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| rsjsouza:
--- Quote from: james_s on October 15, 2021, 06:02:30 am ---I trust Apple more than Google simply because Apple is not an advertising company and does not depend on harvesting marketable data. That is not to say I particularly trust either one though, or any other company. The primary reason I chose an iPhone is it was the only decent small smartphone I could find. Also I like imessage better than SMS because I can text my friends in Canada for free. --- End quote --- Going for Android are the de-googled phones. https://centipedenation.com/second-column/the-privacy-guy-rob-braxman-on-using-de-googled-phones/ Not ideal, but not bad either. |
| thinkfat:
--- Quote from: rsjsouza on October 15, 2021, 12:18:46 pm --- --- Quote from: james_s on October 15, 2021, 06:02:30 am ---I trust Apple more than Google simply because Apple is not an advertising company and does not depend on harvesting marketable data. That is not to say I particularly trust either one though, or any other company. The primary reason I chose an iPhone is it was the only decent small smartphone I could find. Also I like imessage better than SMS because I can text my friends in Canada for free. --- End quote --- Going for Android are the de-googled phones. https://centipedenation.com/second-column/the-privacy-guy-rob-braxman-on-using-de-googled-phones/ Not ideal, but not bad either. --- End quote --- You'd have to be really hardcore about privacy if you accepted the near-complete loss of functionality that de-googling an Android phone brings along. |
| thinkfat:
--- Quote from: tooki on October 15, 2021, 10:11:40 am --- --- Quote from: Halcyon on October 15, 2021, 03:30:22 am --- --- Quote from: tooki on October 14, 2021, 09:42:46 am ---That may be so for their paid hosted services, but you can’t pay your way out of Google tracking you around the internet to show ads. --- End quote --- You absolutely can. If you think Apple is somewhat more "trustworthy" than Google, you're sadly mistaken. --- End quote --- Sorry, but you’re dead wrong. --- End quote --- How can a multi-billion operation like Apple be anything but entirely without morals? |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: thinkfat on October 15, 2021, 04:30:27 pm --- --- Quote from: tooki on October 15, 2021, 10:11:40 am --- --- Quote from: Halcyon on October 15, 2021, 03:30:22 am --- --- Quote from: tooki on October 14, 2021, 09:42:46 am ---That may be so for their paid hosted services, but you can’t pay your way out of Google tracking you around the internet to show ads. --- End quote --- You absolutely can. If you think Apple is somewhat more "trustworthy" than Google, you're sadly mistaken. --- End quote --- Sorry, but you’re dead wrong. --- End quote --- How can a multi-billion operation like Apple be anything but entirely without morals? --- End quote --- Well, it depends on the company leadership. User-centricity is demonstrated by things like the CEO telling a major investor to pound sand when they complained about the expense of putting in accessibility features that go well beyond what the law requires, or the fact that their store employees are trained to give the customer the right product for them, not the most expensive product (they don’t work on commission, and the metrics don’t care whether they sell a customer a $999 MacBook or a $9999 Mac Pro: each counts simply as 1 Mac sale). Additionally, it’s no secret that Apple’s business model revolves around selling hardware and services. What they aren’t reliant on at all is ad revenue, so they don’t need the user data. Contrast this with Google, whose entire business is built upon a foundation of ad revenue (80%), and that in turn relies on user data in order to target the ads. In a nutshell: Apple’s product is goods and services, and its customers are end users. Google’s customers are advertisers, and its product is you. This is why Apple cares about end users, and Google doesn’t. But as I stated in an earlier reply: even if Apple’s motivation to protect user privacy is simply a way to set itself apart from the competition in order to sell more product, so what? The end result is nonetheless a company acting to protect its users. The motivation doesn’t change the effectiveness of the end result. |
| Halcyon:
--- Quote from: tooki on October 15, 2021, 10:11:40 am --- --- Quote from: Halcyon on October 15, 2021, 03:30:22 am --- --- Quote from: tooki on October 14, 2021, 09:42:46 am ---That may be so for their paid hosted services, but you can’t pay your way out of Google tracking you around the internet to show ads. --- End quote --- You absolutely can. If you think Apple is somewhat more "trustworthy" than Google, you're sadly mistaken. --- End quote --- Sorry, but you’re dead wrong. --- End quote --- Gee, all this time I must have been imagining it then. |
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