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Amazon accuses customer of racism & shuts down their smart home!
tszaboo:
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Against what?
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This should explain it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press
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That's essentially the same as the free speech thing: it prohibits the state from doing stuff. Amazon isn't a state and can do whatever they want, unfettered by this 'protection' stuff. There is actually nothing wrong with that, legally or morally, but many freedom of speech advocates conflate 'everyone and everything' with 'the state'.
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The problem is the state and private companies are intertwined. A lot of the censorship on social media has come governments threatening them with more regulation.
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I would say it's obvious that the law is never finished and it's never perfect, since it wasn't handed to us on a stone tablet.
I think there is a long overdue of extension of free speech, protecting people and free will from corporations and ideology.
RJSV:
Zero999: I read your comments, about someone harmlessly burning (gay flag), in private backyard, to kind of poke fun at the ease that 'hate speach' labels get put on people.
Now, I can't decipher this whole thread, the twists and turns would make my haed explode, on a Saturday morn. But thought of a similar dynamic, (pls see movie, 'BLAZING SADDLES',), where a black dude, simultaneously 'takes his own self as hostage', and also crying out as, 'victim', pleading out for help.
Probably several 'hate speech' violations there....or maybe even could be jailed in the EU, for even possessing such satire, or watching...
The movie lampooned just about every sensitive group.
See also: Kat Timpf's book;
'YOU CAN'T SAY THAT'
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: RJHayward on June 24, 2023, 10:59:51 pm ---...(pls see movie, 'BLAZING SADDLES',)...
Probably several 'hate speech' violations there....or maybe even could be jailed in the EU, for even possessing such satire, or watching...
The movie lampooned just about every sensitive group.
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Please don't make ignorant political points.
Apart from anything else it makes you look foolish or worse.
VK3DRB:
james_s:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 24, 2023, 05:28:33 pm ---In the UK, actor Laurence Fox, put a film of him burning some Pride flags in his back garden and has been investigated by the police for a hate crime. I see it as a stilly stunt, rather than a hate crime. I can see why it will offend some people, but I can also understand why he did it. Either way, he should have the right to do it. No one was harassed, or harmed by his actions.
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Here that would be Constitutionally protected free speech, that won't necessarily prevent one from being cancelled by the mob but they can't be prosecuted for it.
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