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Ah, here we go again with the “eco” phone nonsense.
thm_w:
Seems like a completely reasonable idea to me
NiHaoMike:
--- Quote from: eti on October 12, 2021, 07:57:51 pm ---Fairphone = Android, Android = Google, and Google = the MASTERS of lacking ethics and spying, the GRAND masters of everything "woke" and devious.
--- End quote ---
It's quite easy to take Google out of Android, without disassembling or rooting the device.
https://gitlab.com/W1nst0n/universal-android-debloater
I have never heard of anyone managing to take Apple out of iOS.
Fixed_Until_Broken:
Clear cut and dry ego massage.
--- Quote from: eti on October 12, 2021, 08:03:07 pm ---iPhone 6S is running iOS 15 - that's *SIX YEARS* of updates. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Android.
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BTW Blackberry released OS 7.1 back in 2011 or 2010 EOL is January 4, 2022. Just saying. Not sure how long they kept making updates but the military had kept using them up until last year so (US). They now work on android based stuff and blackberries whole business is security.
--- Quote from: eti on October 12, 2021, 12:43:14 am ---That's a nice daydream...
The industry play-acts, emulating "caring".
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Are you stroking your ego hard enough? I didn't say the manufacture will get security perfect at all in my post. I said security can be improved by being open source.
BTW which manufacture was posting people's nudes and sex tapes online from their repair center recently? Oh, that's right apple. Who just had a massive zero-day 2 weeks ago. Apple again. So stop being a fanboy. Android isn't perfect but I am not the one being an ego-stroking fanboy...
No manufacture truly cares about security, they care about public image and that's it. Now if public image means you have to work harder on security that's one thing but truly caring give me a break. They care about $$$. everything would be end-to-end encrypted if they really cared.
eti:
--- Quote from: Fixed_Until_Broken on October 12, 2021, 10:30:47 pm ---Clear cut and dry ego massage.
--- Quote from: eti on October 12, 2021, 08:03:07 pm ---iPhone 6S is running iOS 15 - that's *SIX YEARS* of updates. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Android.
--- End quote ---
BTW Blackberry released OS 7.1 back in 2011 or 2010 EOL is January 4, 2022. Just saying. Not sure how long they kept making updates but the military had kept using them up until last year so (US). They now work on android based stuff and blackberries whole business is security.
--- Quote from: eti on October 12, 2021, 12:43:14 am ---That's a nice daydream...
The industry play-acts, emulating "caring".
--- End quote ---
Are you stroking your ego hard enough? I didn't say the manufacture will get security perfect at all in my post. I said security can be improved by being open source.
BTW which manufacture was posting people's nudes and sex tapes online from their repair center recently? Oh, that's right apple. Who just had a massive zero-day 2 weeks ago. Apple again. So stop being a fanboy. Android isn't perfect but I am not the one being an ego-stroking fanboy...
No manufacture truly cares about security, they care about public image and that's it. Now if public image means you have to work harder on security that's one thing but truly caring give me a break. They care about $$$. everything would be end-to-end encrypted if they really cared.
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Your tone is not conducive to a productive discussion. Ad homimem is never a way to change someone's mind, OR to keep things civil, and I am hoping you can see that. My liking Apple's approach to updates and hardware quality, doesn't automatically make me a raving "fanboy" - why is the internet SO "all or nothing" in these swings to one extremity or the other on a scale of something? REAL PHYSICAL LIFE is not like that, so it baffles me as to why online interactions become this way.
I have no time for interacting in this manner - can you not be polite please?
Halcyon:
--- Quote from: eti on October 12, 2021, 07:57:51 pm ---Fairphone = Android, Android = Google, and Google = the MASTERS of lacking ethics and spying, the GRAND masters of everything "woke" and devious.
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A rather generic and inaccurate comment based on nothing more than opinion I would suggest.
If you want facts: Apple devices actually collect and store more user information, including user interaction than Android devices. iPhones are an absolute treasure trove of granular detail if you're the type of person interested in delving into things like the knowledgec.db database.
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