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Ah, here we go again with the “eco” phone nonsense.
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PlainName:

--- Quote ---somebody will probably find it sooner or later
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In some stuff it has been very much later, presumably because everyone thought someone else was looking at it.

There is also the problem that malicious actors can spot flaws and exploit them more easily (and know that since they have the latest source, no-one has fixed them yet).

https://www.technologyreview.com/2010/06/07/262916/open-source-could-mean-an-open-door-for-hackers/

--- Quote ---The data supports the assertion that flaws in open-source software tend to be attacked more quickly and more often than vulnerabilities in closed-source software, says Sam Ransbotham, assistant professor at Boston College’s Carroll School of Management and the author of the paper.
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james_s:
Nothing is ever perfect, but I'd rather have access to the code than not. Maybe I'll never actually look through it and maybe I won't find anything useful if I do, but I still like the fact that I can.
eti:

--- Quote from: james_s on October 22, 2021, 10:54:33 pm ---Nothing is ever perfect, but I'd rather have access to the code than not. Maybe I'll never actually look through it and maybe I won't find anything useful if I do, but I still like the fact that I can.

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That’s the whole hype angle of “Open source” - they KNOW you could but won’t, and because you base your trust on that naivety, who knows what stuff gets through? (and don’t tell me it doesn’t and that “ someone would pick up on it”)
NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: thinkfat on October 22, 2021, 02:50:22 pm ---I could also jump through hoops. My point still stands: A de-Googled Android phone is not a practical device, no more than any of the existing Open Source options out there. None of them managed to take off. Everything you brought to the table just adds another layer of hurt.

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Would it be better to just move the Play Store app (which you blindly trust?) into a restricted environment so that it only runs when you want to use it and has very limited access to personal data?
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.oasisfeng.island.fdroid/
Halcyon:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on October 23, 2021, 12:34:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: thinkfat on October 22, 2021, 02:50:22 pm ---I could also jump through hoops. My point still stands: A de-Googled Android phone is not a practical device, no more than any of the existing Open Source options out there. None of them managed to take off. Everything you brought to the table just adds another layer of hurt.

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Would it be better to just move the Play Store app (which you blindly trust?) into a restricted environment so that it only runs when you want to use it and has very limited access to personal data?
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.oasisfeng.island.fdroid/

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Security/privacy is always a trade-off with user experience. Whether you're using the Apple store or the Google Play store, you forego certain things for the easy-to-use experience. I've used Android devices in the past where none of the Google services were installed and it's an absolute pain in the ass. Sideloading applications isn't hard in itself, it's just getting access to reputable copies of the APK makes it risky. I'd rather just get them from Google Play as I know they are the real deal and the risk of malicious software is extremely remote. I really don't care if Google know which applications I've installed, it means nothing. What I do care about is what private or personal information Google keeps on me and part of that is simply not supplying that information in the first place.
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