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Aliexpress and eBay prices to go up?
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Marco:
That at least is competition, but you can't pull fake invoice shit to avoid import tax that way.

Trump is right here, the clear UPU injustice has lasted more than long enough that the only reasonable action for the US/EU is to threaten to leave. It is the only way things can change. He might be right on accident, but still right.

The UPU vote is end of September by the way, trying for maximum delay to lobby their way out of it.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: bd139 on August 29, 2019, 08:18:19 am ---Aliexpress will just do what Banggood do which is build a warehouse in the US and charge to keep stock in it or bring containers over and run their own customs clearance / import for their sellers.

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Aliexpress is already building a warehouse in Europe.
bd139:
Just a point on the cheap shipping thing. Most of this is actually because China quotes postage on weight and USPS (and most of Europe) is a tiered system on volume/weight.

A fine example of a piece of shit here. Both packages 80g:

Package 1 ... 35.3 x 25 x 2.5 .... £0.86 second class

Package 2 .... 35.3 x 25 x 2.6 ... £2.90 second class, only 3.4x the price for an extra mm.

China Post ... same amount  :-//

You have no idea the arguments I have got into in our local post offices above the extra millimeter here and there and because their own staff don't understand the tiering system or purposely want to charge you more.

I argue that postal services are trying to protect their monopolised rip off price tier system rather than the customers and Trump is using this as a good soundbite for some China hate.

National postal services used to be a bastion of communications purely by scale and monopoly but that isn't true now. They're declining because other private companies such as couriers and even Amazon etc aren't getting screwed for that tiering. It's economically viable to actually take them on at their own game now and for that they will adapt or die. This is the wiggling stage before the death gasps.
magic:

--- Quote from: bd139 on August 29, 2019, 08:18:19 am ---Don't get excited. Nothing will change  :-//

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Availability of that junk probably isn't changing as long as there are suckers for it and nobody with the power to stop it on a whim, like it could be done in a less democratic country such as China if deemed necessary by Powers That Be.

What hopefully is changing is that sending a domestic parcel or ordering something delivered by snail mail will no longer pay for all the freeloaders importing from AliBay.
Marco:
Most national postal systems are losing money and they don't have a monopoly to begin with.

With a true free market postal system there would be no UPU.
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