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| PlainName:
--- Quote ---and hence should be protected in law --- End quote --- Against what? |
| RJSV:
If the delivery person was black (in U.S.), they might react negatively to being challenged by the phrase "Can I help you ?", as the feeling, often, is that a white person gets to walk there, unchallenged. But upon unpacking that phrase, especially when it's an unbiased motion detector, in total that wouldn't or shouldn't be interpreted (so fast) as it's really a simple private property incursion. Brings up a legal question regarding front doors and mailboxes. I'd expect to find out that it's legal to go to private front door, but maybe some kind of 'Loitering' time limit, as front yards are still private property. |
| MK14:
--- Quote from: PlainName on June 23, 2023, 06:02:24 pm --- --- Quote ---and hence should be protected in law --- End quote --- Against what? --- End quote --- This should explain it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press |
| PlainName:
--- Quote from: MK14 on June 23, 2023, 06:30:42 pm --- --- Quote from: PlainName on June 23, 2023, 06:02:24 pm --- --- Quote ---and hence should be protected in law --- End quote --- Against what? --- End quote --- This should explain it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press --- End quote --- That's essentially the same as the free speech thing: it prohibits the state from doing stuff. Amazon isn't a state and can do whatever they want, unfettered by this 'protection' stuff. There is actually nothing wrong with that, legally or morally, but many freedom of speech advocates conflate 'everyone and everything' with 'the state'. Personally, I think Amazon are daft. They've not gained anything from cutting off Rossmann and just ensured he's not going to be their friend or give them the benefit of the doubt. Wouldn't've cost them a thing to just ignore it. |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: PlainName on June 23, 2023, 09:41:56 pm --- --- Quote from: MK14 on June 23, 2023, 06:30:42 pm --- --- Quote from: PlainName on June 23, 2023, 06:02:24 pm --- --- Quote ---and hence should be protected in law --- End quote --- Against what? --- End quote --- This should explain it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press --- End quote --- That's essentially the same as the free speech thing: it prohibits the state from doing stuff. Amazon isn't a state and can do whatever they want, unfettered by this 'protection' stuff. There is actually nothing wrong with that, legally or morally, but many freedom of speech advocates conflate 'everyone and everything' with 'the state'. Personally, I think Amazon are daft. They've not gained anything from cutting off Rossmann and just ensured he's not going to be their friend or give them the benefit of the doubt. Wouldn't've cost them a thing to just ignore it. --- End quote --- Amazon have gained, viz scaring people into not criticising them for fear of losing access to accounts and services. Whether that is a sensible trade-off is not clear to me. Personally it just serves as a reminder why people were so ecstatic to be able to get their data processing out of the clutches of timesharing mainframe computer bureaux, and onto their own PCs. |
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