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Offline SionynTopic starter

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All This To Change A bulb
« on: June 03, 2012, 01:56:39 pm »
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2012, 02:13:39 pm »
yeah, i still can not watch the whole video........

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2012, 03:27:46 pm »
hell no, i would simply leave it be or go there with a helicopter. or change it to something wihch last 30 years atleast. stupid construction
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2012, 03:32:07 pm »
You could not pay me enough to climb that tower.....or any tower.....
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2012, 03:44:33 pm »
Harrowing, but at the same time, emotions aside, you would be just as dead from a 170ft drop as a 1,700ft one.

Biggest problem with the video is the way it moves around with the guys head. If it was YOUR head hooked to YOUR body, I don't think it would be nearly as disorienting/nauseating.
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 04:52:17 pm »
This is great fun to watch - not at all scary. However, it does seem pretty stupid to let these guys risk their lives, when a chopper would be FAR safer, and IMHO, more logical and efficient.

And how would that work?

The tower is 1768Feet (539 Meters), so the top of the tower will be swinging pretty hard and then you wanna bring in a helicopter which are not super easy to control very accurately with the elements like wind and whatnot. One fatal mistake and you take out the tower and possibly crash the heli into another location.
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2012, 04:55:15 pm »
if there would be wind up there without any safety rigs they would learn to fly and fall very quickly
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2012, 05:00:46 pm »
When this video was first posted on youtube, the climber was asked to remove it asap, by fellow tower climbers, because he was 'free climbing' which is not permitted. It was too late however and now pops up every now and then under various names.

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2012, 05:35:13 pm »
if there would be wind up there without any safety rigs they would learn to fly and fall very quickly
Think of it this way:
Your body surface is a lot smaller than the surface of a helicopter , add into this that the helicopter isn't attached to anything (you are with your arms and legs to the tower) a sideways motion of the helicopter by a sudden gust of wind is not unlikely.
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2012, 06:44:44 pm »
 :o Man, Oh Man. I wouldn't do that for a million dollars.

Even though I have the same watch.  :P
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2012, 06:54:46 pm »
Even with 10 million dollars ...
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2012, 07:44:26 pm »
my toes curled up all through that.all that way to get your balls fried :).he could have base jumped off probably safer.
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2012, 09:31:01 pm »
Mandatory safety equipment, I would have thought: http://baserigs.com/docs/products/containers/

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2012, 09:49:01 pm »
I cant believe that if enough money was offered you would not make that climb. I have had to work at height in the past, nothing like that mind you and I found it scary but I still went back until the job was done, it is really remarkable what you can get used to.
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2012, 10:05:45 pm »
The biggest problem with comms towers is the wind. The sway in even gentle winds is incredible, even on much much smaller towers I've been on, and it really messes with your head. Much scarier than the height itself.

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2012, 11:21:03 pm »
After 25 meters up I stop worrying. If I fall it probably won't hurt for very long. Under that and I worry about hurting myself. Not that I have a death wish, but someone has to do the "high work" and it usually pays time and a half. I still have my fall harness and lots of rigging and lanyards. Sometimes you almost need to free climb. When you are focused on the task at hand where you are kind of becomes secondary in your mind. You still have the nagging thought that one mis-step and you will be hanging by a lanyard or falling. I had an idiot for a boss that tied my harness' lanyard to a temporary hand rail on the 30th floor of a high rise. Just what I needed, If I fall I will have 600 pounds of angle iron and cable following me down. The stress on your tie off lanyard is over 1000 pounds (if you fall and hit the end of your rope), and the rail comes off with under 250 pounds of force. Hmmm? That was for architectual  lighting fixtures. You just deal with it or you don't. Having "cut out" and fallen before, I will take 250 feet up over 25 feet.  As long as the tower is not going to nuke me I am OK with climbing it. I actually own my own personal protective devices. Companies let their equipment get into serious disrepair. $600 is not a bad investment to keep you from getting hurt. It also insures that the harness is adjusted for me and not the last guy who used it. I used to do free climbing on "slickrock" cliffs and formations. Monument Valley and Arches Park along with Colorado National Monument were all close by home or the home of a family member. We also used anchors and belaying lines. We were idiots at ages 12-22!
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2012, 12:17:35 am »
What gets to me isn't the height, it's the free-climbing part. I'm crazy, but not that crazy.

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(...)and the rail comes off with under 250 pounds of force. Hmmm?

WTF? That makes no sense at all! What kind of idiot designs/approves that type of "safety" equipment?
I do climbing/rappelling occasionally, the equipment I'm used to handles literally tons of force. The anchor points are usually the strongest element. I would have assumed that safety equipment for WORK would handle more than just a couple hundred pounds of force.  ???

BUT, tbh, if someone paid me a millions of dollars to do it, I would!.  8)
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2012, 12:38:03 am »
It would be safer (maybe cheaper) to rig the box so it can be taken down like a flag to the elevator level,.. or use optical cable to transmit light from a lower level.

 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2012, 05:54:39 pm »
There is a problem with this climb, the guy with the helmet cam should never disconnect his safety harness lines during the ascent, one point must always be anchored while the other point is anchored above him.  In the final scenes you see him clipping it to his chest, then reclipping it to the top of the tower.  Then he uses a locking carabiner to make a "safety" connection while he is completed without a visible safety lock, the other guy uses the proper hook.   If he's going to use a carabiner the quick attach is all he needs, locking ones are for semi-permanent mounts.

There was a recent safety expose on US TV about the number of falls and deaths from these towers, and this video shows at least why. 
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2012, 06:15:13 pm »
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There is a problem with this climb(...)

He's "free-climbing", that's why he isn't using the traditional safety procedures. Takes nice big shinny balls to do that. Every step he takes could be his last. That's a very mighty gamble with one's own life if you ask me.
 

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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2012, 06:18:35 pm »
the tower doesn't look very safe to me especially the bits he has to climb out only to climb another ladder.
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2012, 07:18:57 pm »
Yes, I agree.  For work related issues, the employer should be very concerned unless they were taught better but the climbers opted not to use it, to speed up the climb.  OSHA can sue and fine the employer, not alone civil suits by the employee or their heirs if they fall and the video proves to everyone what style of climbing he uses.  There are other videos on youtube of tower workers climbing the safer way, and by contrast its much slower paced.


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There is a problem with this climb(...)

He's "free-climbing", that's why he isn't using the traditional safety procedures. Takes nice big shinny balls to do that. Every step he takes could be his last. That's a very mighty gamble with one's own life if you ask me.
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2012, 09:31:20 pm »
My Heart is Racing after watching this.
Kept on expecting this monkey to fall.

I think I will be having nightmares about this tonight...
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Re: All This To Change A bulb
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2012, 12:21:43 am »
Stainless under ware mandatory  :o
The odd multimeter or 2 or 3 or 4...or........can't remember !.
 


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