just as a fashion statement, people see the notch and they know you're using the latest Macbook, until cheap PC clone laptops start copying it in a few weeks. It's like they actually listened to almost every complaint I had about the Macbook I have and fixed them all, then slapped me in the face giving it a stupid notch.
james_s:
--- Quote from: Halcyon on October 20, 2021, 09:07:32 am ---That's like saying Linux is utter garbage because someone made a crap distro. Android itself is leaps and bounds ahead of Apple iOS in terms of customisability and features. It generally always has been. When a manufacturer butchers a product, whether it be Android, Linux, embedded versions of Windows etc... etc... doesn't mean that everything is garbage. Plain Android (or as close to plain as you can get) is awesome. The crap that comes out of China like ColorOS is shit and I wouldn't trust it with security, privacy or stability as far as I could throw the device.
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I have several Android devices, I tried to like it, I really did, for those reasons you mention, it is absolutely more customizable than iOS. I just can't though, every device I've ever had that runs Android is glitchy and buggy, it's hard to even put a finger on what it is I don't like about it but it just doesn't work the way I do and I don't like it. I love Linux and I love open source software, I really, really wish that iOS was more open, but I tolerate the way that it is because my phone is a tool, I don't tinker with it, I don't hack it, I rely heavily on it and don't want to risk breaking it. I would never tolerate this kind of locked down inflexibility in a general purpose computer but a phone, I just want it to work. There is no great mobile OS, I just find iOS less intolerable than Android.
Zero999:
I can't think of anything which is fixed in Windows 10. The user interface is now even more inconsistent, with Metro apps being huge, compared to traditional programs. Some of the keyboard shortcuts no longer work. On Windows 7 and before, I could quickly shutdown a PC, by pressing the Windows key, u and enter. On Windows 10, it just searches for programs on the start menu beginning with u. :palm:
The new MS Office Ribbon UI is crap. It often takes more mouse clicks to do the same thing, as older versions. Even using keyboard shortcuts doesn't help much. In previous versions I could get straight to the open file dialog box by pressing ctr+o. Now it takes me to a list of recently opened files, which occupies the entire screen. To get to the open file dialog box, I have to select browse. The whole thing is rubbish.
It isn't a case of me resisting change. I've used most Windows versions since 3, as well as non-MS operating systems such as Acorn OS and various Linux desktops and still say Windows 10 is pretty bad. I just don't know what Microsoft were thinking. |O
PlainName:
--- Quote ---I didn’t say that every aspect is better!
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True! Sorry :)
--- Quote --- (One that’s right at the top for me: scrolling the object under the mouse, not the object that has focus.)
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I'm on W7 and that's how my scrolling with the mouse works for me. In fact I just tried it to be sure because it's so 'normal' I thought I might be misremembering. I think there was a setting I had to change, but it's so long ago I can't recall if it was in the OS or mouse driver. A quick check of the driver (Logitech) doesn't show anything, though. I note that my window manager has the option to 'scroll inactive windows with the mouse', but that's not enabled! Damn, this is annoying now.
--- Quote ---Case in point Apple just released a new line of Macbooks that have a freaking notch cut out of the top of the screen
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!!! <--- speechless
thinkfat:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on October 19, 2021, 10:29:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: thinkfat on October 19, 2021, 01:02:23 pm ---You lose the "Play Store" and with it you lose all other apps, too. Apps are the single, most important feature that "make" a smartphone. Selling Android phones without Google stuff has been tried and everyone failed, and each time the reason was "no apps available".
If you want to keep using all the popular apps, you need to download them from sketchy servers, trading privacy for security (and you cannot have privacy without security).
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Look up "APK downloader" on Github and you'll find quite a few of those. Then there's F-Droid, the app store that specializes in open source apps.
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What difference does it make whether I download the APKs manually or use an equally sketchy tool to do it? :palm:
--- Quote ---As for Google services, they are valuable to many. Ad revenue is an important driver for content creators. YouTube is the best example. MicroG does not give you that.
--- Quote ---There are better Youtube viewer apps like Youtube Vanced and Newpipe. Those who do want the ads to support creators but don't want the ads disrupting their enjoyment of the content (or getting creeped out by ads that track too closely) can leave the video playing with ads on a cheap or old device while watching without ads on their "good" device.
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Sigh. The whole scheme gets more impratical with each of your responses. Now I need a "good" phone that is de-googled and does nothing and a throw-away phone that is allowed to deliver ads. How is that supposed to make a No-Google Android device attractive to a "normal" person.
I'm not saying that a device purely based on AOSP isn't a nice thing - for a nerd. It's just not a nice thing _to_have_ if your needs don't primarily revolve around privacy or you just like to tinker.
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