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Ah, here we go again with the “eco” phone nonsense.

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eti:
These folk are as far from understanding what the man in the street ACTUALLY wants to buy, as the east is from the west.

This is an ego massage for a tiny fraction of a VAST consumer base of smartphone users, so they can feel “responsible”, and somehow sleep better at night. Guys, people just want to buy a phone and use it to get things done, and have the interface and mechanisms INVISIBLE to them (the best design is no design at all - it shouldn’t crow about what it’s able to do - the user should try something that feels inevitable, instinctive, and have it happen - this is called “iPhone”)

Whether or not (hint: definitely gonna be NOT) this becomes the norm, the average owner wouldn’t know about the inner machinations of their phone - this stuff is, and rightly so, abstracted away from the man in the street so that the experience is:

Pick phone up > tap “Mail” > tap “compose” > tap “Send” > put phone down and start cooking dinner. People have busy lives and have better things to do than have you burden them with virtue signalling nonsense like this. The onus is on the manufacturer to make their supply chains environmentally friendly - this is just another failed, tedious episode of the same marketing stunt (or a get rich quick attempt by the designers)

It’s all well and good making this stuff, but if it hasn’t caught on by now, errrrrr, helloooo?

https://www.androidpolice.com/the-fairphone-4-is-the-companys-sleekestlooking-product-yet/

What a load of old nonsense.

PS: Normal people don’t care about the hippy dippy “open source” virtue signalling - they rarely would ever know what it means, and good for them - they want it TO WORK WELL, and they want and need superb support, and to know that they’re not the sole person in their entire life that owns this thing, so that someone can help them.

This is another load of cack.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: eti on October 12, 2021, 12:43:14 am ---PS: Normal people don’t care about the hippy dippy “open source” virtue signalling - they rarely would ever know what it means, and good for them - they want it TO WORK WELL, and they want and need superb support, and to know that they’re not the sole person in their entire life that owns this thing, so that someone can help them.

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They don't care about that directly but they will care about it indirectly when it comes time to keeping the device useful for longer. It provides a way out of the manufacturers deprecating support for a product in order to sell an incremental improvement of the same product, a rather wasteful practice.

eti:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on October 12, 2021, 01:13:13 am ---
--- Quote from: eti on October 12, 2021, 12:43:14 am ---PS: Normal people don’t care about the hippy dippy “open source” virtue signalling - they rarely would ever know what it means, and good for them - they want it TO WORK WELL, and they want and need superb support, and to know that they’re not the sole person in their entire life that owns this thing, so that someone can help them.

--- End quote ---
They don't care about that directly but they will care about it indirectly when it comes time to keeping the device useful for longer. It provides a way out of the manufacturers deprecating support for a product in order to sell an incremental improvement of the same product, a rather wasteful practice.

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It'll never take off mainstream. Never. Fact.

NiHaoMike:
Now that it's not unusual for a smartphone to cost $1000 or more, it probably won't be long before many get upset about having to spend that more often than necessary.

eti:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on October 12, 2021, 01:21:45 am ---Now that it's not unusual for a smartphone to cost $1000 or more, it probably won't be long before many get upset about having to spend that more often than necessary.

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I don’t see that many people upset about it. Most people pay in tiny instalments - drip feeding the carriers their costs back. Yeah the phones are a lot, but despite what anyone protests about to the contrary, Apple make the best phones and people will continue to buy them - they’ve earnt their reputation and people want what they know and love.

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