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Ah, here we go again with the “eco” phone nonsense.

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tooki:

--- Quote from: james_s on October 13, 2021, 01:41:15 am ---The curved screen trend I really don't get. We spent decades trying to make screens as flat as possible, then when we finally have completely flat screens with nice square corners we start making them curved again because we can?

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RIGHT???!? I am puzzled by the curved screen lunacy. I guess flat screens made it too easy to avoid reflections, so let's use curved screens that always reflect something?!? (And take more room.)

(Round corners, however, I kinda like.)


--- Quote from: james_s on October 13, 2021, 01:41:15 am ---I hate the notches and holes in screens too, I don't really grasp the point of the "all screen" phone. A screen that is all there, uninterrupted, and not compromised by a chunk cut out of it is far superior than a screen that spans edge to edge. Bezels have a purpose, it gives you something to hold onto and frames the display. When people hang a painting or photo on the wall they usually put it in a frame for the same reason.

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Well, I think picture frames primarily served the purposes of covering the ugly edges of painted canvases, and of providing a strong attachment point. The proliferation of borderless photo frames (and posters, which are typically put up frameless) kinda undermines the argument of them needing a visual frame.

Bezels, on the other hand, serve a very real purpose in handheld devices, totally in agreement with you.

Just_another_Dave:

--- Quote from: tooki on October 13, 2021, 12:25:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 12, 2021, 01:56:44 pm ---Providing updates for old devices is actually interesting for them. If they forced you to buy a new device, you might change to android, whereas updating old devices ensures continuing receiving app purchase fees from those users.

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Yes, it's in Apple's interest to keep you as a customer.


--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 12, 2021, 01:56:44 pm ---hat motivation doesn’t exist for manufacturers of android devices, as they don’t receive money from apps purchased in old phones

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Huh? What does the brand of your old phone matter? Apple makes its money on app sales at the time of purchase, that's it. Whether it's on a new or old iPhone is irrelevant.

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Unless you buy apps from your manufacturer’s App Store (samsung, huawei, Xiaomi, etc), they don’t get a cut of the sales made by any of their phones (as far as I know). That reduces the interest on updating their devices, as just selling new ones generates revenue for them (Google is the one that receives a fee when android apps are bought)

tooki:

--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 13, 2021, 01:06:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on October 13, 2021, 12:25:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 12, 2021, 01:56:44 pm ---Providing updates for old devices is actually interesting for them. If they forced you to buy a new device, you might change to android, whereas updating old devices ensures continuing receiving app purchase fees from those users.

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Yes, it's in Apple's interest to keep you as a customer.


--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 12, 2021, 01:56:44 pm ---hat motivation doesn’t exist for manufacturers of android devices, as they don’t receive money from apps purchased in old phones

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Huh? What does the brand of your old phone matter? Apple makes its money on app sales at the time of purchase, that's it. Whether it's on a new or old iPhone is irrelevant.

--- End quote ---

Unless you buy apps from your manufacturer’s App Store (samsung, huawei, Xiaomi, etc), they don’t get a cut of the sales made by any of their phones (as far as I know). That reduces the interest on updating their devices, as just selling new ones generates revenue for them (Google is the one that receives a fee when android apps are bought)

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Well yeah, I get that. But they don't get app revenue period, regardless of whether you buy the app on your old phone or the new one. Your wording just threw me off, making me think you meant something else.

Just_another_Dave:

--- Quote from: tooki on October 13, 2021, 01:57:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 13, 2021, 01:06:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on October 13, 2021, 12:25:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 12, 2021, 01:56:44 pm ---Providing updates for old devices is actually interesting for them. If they forced you to buy a new device, you might change to android, whereas updating old devices ensures continuing receiving app purchase fees from those users.

--- End quote ---
Yes, it's in Apple's interest to keep you as a customer.


--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 12, 2021, 01:56:44 pm ---hat motivation doesn’t exist for manufacturers of android devices, as they don’t receive money from apps purchased in old phones

--- End quote ---
Huh? What does the brand of your old phone matter? Apple makes its money on app sales at the time of purchase, that's it. Whether it's on a new or old iPhone is irrelevant.

--- End quote ---

Unless you buy apps from your manufacturer’s App Store (samsung, huawei, Xiaomi, etc), they don’t get a cut of the sales made by any of their phones (as far as I know). That reduces the interest on updating their devices, as just selling new ones generates revenue for them (Google is the one that receives a fee when android apps are bought)

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Well yeah, I get that. But they don't get app revenue period, regardless of whether you buy the app on your old phone or the new one. Your wording just threw me off, making me think you meant something else.

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I realized that my wording could lead to confusions when I saw your message. By old phones I meant already sold ones

JPortici:

--- Quote from: Just_another_Dave on October 12, 2021, 01:56:44 pm ---Providing updates for old devices is actually interesting for them. If they forced you to buy a new device, you might change to android, whereas updating old devices ensures continuing receiving app purchase fees from those users. That motivation doesn’t exist for manufacturers of android devices, as they don’t receive money from apps purchased in old phones

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And then there's the last major update for the old device that renders it uselessly slow. The only alternative is to buy a new device :)

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