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langwadt:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on March 07, 2024, 07:55:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on March 07, 2024, 07:30:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on March 07, 2024, 06:32:34 pm ---It's certainly true that governments do lie. I do agree that laws are not the solution here. Authoritarianism tends to make the poplation more prone to conspiracy theories.

There is no fix for this. Unfortunately people will believe what they want to. The same is true for laws designed to suppress misinformation on social media. It's better to allow people to post it, then people are free to debunk it.

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As we live in an overly regulated world with more laws then ever, people are already more then fed up, but allowing full freedom of speech on the internet is very very dangerous. On the one hand I'm all for freedom of speech, but one also has to bare in mind what consequences there are when posting something, and there in lies the problem. Sometimes it is hard to see why something is a problem and why some individual or larger group takes offense of it, and on the other side it is also true that some take offense to easily.

Human emotions and feelings are very complex and also kind of fashion driven. Today it is a lot about gender, so many years ago it was more about religion or race, etc. To me one thing is for sure, the human race is not capable of finding a sustainable balance, and this whole AI thing is not going to help with it either.

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Offence is taken, not given.

Absolute free speech isn't allowed. Calling for violence is generally illegal, even in the freest of societies.

The problem with laws aimed at dealing with misinformation is no single authority can be trusted to be the sole arbiter of the truth. A law designed to tackle medical misinformation, say anti-vax conspiracy theories or the promotion of bogus cancer treatments, might sound good on the face of it, but the law itself has the potential to be far more dangerous, given the power of the pharmaceutical industry and how common medical reversals are. It has the potential to stop doctors from questioning the efficacy of medical treatments and raising the alarm of serious adverse safety signals.

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and banning something, only serves as confirmation and strengthens the conspiracy theorists belief that the something is the truth "the authorities" don't want the people to know about

soldar:
I often tutor my 13 year old wife's nephew. Recently he had to write an essay about a certain period of American history and he worked on it and then I spent a couple hours talking with him about the topic so he spent more time on this than the issue really required .

He turned in his essay and a few days later was distraught when he was told the teacher had graded him zero because she believed it was not his work and he had used AI to write the essay. Her only proof was that she thought the writing was not quite his style.

Poor kid was distraught and we tried to cheer him up saying it showed he had done very well and we would email the teacher saying we had seen him do the work and even tutored him. Which we did.

Teacher, bitter old maid, did not even reply to our email and tried to avoid the kid when he would go to talk to her. Finally she said she still did not believe him but she would give him a low but passing grade. And that he shouldn't listen to family members who "are not experts". The stupidity of all this is just staggering. She just does not want to concede and I suppose she thought maintaining the zero grade would result in escalating the issue, which she did not want.

It would have been much more reasonable for her to call him in and question him regarding the essay and it would have been very apparent whether he knew the substance of the topic or whether that was not his work.

So kid has learnt a different lesson: that life is not always fair and that people with power over you can screw you and there's not much you can do. Just hope that next year you have a different teacher, a less incompetent teacher.

And that is my AI anecdote today. More about human stupidity than AI though.
SiliconWizard:
You can only help people build critical thought and learn how to check facts and evidences through education.
Any attempt to do that for them by law is totalitarian in nature and bound to make them more stupid, more dependent and make the very few that statistically will still exist with an ounce of critical thought become paranoid.
PlainName:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on March 07, 2024, 06:32:34 pm ---There is no fix for this. Unfortunately people will believe what they want to. The same is true for laws designed to suppress misinformation on social media. It's better to allow people to post it, then people are free to debunk it.

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Doesn't work like that, I'm afraid. A debunker will, by definition, be rational and 'straight-up' whereas the conspiracy nut can and will do things the rational person wouldn't. The conspiracy nut plays to the gallery, and knows how to do so (otherwise they would be down in the noise and a nobody). The straight guy wouldn't dream of stooping to such shit. Thus the conspiracy will nearly always win over the debunking.

And... conspiracies usually contain at least one hard fact, and then use that undisputable fact to justify all the following bollocks. It is really hard to debunk a real fact, so you're on a loser before you even start.
RJSV:
   (Soldar:)
(Nicely written, uh, hmmm ?....Now I'm starting to wonder?...No, can't be,)

   Soldar:   Don't worry, too much about current unfairness, of, like you said, people with power over others.   KARMA, remember ?   Takes time to manifest, sometimes.

   I had the advantageous POWER setting, in one season, unaware of the whole karma dynamic.
Abuse reined unchecked for a (short) time.   Others weren't happy, that's for sure!   But later my own karma caught up...

   Or, other way around, I've been on receiving end, of 'unfairness', where the dirty perpetrators got a serving of fate, and rather quick, while I was gone from the scene.

   Maybe always doesn't go that way, but I've been told that it nearly always does.   Maybe you could tell kid that:   Mind your own (karma) is a factor known by many,  or used to be.
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